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The UK government is considering offering weight-loss drugs to unemployed individuals with obesity, aiming to address both the nation's rising obesity rates and unemployment. Health Secretary Wes Streeting has proposed exploring the impact of obesity treatments, such as Novo Nordisk's Wegovy and Lilly’s Mounjaro, on employment status and overall health. In a recent opinion piece, Streeting emphasized the significant burden obesity places on the National Health Service (NHS) and how unhealthy eating habits shorten life expectancy. He stated, "Our widening waistbands are also placing a significant burden on our health service."

 

Streeting believes that weight-loss treatments could be “life-changing” for many, helping them not only improve their health but also potentially return to work. He highlighted that these treatments could be a way to alleviate the £11 billion the NHS spends annually on obesity-related issues, a figure even higher than the amount spent on smoking. According to Streeting, "The long-term benefits of these drugs could be monumental in our approach to tackling obesity."

 

The announcement coincides with the UK government’s £279 million investment in pharmaceutical company Lilly, a chief rival of Novo Nordisk in the obesity drug market. This partnership will include a five-year real-world study led by Health Innovation Manchester and Lilly. The study will examine the effects of obesity and diabetes treatments on participants’ quality of life, employment status, and sick leave. It will take place in Greater Manchester, aiming to find innovative ways to deliver healthcare to those living with obesity.

 

The government's approach to using weight-loss drugs for unemployed individuals also raises ethical concerns. Last year, Novo Nordisk suggested to the Conservative government that weight-loss treatments could be targeted at people claiming state benefits, a strategy that has faced criticism. Dolly van Tulleken, an obesity specialist at the University of Cambridge, warned about the potential pitfalls of prioritizing treatment based on individuals' economic value rather than their health needs.

 

She emphasized that while treatment should be available to those who qualify, simply offering the drugs without addressing the root causes of obesity, such as access to healthy food, would not solve the problem. Van Tulleken stated, “You can treat people all you want, but if we’re putting them back into the conditions that made them sick in the first place, it’s incredibly important to stop that.”

 

The study will enroll 5,000 participants, but the scale of obesity in the UK presents a daunting challenge. With over two-thirds of the adult population classified as overweight or obese, widespread treatment would be necessary to make a lasting impact. Despite these concerns, the NHS predicts that weight-loss medications could benefit up to 300,000 people, according to James Bethell, a former health minister.

 

The government's push to explore weight-loss drugs as a means of getting people off benefits and back into the workforce is ambitious, but it also raises important questions about health equity, ethics, and the broader societal factors that contribute to obesity. If successful, this initiative could mark a new chapter in how the UK tackles both its obesity crisis and unemployment. However, the challenge will be ensuring that such treatments are accessible and part of a more comprehensive strategy that addresses the underlying causes of obesity.

 

Based on a report from Politico 2024-10-17

 

 

 

[Luuk Chaai]

"Sugary foods and drinks can have large amounts of calories, and so having too much of them can lead to weight gain and obesity. Being overweight or obese can increase the risk of diseases such as heart disease and type 2 diabetes."

 

Sarah Coe, Nutrition Scientist, British Nutrition Foundation

 

They can study all they want ..   just stop eating garbage ( sugar )

Oh ..   the big $ugar Companies will never let it happen 

[newbee2022]

27 minutes ago, Luuk Chaai said:

"Sugary foods and drinks can have large amounts of calories, and so having too much of them can lead to weight gain and obesity. Being overweight or obese can increase the risk of diseases such as heart disease and type 2 diabetes."

 

Sarah Coe, Nutrition Scientist, British Nutrition Foundation

 

They can study all they want ..   just stop eating garbage ( sugar )

Oh ..   the big $ugar Companies will never let it happen 

😂 You blame the sugar industries? Right so. But don't forget the govt deal with Lilly; only 279.000.000 donation, sorry, I mean investment 😂

[Snackbar]

Just a little prick 

[JonnyF]

Just reduce unemployment benefits. Hunger will be an excellent motivation for them to put down the pizza and go get a job. Once working, the weight will drop off them and also improve their mental health. Plus with all the extra people in the workforce that will remove the excuse for allowing thousands of immigrants to come into the country to fill vacancies. Use the money saved on unemployment benefits to restore the winter fuel allowance. Win win.

 

It's got to be better than leaving them on the couch munching obesity pills while immigrants come in to do the jobs they are too lazy to do and pensioners freeze to death on 13,000 pounds a year. 

 

 

[James105]

3 hours ago, Social Media said:

She emphasized that while treatment should be available to those who qualify, simply offering the drugs without addressing the root causes of obesity, such as access to healthy food

 

Are the fatties unable to access healthy food?  Why is this?  Are the fruit and vegetable aisles in supermarkets too narrow for them to fit in or something?  

 

Nice to see Labour finding a use for the unemployed though by using them as human guinea pigs for experimental drugs.

[daveAustin]

33 minutes ago, James105 said:

 

Are the fatties unable to access healthy food?  Why is this?  Are the fruit and vegetable aisles in supermarkets too narrow for them to fit in or something?  

 

Nice to see Labour finding a use for the unemployed though by using them as human guinea pigs for experimental drugs.

Indeed. Healthy foods are very accessible, and cheap, in the UK. It’s that some of these people CHOOSE NOT to eat it in favour of snacks and crap. See it all the time when home, young obese bumbling around in paid-for-by-the-people buggies. Thousands of £ a pop. Some genuinely have medical issues, yes, but many are just lazy individuals leeching off society. They should be coerced into treatments such as this and made to actively look for work or benefits reduced. 

Something like 80-90% of the council tax pie is dished out on welfare in my town now, and people wonder why (Covid, immigrant cost aside) the roads cannot be fixed. There’s no effing money! Future of Britain is very bleak as those in power do not have the stones to tackle the real issues. Instead they put people away for saying things. 

[john donson]

great idea, investment right... get so fat you claim you cannot work, for life...

[Chomper Higgot]

Photos of members denigrating people for being overweight might give an insight into  their motivation for doing so.

 

[JonnyF]

27 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Photos of members denigrating people for being overweight might give an insight into  their motivation for doing so.

 

 

I think there are dedicated forums if you need to see photos of members, Chomps. 

[klauskunkel]

7 hours ago, Social Media said:

The UK government is considering offering weight-loss drugs to unemployed individuals with obesity, aiming to address both the nation's rising obesity rates and unemployment.

Promoting laziness to lazy people, that's a winner for both Pharma and Sugar. Buy shares now.

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The thing is, from a financial point of view. supporting the use of these medications can make a lot of sense. Depending on what kind of deal the government can negotiate, the rate of return could well outpace even what these medications earn for their manufacturers.

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5 hours ago, James105 said:

 

Are the fatties unable to access healthy food?  Why is this?  Are the fruit and vegetable aisles in supermarkets too narrow for them to fit in or something?  

 

Nice to see Labour finding a use for the unemployed though by using them as human guinea pigs for experimental drugs.

I guess this is some kind of Pavlovian response you acquired form the Covid controversy. These drugs were recently authorized for use with a prescription, but they are not experimental. Unlike Covid vaccines, the protocols weren't accelerated.

[BusyB]

2 hours ago, placeholder said:

The thing is, from a financial point of view. supporting the use of these medications can make a lot of sense. Depending on what kind of deal the government can negotiate, the rate of return could well outpace even what these medications earn for their manufacturers.

 

Savings would probably also far outweigh the costs of treating long term obesity and its related ailments and diseases.

[James105]

15 minutes ago, BusyB said:

 

Savings would probably also far outweigh the costs of treating long term obesity and its related ailments and diseases.

 

Unless these drugs also changes the desire of the fat person to eat junk food and cakes and motivates them to do some exercise then they will be on these drugs for life since as soon as they stop taking these drugs they are back to square one.   This is good for the pharmaceutical company and the MPs taking the kickbacks, but I don't really see how this is good for the taxpayer.   

 

A better and cheaper option (since Labour have now opened the can of worms linking obesity to unemployment benefits) would be monthly weigh-ins for those on benefits and only those who demonstrate weight loss continue to get the full amount when not in work,  and those who do not get reduced benefits and the savings of which go directly to the NHS.   So either they lose weight or get a job.  Win for the taxpayer, win for the NHS, win for the individual.   

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28 minutes ago, James105 said:

 

Unless these drugs also changes the desire of the fat person to eat junk food and cakes and motivates them to do some exercise then they will be on these drugs for life since as soon as they stop taking these drugs they are back to square one.   This is good for the pharmaceutical company and the MPs taking the kickbacks, but I don't really see how this is good for the taxpayer.   

 

A better and cheaper option (since Labour have now opened the can of worms linking obesity to unemployment benefits) would be monthly weigh-ins for those on benefits and only those who demonstrate weight loss continue to get the full amount when not in work,  and those who do not get reduced benefits and the savings of which go directly to the NHS.   So either they lose weight or get a job.  Win for the taxpayer, win for the NHS, win for the individual.   

And, as I pointed out, it depends on what price the govt. can negotiate.  On the one hand there's the cost of the medication. On the other hand there's the savings realized from drastically reducing type 2 diabetes, coronary artery disease, cancers etc. Of course, on the negative side. there are also side effects.

Also,ultimately, those medications will become generic. At which point they would definitely be a lot cheaper. 

[Chomper Higgot]

1 hour ago, James105 said:

Unless these drugs also changes the desire of the fat person to eat junk food and cakes and motivates them to do some exercise then they will be on these drugs for life since as soon as they stop taking these drugs they are back to square one. 

Since you introduced ‘the motivation to eat junk food’ and  ‘exercise’, do you want to tell us what you know about what motivates people to eat junk food?

 

How about telling us what you know about exercise and weight loss?

 

I’m intrigued to hear what it is you think you know about these things.

 

[James105]

2 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Since you introduced ‘the motivation to eat junk food’ and  ‘exercise’, do you want to tell us what you know about what motivates people to eat junk food?

 

How about telling us what you know about exercise and weight loss?

 

I’m intrigued to hear what it is you think you know about these things.

 

 

Eating less + doing more exercise = weight loss!   No side effects either unlike there is with Labours plan to inject fatties with taxpayer funded medication.    You are welcome.   

[Chomper Higgot]

8 minutes ago, James105 said:

 

Eating less + doing more exercise = weight loss!   No side effects either unlike there is with Labours plan to inject fatties with taxpayer funded medication.    You are welcome.   

It’s not quite as simple as eating less, what is eaten has more impact.

 

Exercise has many benefits, but achieve weight loss through exercise is not as easy as most people assume.

 

I recommend you read up on the impact of glycemic index on insulin resistance and the constrained energy model.

 

And how about that ‘motivation’ thing, what do suppose motivated people to eat foods that are injurious to their health?

 

 

 

Edited 2 hours ago by Chomper Higgot

[john donson]

stop benefits in time, but then they will go to welfare...

 

lazy generation always find an excuse

 

know someone, friend of mom, who managed to be unemployed most of them lives, but now get more retirement after a covered up suicide to 'accidental' drowning and getting widow pension on top...