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Thailand’s smog showdown: Clearing the air with a bold 30% cut


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What is required is more cops on the roads, not only on Bkk roads (are there any?) to reduce pollution and whilst you're at it, ensure all motorbike riders are wearing helmets.

 

Will never happen in our lifetime.

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The pictures says it all.. too many cars in a overloaded city, many out of date and cause a lot of pollution. Start with driving new EV taxies, busses and forbid parts of the centre forbidden for old cars as in many European cities already is...But talking and doing nothing will never solve this problem

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59 minutes ago, webfact said:

With a sharp eye on cutting traffic snarls, the PCD’s playbook includes trimming public bus fares, putting vehicles under the microscope, and rolling out work-from-home days in bustling urban hubs.

 

Turning up the heat on fire prevention, the department has drawn a risk map for 14 forest complexes across the northern and northeastern landscapes, with new rules demanding farmers log in with government officials before sparking any flames, said Preeyaporn.

 

 

So this is the key section, the rest is out and out waffle.....I hope and pray there is a lot more being done, but for the sake of brevity it just hasn't been covered here.....so we have.....

 

Cutting traffic snarls .......(that will help in Isaan??).....how?.....ain't going to happen

 

A risk map......? Something to look at whilst they ignore the satellite images showing Thailand 'on fire'.

 

Farmers to call before burning......? They won't, they'll just burn....they have no option.

 

 

....and these are going to cut the AQI by 30%.

 

People usually say I don't know whether to laugh or cry......there's no doubt in my mind.....cry.

 

 

 

 

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31 minutes ago, ikke1959 said:

The pictures says it all.. too many cars in a overloaded city, many out of date and cause a lot of pollution. Start with driving new EV taxies, busses and forbid parts of the centre forbidden for old cars as in many European cities already is...But talking and doing nothing will never solve this problem

getting people out of their cars and onto transit with reduced fares is a good start.

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Good luck with that.  I wish they could just keep it at last year's level.  Seems to have gotten worse every year since I've been here.  The numbers don't lie.

 

First 10 ish years here, I really didn't notice it.  Then the 2nd house (Udon Thani), having a 2nd floor, and view of hills in the distance showed me the light.

 

Rainy season, crystal clear, and can see 4 distinct ridges.  Smog season, you wouldn't even know they are there. 

 

Same here now, PKK, and some days, you wouldn't know the hills to the west exist, and only 10 kms away.  Gotten so I can almost tell what the AQI # is, simply by looking toward the headlands of the bay, from back veranda at present house.   They are only 5 kms away.   Clear or blurry ... hmm, better run the air purifiers :coffee1:

 

My only negative about TH ... pollution

 

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Yessir, gonna cut that pollution - I have my own 2.5 micron  meter - this morning at 4 AM in Prawet District of  Bangkok, the reading ws 56 - about 20 points above the WHO recommendation of health air.  I  see more days in BKK polluted than I did while living in CM.  Even if they could stop the polluters here in Thailand, all the surrounding countries burn everything too and even though they are mostly in the same ASEAN group, they have never been able to get any otber country to stop their  pollution either.  Good luck. Sure hope it succeeds and that Thailand can convince their own citizens to stop polluting and then maybe neighbors will heed the call too.

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3 hours ago, webfact said:

Pollution Control Department (PCD) is gearing up for a 2024 blitz on air pollution, aiming to slash hotspots by a daring 30%

 My laugh for the day!

Wait until the commencement of burning seasons in neighbouring Burma, Laos, Cambodia and faraway Indonesia.

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24 minutes ago, CMHomeboy78 said:

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This is where people get it a bit wrong. It ain't all about the burning. Sure burning adds fuel to the fire so to speak and makes things a whole lot worse but this is BKK and it's surrounds today without the annual burning season. 

https://aqicn.org/station/@421450/#/z/10

 

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6 hours ago, UWEB said:

Just stop the Farmers burning their Fields and Waste. Sorted.

Add to that locals burning rubbish, tyre shops burning waste after dark, the wife's cooking!

I'm just glad I live away from a large City.

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10 hours ago, KhunLA said:

First 10 ish years here, I really didn't notice it.  Then the 2nd house (Udon Thani), having a 2nd floor, and view of hills in the distance showed me the light.

 

Please do not venture up to your 2nd floor during the months beginning in November through to middle of July.

 

Problem solved.

 

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All the vow's and waïs will not help....as long as people continue burning their garbage or crops all over, nothing will change. Places like Hua Hin (hin lek fai area) have become worse with burning stench all over every third day. And of course nobody gives a hoot. All the more reason here not to stay in Thailand for more then 60 to 90 days maximum (for those who can).

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If the government was truly serious about improving air quality they would have programs encouraging farmers to switch to more progressive crops other than rice and sugar which require massive burning and they would go after the sugar refiners and force them to prove that they've acquired their product from farmers that don't burn. Sugar and rice for fine in the 19th century, they don't really work in today's world.

 

There is a very simple solution to this problem. If the authorities were interested in solutions. The burning has to stop. There are alternatives, to this 19th century technique of burning after the sugar cane harvest. Either the government starts to encourage farmers to switch to more environmentally friendly crops, or they start to penalize farmers for burning. This heinous burning, is leading to a tremendous degree of environmental degradation, and alot of lung disease. So here is what I propose-

 

1. Fine the farmers 5,000 baht for a first offense, and give them a stern warning, that burning is now prohibited, and the second fine will be very harsh.

2. For a second offense, fine the farmer 100,000 baht, and warn them that if the burning continues, their land will be confiscated.

3. On the 3rd offense, confiscate their land. Period. No questions. No legal proceeding or appeals on the part of the farmers. Allow others to come in and purchase the land at a fair price, with the caveat that sugar and rice are prohibited as a crop to be grown on that land.

 

The news would travel faster than the toxic smoke, and farmers would change their ways overnight, and move into the 21st century.

 

Progressive reform on burning - green harvesting

https://youtu.be/thXstqQcdQ4?si=yExPfXaED66a4vyP

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