Swedish Men Arrested in Pattaya on Fraud and Overstay Charges

[mikebell]

5 hours ago, webfact said:

a targeted raid by the Immigration Bureau 3 police.

 

Acting on a tip-off,' 

the only time law enforcement officials make arrests; never good police work. LOS = Land of Spies.

[shackleton]

Had to smile 😃 when I read the stories of Thais or Tourists tarnishing the Thai tourists board of its World class  family image of Pattaya

Fighting or incidents  involving alcohol 

 

Then we have stories of international  criminals staying in Pattaya  undercover on a regular basis mostly found out after their visas have expired😱

[Stargeezr]

After these two men get fined and spend time in prison, they should be deported and banned for life

from Thailand.

[Caldera]

5 hours ago, webfact said:

As the investigation continues, authorities stress the importance of vigilance in identifying foreign nationals overstaying their visas, who may also be involved in criminal activities.

 

Makes sense. Someone who's on the run probably avoids showing up at immigration for an extension or border run. And there's a good chance that those overstayers continue to commit crimes to fund their ongoing stay.

[john donson]

 in europe, when SWEDISH did it, they hardly are swedish, more like...

[lordgrinz]

36 minutes ago, Caldera said:

 

Makes sense. Someone who's on the run probably avoids showing up at immigration for an extension or border run. And there's a good chance that those overstayers continue to commit crimes to fund their ongoing stay.

 

Maybe they should install cameras around Pattaya that scan faces and match them with the airport facial scans when they entered. Then use it to red-flag those that show up on the overstay list, if nothing else, it will deter the lowlifes from entering or living in the area.

[renaissanc]

I think that many criminals get caught because they get greedy. If they had stopped when they had stolen, say 10 million Baht, they might not have got caught. If you steal 50 million Baht, you will inevitably create attention and get caught.

[lordgrinz]

3 minutes ago, renaissanc said:

I think that many criminals get caught because they get greedy. If they had stopped when they had stolen, say 10 million Baht, they might not have got caught. If you steal 50 million Baht, you will inevitably create attention and get caught.

 

That 50 million baht was stolen in Sweden, not Thailand, they just got caught because they overstayed, very dumb mistake on their part.

[RichardColeman]

6 hours ago, webfact said:

The duo now faces a legal battle over their alleged crimes, entwining visa violations with their suspected fraud undertakingsm reported Thai Newsroom.

Just as a matter of interest does your illegal status in thailand become legal on entering prison ?

[jvs]

7 minutes ago, RichardColeman said:

Just as a matter of interest does your illegal status in thailand become legal on entering prison ?

That all depends .If you get caught for overstay you are already illegal.

If you are in jail and your visa expires you can get picked up upon release for overstay.

That has happened,if you have a competent lawyer this can be avoided.

 

[Grumpy one]

2 hours ago, khunpin said:

I'm Ching Chong Xha (assumed name). What might be my nationality? 🤔 🤦🏼‍♂️

Retarded Dick Head  from Butt Town

[lanng khao]

2 hours ago, Keeps said:

We had a guy called Vlad drink in one of the bars I frequent on Samui. He had terrible asthma so we called him Vlad the inhaler.

Was he always pleased to see you, or was that just the inhaler in his pocket..

[Zack61]

Put them in prison until they pay back what they’ve scammed then start their 10 year prison sentence. Good riddance 

[black tabby12345]

call centre fraud...

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Looks like increasing becoming common criminal livelihood on global scale.

Both in the East and West.

 

Some examples of common methods:

 

1-Asking for crediting money into the account(obtained in black market; e.g. bought from the homeless), pretending elders' close family members(sons, daughter).

 

2-Or contacting  strangers saying the police froze their accounts because of the criminal involvement suspicion.

 

And tell   victims  to transfer the account balance into the nominated accounts(this type often said to be happening here) to clear their names.

 

Phrase like law enforcement, court,  and  criminal allegation  function used to shut down people's brain.

 

The biggest contradiction is, Money cannot be sent out

If Accounts are Really Blocked. 

 

My English friend's mother is said to have encountered the case of fake son asking for money.

Fortunately, she noticed it was the trap.

 

 

 

 

 

[Cabradelmar]

5 hours ago, Woke to Sounds of Horking said:

However - - fine, deport, LIFETIME BAN.

Too easy. Prison in Thailand on fraid changes would be more appropriate. Tack on the lifetime ban after their prison term.

[black tabby12345]

In such a case(oversaty + criminal offence), do these ones 

face only deportation?

 

Or they are also likely to do their time in  jail here before extradition?

 

Is it up to with or without Thai victims?

 

Any Thai Law experts, please comment.

 

 

 

Edited October 30 by black tabby12345

[Gottfrid]

5 hours ago, TonyFromItaly said:

If they had all that money from scams, then why didn't they pay for an Elite visa? There is no logic to this story...

 

Tony

Don´t worry about that. Some Swedes just ain´t connected to logic and reality.

 

5 hours ago, spermwhale said:

How does one "amass 50 million baht in damages?" 

 

 

 

They perhaps amassed 50 million baht in ill-gotten gains. 

 

Damages are for the court to decide how much to levy in penalties on a defendant. You don't amass damages unless yuou've been sued and lost time and time again. 

 

You guys seriously need professional editors that catch this butchering of the English language. 

Let me explain for you. If 50 million is stolen or scammed out of a number of persons, every baht they got ripped from them, is a damage to their economy and life. That is seen from the victims side. You chose to see it from the perps side, and then it would be gains.

 

5 hours ago, Mburo said:

‘Swedish’ and ‘ fraud’ don’t automatically come to mind at the same time. 

Why? I am Swedish. I can vouch for that a lot of Swedes are into such activities. Mostly it will be imported Swedes, sons that are said to be Swedes.

 

5 hours ago, Captor said:

Vlad is not a Swedish name. Russian maybe?

Read the article, as it had no relevance. I was a made up name.

[madone]

3 hours ago, Bday Prang said:

Tony Kenway

 

https://www.nationthailand.com/in-focus/30304925

[madone]

11 minutes ago, Gottfrid said:

Let me explain for you. If 50 million is stolen or scammed out of a number of persons, every baht they got ripped from them, is a damage to their economy and life. That is seen from the victims side. You chose to see it from the perps side, and then it would be gains.

 

this why you should not be explaining nuances of the English language

[Gottfrid]

5 minutes ago, madone said:

 

this why you should not be explaining nuances of the English language

Sorry! This is why you should not use words, you apparently not understand. The is no nuances here. Just a difference on which side you are talking about.

To be nuances, damages or a similar word or expression with the same meaning needs to be possible to be applied to both perp and victim. In this case not possible. Same with gains, which also would need to be able to fit both victim and perp. Not possible in this case.

So there is fell down. Now try something else. 🙂 

[madone]

3 minutes ago, Gottfrid said:

Sorry! This is why you should not use words, you apparently not understand. The is no nuances here. Just a difference on which side you are talking about.

To be nuances, damages or a similar word or expression with the same meaning needs to be possible to be applied to both perp and victim. In this case not possible. Same with gains, which also would need to be able to fit both victim and perp. Not possible in this case.

So there is fell down. Now try something else. 🙂 

 

 

What?

Seriously, are you <deleted> up right now?

[Bday Prang]

4 minutes ago, Gottfrid said:

Sorry! This is why you should not use words, you apparently not understand. The is no nuances here. Just a difference on which side you are talking about.

To be nuances, damages or a similar word or expression with the same meaning needs to be possible to be applied to both perp and victim. In this case not possible. Same with gains, which also would need to be able to fit both victim and perp. Not possible in this case.

So there is fell down. Now try something else. 🙂 

correct, and damages are awarded by a court after losses and guilt have been established

[Iron Tongue]

2 hours ago, Stargeezr said:

After these two men get fined and spend time in prison, they should be deported and banned for life

from Thailand.

I think they did nothing illegal in Thailand beyond visa overstay and spending some of that stolen money.

Sweden would be the country that wants to put them on trial and imprison.

[Bday Prang]

1 minute ago, Iron Tongue said:

I think they did nothing illegal in Thailand beyond visa overstay

for some on here that is considered  virtually a capital offence.   

[Kinok Farang]

Albanians.

[Kinok Farang]

38 minutes ago, Gottfrid said:

Sorry! This is why you should not use words, you apparently not understand. The is no nuances here. Just a difference on which side you are talking about.

To be nuances, damages or a similar word or expression with the same meaning needs to be possible to be applied to both perp and victim. In this case not possible. Same with gains, which also would need to be able to fit both victim and perp. Not possible in this case.

So there is fell down. Now try something else. 🙂 

Clear as mud,thanks.

[Homburg]

8 hours ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

Pattaya would be a nice place without the many dodgy foreigners.

 

All the cowboys and criminals come to Pattaya. 

 

 So the dodgy Thais in Pattaya do not prevent it from being a "nice place"?

[SAFETY FIRST]

2 minutes ago, Homburg said:

 So the dodgy Thais in Pattaya do not prevent it from being a "nice place"?

The dodgy Thai's are my friends.

 

[Baba Naba]

This makes me think that the call center and the criminal loss of cash was commited in Sweden and that they were just busted here...  With lousy translations, it is very hard to decipher what is really being said.  

 

    Am I wrong?🤔

[Blueman1]

7 hours ago, BayArea said:

ask yourself, why is that?? I think we all know the answer. 

Sun,Sea,Sand,& S*X Maybe ??