Intermittent fasting

[georgegeorgia]

I watched recently a Pattaya YouTuber who said his he stated slim

 

Intermittent fasting!

I have now taken his advice and not eaten for 12 hours ,I did feel hungry!

Very hungry 

But ..it seems to have waned.

 

I exercise everyday sometimes intense,and still my weight was the same 

Exercise doesn't help weight loss if your still eating a lot and I was drinking 3 protein shakes a day with eggs 

My weight remained the same 

 

Now I need tips in fasting .

Number 1 , coffee ,do J need to drink only black coffee not this 3 in 1 

 

What is the most hours you personally fast for ?

 

Can you eat immediately after fasting for say 24 hours? 

 

 

[still kicking]

7 minutes ago, georgegeorgia said:

I watched recently a Pattaya YouTuber who said his he stated slim

 

Intermittent fasting!

I have now taken his advice and not eaten for 12 hours ,I did feel hungry!

Very hungry 

But ..it seems to have waned.

 

I exercise everyday sometimes intense,and still my weight was the same 

Exercise doesn't help weight loss if your still eating a lot and I was drinking 3 protein shakes a day with eggs 

My weight remained the same 

 

Now I need tips in fasting .

Number 1 , coffee ,do J need to drink only black coffee not this 3 in 1 

 

What is the most hours you personally fast for ?

 

Can you eat immediately after fasting for say 24 hours? 

 

 

Run out of topics ?

[Ralf001]

2 hours ago, georgegeorgia said:

 

 

Can you eat immediately after fasting for say 24 hours? 

 

 

No, you should wait 24hrs.

[CharlieH]

Are you trying to lose weight ?

What liquid are you using in those shakes ?

 

The 3 in1 depends how many you're drinking, ?

 

Ultimately its all about calories in against calories out.

[fredwiggy]

Are you drinking those protein shakes along with other meals? That might be too many calories, as CharlieH suggested. You can use water and protein mix, or low sugar soymilk. Don't use fruit juice. As far as the coffee, don't use 3 in 1. Sugar and creamer extra calories, empty, you don't need. If you order coffee out, get black and ask for a tad of soymilk and bring Splenda, Stevia or Equal with you to add for sweetener., as most Thai coffee shops won't carry these, besides a few having Equal.  This is what I do when out and about. Ice coffee, 2 Splenda, Stevia or Equal, and a tad of soymilk, keeping the calories to almost none.

[Olmate]

Outa kanga GG, stiff titties! Get a real job.Bludging ure life away tho seems to suit your aimless presence here and home in Oz! 

[save the frogs]

6 hours ago, georgegeorgia said:

What is the most hours you personally fast for ?

you will lost more weight the longer your fasting windows are.

 

but how much of it is fat and how much is muscle loss? 

 

hard to say what the ideal fasting window is. don't forget to keep your protein levels high.

and how much protein should we have in one meal? 

controversial, not sure I have found the answers yet. 

 

[pgrahmm]

I eat 2 meals a day....Breakfast between 830 & 10ish....Then no later than 2pm.....Over the last 2 years I have gone from 117k (194cm) to my target of 90k.....It took about 4-6 months to start seeing results..... Breakfast is usually a good sized meal....

Sometimes I am not hungry in the afternoon so forgo that meal.....

There's really no hunger pangs & I eat what I want....

My wife does a good job of creating a healthy, balanced diet plan....

Initially, there were some hunger pangs, but my body adjusted to the new routine....

 

Once upon a time I tried fasting on Sundays, but found that wasn't really doing anything for me ....

Years of sports wear and tear on my knees helped prompt the weight loss campaign....

Note:

I occasionally will have an evening snack if conjured up by a daughter, but not often....

If any snacking is to be had, it's before the 2pm "break".....

While I was never fat, I am quicker & more agile.....The walking gait/motion seems smoother....

Edited October 23 by pgrahmm

[georgegeorgia]

55 minutes ago, Olmate said:

Outa kanga GG, stiff titties! Get a real job.Bludging ure life away tho seems to suit your aimless presence here and home in Oz! 

Your paying for it as a Australian taxpayer 

Thankyou for your contribution to my holiday budget 

 

 

 

 

Edited October 23 by georgegeorgia

[Olmate]

2 hours ago, georgegeorgia said:

Your paying for it as a Australian taxpayer 

Thankyou for your contribution to my holiday budget 

 

 

 

 

Dont pay tax, get a weeklyslab of play money, nicelife here, sucking the sweet bits now! thanks bucko😂

[BigStar]

12 hours ago, georgegeorgia said:

I exercise everyday sometimes intense

 

How does that work with your Zimmer frame? Could even be viral video to be made here. Become a youtube influencer, retire the mop & bucket.

 

12 hours ago, georgegeorgia said:

Now I need tips in fasting .

 

Useless. Anyway, you'll find expertise here:

 

https://reddit.com/r/intermittentfasting/

https://thefastdiet.co.uk/forums/

 

[Banana7]

First, stop eating anything and everything that contains sugar, including sweet fruit. Do not eat anything fried in seed oils. Acceptable cooking oils are cold extracted extra virgin olive oil, avocado oil, butter and lard. Do not eat processed foods/snacks or anything containing wheat or starch, like pasta, potatoes and baked goods. Confine your eating window to 4 hours per day or less. Search youtube.com, lots of good advice from Dr. Ekberg and others on one meal a day (OMAD), intermittent fasting and extended water fasting. Doing the preceding, I lost 32 lbs, waist reduced from 36 to 31 inches in 6 months.

[rocketboy2]

Op, should fast for one year minimum,

[KhunLA]

16 hours ago, save the frogs said:

you will lost more weight the longer your fasting windows are.

 

but how much of it is fat and how much is muscle loss? 

 

hard to say what the ideal fasting window is. don't forget to keep your protein levels high.

and how much protein should we have in one meal? 

controversial, not sure I have found the answers yet. 

 

Most recommend 1.6gr per 1gr body weight.  Better 2gr per 1gr body weight.

 

2 X 80 = 160gr protein daily for me.  Here's a ball park idea of gr per 100g:

 

Not all charts agree. Thiis one agrees with another I saw; beef 260 per kg

 

Edited October 23 by KhunLA

[Rhys]

There are Many good program on IF... just find the right program.. start with 16:8... which means you have only a 8 hour eating period.. monitor the appropriate foods..

 

All the best..

[still kicking]

1 hour ago, rocketboy2 said:

Op, should fast for one year minimum,

I guess he can't afford to buy food anyway traveling to Pats from Sydney every few months 

[Dewardes]

For coffee, black is definitely the way to go if you want to keep it strict. Those 3-in-1 mixes have added sugar and calories. As for fasting, a lot of people do well with 16 to 18 hours. After it’s best to start with something light to ease your stomach back into it. 

[georgegeorgia]

13 hours ago, Olmate said:

Dont pay tax, get a weeklyslab of play money, nicelife here, sucking the sweet bits now! thanks bucko😂

Good on you for receiving the aged pension ,must be proud 

[rocketboy2]

1 hour ago, still kicking said:

I guess he can't afford to buy food anyway traveling to Pats from Sydney every few months 

 

I think  Walter Mitty, would be so proud of the Op.

[rocketboy2]

1 hour ago, Dewardes said:

For coffee, black is definitely the way to go if you want to keep it strict. Those 3-in-1 mixes have added sugar and calories. As for fasting, a lot of people do well with 16 to 18 hours. After it’s best to start with something light to ease your stomach back into it. 

 

Stop being pussies,

Fast for 24 hours, if your serious, ( but take in water only )

[save the frogs]

6 hours ago, KhunLA said:

Most recommend 1.6gr per 1gr body weight.  Better 2gr per 1gr body weight.

 

 

I think 1 gram per pound of body weight. 

If you weigh 150 lbs, you may need around 150g of protein.

 

But my main point is you are not getting protein when you are fasting. 

So you potentially lose muscle mass, not only fat. 

 

[Presnock]

On 10/23/2024 at 6:50 AM, fredwiggy said:

Are you drinking those protein shakes along with other meals? That might be too many calories, as CharlieH suggested. You can use water and protein mix, or low sugar soymilk. Don't use fruit juice. As far as the coffee, don't use 3 in 1. Sugar and creamer extra calories, empty, you don't need. If you order coffee out, get black and ask for a tad of soymilk and bring Splenda, Stevia or Equal with you to add for sweetener., as most Thai coffee shops won't carry these, besides a few having Equal.  This is what I do when out and about. Ice coffee, 2 Splenda, Stevia or Equal, and a tad of soymilk, keeping the calories to almost none.

artificial sweetners recently have researchers questioning the health benefits of ingesting these fake sugars.  I liken this to the artificial cooking oils (SEED oils) which have been used for over a hundred years and now the researchers have tested, studied and proven that seed oils are bad for one's health.  The same is true to artificial anyfoods, they are just that "fake".  But, trying to get people to change lifestyles and eating habits has always been difficult as the only one penalized is that person risking their own health and many times it takes years for the results to become obvious.  Look at the US stats today almost half of the citizens are FAT, Obese, 40+ percent are diabetics.  At least with natural foods, there are no side effects, unless eating non-organic which have been sprayed with anti-pest materials.  Just like plastic-bptt;ed  water - now we also know from tests that anyone drinking this water is also ingesting micro-plastics which could affect one's health also.  Read any label of packaged foods - too much fake ingredients! foreign language named ingredients - why aren't the  labels telling us exactly what that fake stuff is.  The bottom line of course - from this non-expert is "it is your body and your health!"  Enjoy whatever YOU want!

[Olmate]

6 hours ago, georgegeorgia said:

Good on you for receiving the aged pension ,must be proud 

Nice sentiment there Gee Whiz, I,m thinking youve been hacked? Ironically the real you will be OAP qualified just in time to drop dead, fall off the perch and go to Buddha. I think the Wayward Chapel does paupers sendoffs, no Buddha input tho.😭

[Ralf001]

6 hours ago, rocketboy2 said:

 

Stop being pussies,

Fast for 24 hours, if your serious, ( but take in water only )

 

Its not hard to do, I eat 1 meal a day... except weekends sometime will have a blowout due to entertaining guests.

[msbkk]

1 hour ago, save the frogs said:

 

I think 1 gram per pound of body weight. 

If you weigh 150 lbs, you may need around 150g of protein.

 

But my main point is you are not getting protein when you are fasting. 

So you potentially lose muscle mass, not only fat. 

 

1 gr. protein per pound bodyweight is recommended for athletes and bodybuilders only. For others it is usually 1 gr protein per Kilo.

[fredwiggy]

1 hour ago, Presnock said:

artificial sweetners recently have researchers questioning the health benefits of ingesting these fake sugars.  I liken this to the artificial cooking oils (SEED oils) which have been used for over a hundred years and now the researchers have tested, studied and proven that seed oils are bad for one's health.  The same is true to artificial anyfoods, they are just that "fake".  But, trying to get people to change lifestyles and eating habits has always been difficult as the only one penalized is that person risking their own health and many times it takes years for the results to become obvious.  Look at the US stats today almost half of the citizens are FAT, Obese, 40+ percent are diabetics.  At least with natural foods, there are no side effects, unless eating non-organic which have been sprayed with anti-pest materials.  Just like plastic-bptt;ed  water - now we also know from tests that anyone drinking this water is also ingesting micro-plastics which could affect one's health also.  Read any label of packaged foods - too much fake ingredients! foreign language named ingredients - why aren't the  labels telling us exactly what that fake stuff is.  The bottom line of course - from this non-expert is "it is your body and your health!"  Enjoy whatever YOU want!

I agree that the artificial sweeteners might not be so healthy. I have been using them for many years, but have been trying to find better substitutes, those from more natural sources. Stevia seems to be okay, at least for now, and I've been slowly switching over to it as I've heard more about Splenda and Equal. The rest of my diet has been very clean for the last 50 years, and the only trouble I've really had has been stomach related when I had H Pylori, presumably from bad water here. Living in Texas, I rarely had anything health wise wrong. Just after I moved here. I think also meat has been the culprit here, as it's always left out all day on trays, which isn't that good. back home they shrink wrap as soon as It's cut and it's kept in coolers.

[NickyLouie]

1 minute ago, fredwiggy said:

I agree that the artificial sweeteners might not be so healthy. I have been using them for many years, but have been trying to find better substitutes, those from more natural sources. Stevia seems to be okay, at least for now, and I've been slowly switching over to it as I've heard more about Splenda and Equal. The rest of my diet has been very clean for the last 50 years, and the only trouble I've really had has been stomach related when I had H Pylori, presumably from bad water here. Living in Texas, I rarely had anything health wise wrong. Just after I moved here. I think also meat has been the culprit here, as it's always left out all day on trays, which isn't that good. back home they shrink wrap as soon as It's cut and it's kept in coolers.

 

Here is the secret , you don't need to add sweeteners to food.

 

Also red meat should be almost eliminated from your diet along with dairy.

 

 

 

[Celsius]

Nothing more lolz than watching some old guys who moved to Pattaya suddenly start to go to the gym and pretend to eat healthy while drowning in alcohol. 

 

Fasting, lol......

 

Intermittent masterbathing is what I do and is a lot more effective

[shdmn]

Bottom line is it's just another way of reducing caloric intake that seems to be easier for some people compared to just eating less throughout the day.

 

Seems to me it's just another diet fad imo.  If you continue doing it your metabolism slows down so you can't do it too often otherwise you won't get as much benefit.

Edited October 24 by shdmn

[fredwiggy]

1 minute ago, NickyLouie said:

 

Here is the secret , you don't need to add sweeteners to food.

 

Also red meat should be almost eliminated from your diet along with dairy.

 

 

 

Sweeteners are for taste, as some food is too bland otherwise. I love coffee, but black has never been appealing, and if I'm going to drink it, it will have a touch of soy or almond milk and a bit of Equal, Stevia or Splenda. I don't use near the amount I did before, in cereal or oatmeal, as I'm concerned with the artificial part. red meat is actually very healthy, as long as you don't eat too much of the fatty kind. It has nutrients other food doesn't. If you haven't any trouble digesting it, it's okay. Dairy is out besides yogurt, as I'm trying to re-do my guy microbiota after H Pylori treatment, which destroys much of your beneficial bacteria from the 2 doses of antibiotics. I only use almond, soy or other nut milks because cow milk , which I was allergic to as a child, isn't good for humans anyway.

Edited October 24 by fredwiggy