A vote for Trump is a vote for Putin / Orban / Kim Jong Un

[Yellowtail]

3 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Americans need Trump to face trials for his wvheelbarrel full of indictments.

More bookkeeping "felonies"?

 

Hey, how's Fanni doing? 

[save the frogs]

It's been painful to have to sift through all the tedious political threads on AN the past few months.

 

He's a felon, he's a blah blah blah. 

 

Here's finally an important real ISSUE that affects people's lives -- not a character assasination, regarding Trump. 

 

 

[Jingthing]

1 minute ago, save the frogs said:

It's been painful to have to sift through all the tedious political threads on AN the past few months.

 

He's a felon, he's a blah blah blah. 

 

Here's finally an important real ISSUE that affects people's lives -- not a character assasination, regarding Trump. 

 

 

Off topic. Suggest you open in home country forum.

[Lacessit]

1 hour ago, Yellowtail said:

Dictators can be negotiated with, but only from a position of strength. 

 

Stalin did okay against Hitler.

Zelensky will be negotiating from a position of strength if Harris wins. If Trump does, he won't.

 

 

[Jingthing]

3 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Zelensky will be negotiating from a position of strength if Harris wins. If Trump does, he won't.

 

 

Well it remains to be seen if Harris will be less prone to cave to Putin's bluffing than Biden as far as lifing insane restrictions on use of weapons within Russia on military targets.

She'll be at least as supportive as Biden but there is also congress to deal with. Remember maga fascist speaker Johnson ordered by Trump blocked all aid for eight flippin' months -- blood on their hands!

But now Zelinsky has decided to hard ball understanding that Trump might win and cut him off entirely -- NATO or nukes for Ukraine. NATO much better of course.

Edited October 20 by Jingthing

[frank83628]

1 hour ago, Lacessit said:

Please tell me when negotiating with dictators has ever worked out well for the other party.

 

You might as well try negotiating with a crocodile to only chew off one leg.

so, thats a no, then,

i will not negotiate peace regardless what is on the table because i am i a propagandised mainstream media sheep, i dont bother to verify any information because the bbc is my bible

[frank83628]

1 hour ago, Lacessit said:

Please tell me when negotiating with dictators has ever worked out well for the other party.

 

You might as well try negotiating with a crocodile to only chew off one leg.

so who is a dictator, Biden, obama? , you didnt bother to even try...

[spidermike007]

Such an incredible hypocrite. Everything Trump says and does is fakenand insincere. 

 

An internal whistleblower complaint at Trump Media calls for CEO Devin Nunes to be fired, alleging he has “severely” mismanaged the company and opened it to “substantial risk of legal action” from regulators, according to a copy reviewed by ProPublica.

 

The letter also says that former President Donald Trump’s company is hiring “America Last” — alleging that Nunes imposed a directive to hire only foreign contractors at the expense of “American workers who are deeply committed to our mission.”

“This approach not only contradicts the America First principles we stand for but also raises concerns about the quality, dedication, and alignment of our workforce with our core values,” the letter says.

 

Trump’s promise to “stop outsourcing” and “punish” companies that send jobs abroad has been a centerpiece of his political career, including his current campaign for president.

 

https://www.propublica.org/article/trump-media-whistleblower-complaint-devin-nunes

 

[Yellowtail]

9 hours ago, Lacessit said:

Zelensky will be negotiating from a position of strength if Harris wins. If Trump does, he won't.

 

 

What about Biden, weak or strong? 

[Yellowtail]

6 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Such an incredible hypocrite. Everything Trump says and does is fakenand insincere. 

 

An internal whistleblower complaint at Trump Media calls for CEO Devin Nunes to be fired, alleging he has “severely” mismanaged the company and opened it to “substantial risk of legal action” from regulators, according to a copy reviewed by ProPublica.

 

The letter also says that former President Donald Trump’s company is hiring “America Last” — alleging that Nunes imposed a directive to hire only foreign contractors at the expense of “American workers who are deeply committed to our mission.”

“This approach not only contradicts the America First principles we stand for but also raises concerns about the quality, dedication, and alignment of our workforce with our core values,” the letter says.

 

Trump’s promise to “stop outsourcing” and “punish” companies that send jobs abroad has been a centerpiece of his political career, including his current campaign for president.

 

https://www.propublica.org/article/trump-media-whistleblower-complaint-devin-nunes

 

Do you think Harris is sincere when she says she'll close the border after wanting to keep it open for thirty years? 

 

Do you think Harris is a hypocrite for pretending to "believe and support women" while saying nothing about her POC husband knocking up the nanny and (allegedly) beating up an ex-girlfriend? 

 

How about Harris effectively lying when she claimed she and stolen valor Walz would "follow federal law" when they both in fact worked to change the laws?

 

 

[pedro01]

On 10/18/2024 at 5:36 PM, Inderpland said:

Yet here you are, arguing.😂

 

Informing

[Lacessit]

23 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Do you think Harris is sincere when she says she'll close the border after wanting to keep it open for thirty years? 

 

Do you think Harris is a hypocrite for pretending to "believe and support women" while saying nothing about her POC husband knocking up the nanny and (allegedly) beating up an ex-girlfriend? 

 

How about Harris effectively lying when she claimed she and stolen valor Walz would "follow federal law" when they both in fact worked to change the laws?

 

 

 

[Danderman123]

12 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

Dictators can be negotiated with, but only from a position of strength. 

 

Stalin did okay against Hitler.

You seem ignorant of history.

 

Tell us how Hitler honored the Molotov-Ribbentrop treaty.

[Lacessit]

13 hours ago, save the frogs said:

It's been painful to have to sift through all the tedious political threads on AN the past few months.

 

He's a felon, he's a blah blah blah. 

 

Here's finally an important real ISSUE that affects people's lives -- not a character assasination, regarding Trump. 

 

 

Given Trump is a gold medalist in lying, why would you assume he will do as he says?

 

 

[ericbj]

On 10/20/2024 at 7:04 AM, Lacessit said:

You stated before you were not a Russian stooge. Your second post proves you are. Bye bye, tovarisch.

 

Not at all clear to me that I spout Russian propaganda.  But then one is not always objective in judging oneself.

 

However quite a few contributors to this discussion seem to have closed minds that deal in often meaningless clichés, such as this comment:
"Garbage pro autocracy axis propaganda source"
to dismiss the well-researched article I linked to here
https://thegrayzone.com/2021/01/28/alexei-navalny-myth-wests-russian-opposition-figure/

 

Off the immediate subject but relevant to the discussion:

 

[Yellowtail]

On 10/21/2024 at 10:22 AM, Danderman123 said:

You seem ignorant of history.

 

Tell us how Hitler honored the Molotov-Ribbentrop treaty.

You're being dishonest again. I never said Hitler honored the Molotov-Ribbentrop treaty.

 

You're such a phony

[Danderman123]

6 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

You're being dishonest again. I never said Hitler honored the Molotov-Ribbentrop treaty.

 

You're such a phony

 

On 10/20/2024 at 10:21 PM, Yellowtail said:

Dictators can be negotiated with, but only from a position of strength. 

 

Stalin did okay against Hitler.

Are you drunk?

[Yellowtail]

5 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

 

Are you drunk?

Again, where did I say that Hitler honored the Molotov-Ribbentrop treaty? 

 

 

 

[Danderman123]

1 minute ago, Yellowtail said:

Again, where did I say that Hitler honored the Molotov-Ribbentrop treaty? 

 

 

 

Tell you what, we'll take this up later. Nobody cares.

[Yellowtail]

1 minute ago, Danderman123 said:

Tell you what, we'll take this up later. Nobody cares.

It doesn't bother you, but I care when you lie about me and or what I what I say. 

 

You guys in the left will say anything. 

[Danderman123]

1 minute ago, Yellowtail said:

It doesn't bother you, but I care when you lie about me and or what I what I say. 

 

You guys in the left will say anything. 

Nobody cares what you say.

 

I posted the transcript, anyone can read it and understand you are trolling.

 

The transcript speaks for itself.

[Yellowtail]

9 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

Nobody cares what you say.

Nah nah nah! . 

9 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

 

I posted the transcript, anyone can read it and understand you are trolling.

 

The transcript speaks for itself.

 

The "transcript" you posted does not say anything about the Molotov-Ribbentrop treaty. You are not being truthful. 

 

Again, I know it doesn't bother you, but I care when you lie about me and or what I what I say. 

 

You should apologize, but you won't, because you are dishonest, and you, like most guys on the left will say anything with regard to the truth. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Mad Mustang]

Ha ha ha. A vote for the lying lefty cackling hag is a vote for the demise of the USA. But then again when I lived in LA for 3 years, there seemed to be a great shortage of common sense. Regardless of who gets in it seems the good ol USofA ain’t so GOOD anymore. End of empire time perhaps

[Danderman123]

2 hours ago, Mad Mustang said:

Ha ha ha. A vote for the lying lefty cackling hag is a vote for the demise of the USA. But then again when I lived in LA for 3 years, there seemed to be a great shortage of common sense. Regardless of who gets in it seems the good ol USofA ain’t so GOOD anymore. End of empire time perhaps

Unlike the Russian empire, which is doing just fine, right?

[Jingthing]

3 hours ago, Mad Mustang said:

Ha ha ha. A vote for the lying lefty cackling hag is a vote for the demise of the USA. But then again when I lived in LA for 3 years, there seemed to be a great shortage of common sense. Regardless of who gets in it seems the good ol USofA ain’t so GOOD anymore. End of empire time perhaps

Best economy in the world.

[Jingthing]

4 hours ago, ericbj said:

 

Not at all clear to me that I spout Russian propaganda.  But then one is not always objective in judging oneself.

 

However quite a few contributors to this discussion seem to have closed minds that deal in often meaningless clichés, such as this comment:
"Garbage pro autocracy axis propaganda source"
to dismiss the well-researched article I linked to here
https://thegrayzone.com/2021/01/28/alexei-navalny-myth-wests-russian-opposition-figure/

 

Off the immediate subject but relevant to the discussion:

 

Check the articles on greyzone.

It's exactly as I described.

 

Mattias Desmet a crackpot pro Trumo conspiracy theiry peddling loon darling of vile American Putin lovera Tucker Carlson and the notorious Alex Jones.

Edited October 22 by Jingthing

[ericbj]

2 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Check the articles on greyzone.

It's exactly as I described.

 

Mattias Desmet a crackpot pro Trumo conspiracy theiry peddling loon darling of vile American Putin lovera Tucker Carlson and the notorious Alex Jones.

 

I have read the article to which I refer.  Anyone else who wishes can do the same.

 

The rest of what you write displays a hyper-emotional attitude rather than a critique of the opinions put forward.

[Jingthing]

55 minutes ago, ericbj said:

 

I have read the article to which I refer.  Anyone else who wishes can do the same.

 

The rest of what you write displays a hyper-emotional attitude rather than a critique of the opinions put forward.

Not what I said.

I had a look at the topics of the list of articles on that garbage source. It was super easy to determine it was a propaganda site as described.

[ericbj]

15 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Not what I said.

I had a look at the topics of the list of articles on that garbage source. It was super easy to determine it was a propaganda site as described.

 

To clarify the matter, you are not commenting on the article because you have not read it.

 

Instead you are commenting on a web-site which re-posted it from the original source.

[Jingthing]

57 minutes ago, ericbj said:

 

To clarify the matter, you are not commenting on the article because you have not read it.

 

Instead you are commenting on a web-site which re-posted it from the original source.

The website only posts articles that further its agenda.

I guess according to you we should take articles from Russia Today seriously.

Edited October 23 by Jingthing