Word Association (2024)

[snoop1130]

 

Thailand’s Meteorological Department has delayed announcing the start of winter due to unusual weather conditions throughout the country. The department expected winter to begin on October 29.

 

A spokesperson from the Meteorological Department explained that the northern and northeastern regions are the only places currently experiencing temperatures below 23 degrees Celsius, while the rest of the country is still seeing rain. Therefore, they will wait for a more widespread cold air mass before officially declaring winter. Officials hope to make an announcement within the next two weeks.

 

Last night's heavy rain and thunderstorms in Bangkok and nearby areas were the result of a strong cold air mass from China meeting a western wind system. As this cold air pushes the western wind system south, northern Thailand should see drier and cooler weather soon.

 

File photo for reference only

 

-- 2024-10-30

 

 

[OneMoreFarang]

13 minutes ago, snoop1130 said:

The department expected winter to begin on October 29.

And then?

Will they open the ski season?

 

 

[kwilco]

THere is no "winter" in Thailand - there are  3 (sometimes 2) seasons - they are ta;king about the change from Southwest to Northeast monsoons.

 

They are called 

Hot Season (ฤดูร้อน - Ruedu Ron): Roughly from March to mid-June, this season is characterized by high temperatures and dry conditions.

Rainy Season (ฤดูฝน - Ruedu Fon): From mid-June to October, the rainy season is influenced by the southwest monsoon, bringing frequent rains, especially in the southern and central regions.

Cool Season (ฤดูหนาว - Ruedu Nao): Lasting from November to February, this season is the mildest, with cooler temperatures, particularly in the northern and mountainous region

 

 To call a season "winter you need 4 seasons - and Autumn/fall before it and spring after - this doesn't happen in the Tropics 

Edited 4 hours ago by kwilco

[transam]

1 minute ago, kwilco said:

THere is no "winter" in Thailand - there are  3 (sometimes2) seasons

 

They are called 

Hot Season (ฤดูร้อน - Ruedu Ron): Roughly from March to mid-June, this season is characterized by high temperatures and dry conditions.

Rainy Season (ฤดูฝน - Ruedu Fon): From mid-June to October, the rainy season is influenced by the southwest monsoon, bringing frequent rains, especially in the southern and central regions.

Cool Season (ฤดูหนาว - Ruedu Nao): Lasting from November to February, this season is the mildest, with cooler temperatures, particularly in the northern and mountainous region

 

To call a sesaon "winter you need 4 seasons - and Autumn/fall before it and spring after - this doesn't happen in the Tropics

Spoil sport, Mrs.T calls the cold months winter, so there..........

[kwilco]

3 minutes ago, transam said:

Spoil sport, Mrs.T calls the cold months winter, so there..........

No she doesn't except to patronise people like you?

How often does she speak in English? and how good is her English?

[KannikaP]

4 minutes ago, kwilco said:

Hot Season (ฤดูร้อน - Ruedu Ron): Roughly from March to mid-June, this season is characterized by high temperatures and dry conditions.

Rainy Season (ฤดูฝน - Ruedu Fon): From mid-June to October, the rainy season is influenced by the southwest monsoon, bringing frequent rains, especially in the southern and central regions.

Cool Season (ฤดูหนาว - Ruedu Nao): Lasting from November to February, this season is the mildest, with cooler temperatures, particularly in the northern and mountainous region

Thank you for enlightening us all.

I would never have thought that the Hot Season is 'characterized by high temperatures'

The Rainy Season 'bringing frequent rains'

 and the Cool Season 'is the mildest, with cooler temperatures'

You live and learn.   555. Where is the sarcastic emoji please?

 

[transam]

5 minutes ago, kwilco said:

No she doesn't except to patronise people like you?

How often does she speak in English? and how good is her English?

Eh, are you feeling alright............

[0ffshore360]

I noticed that this year most of the weather bringing rain has come from the NE rather than the usual  SW .

So I can at least agree that the usual weather pattern has not occurred.

[KannikaP]

2 minutes ago, kwilco said:

No she doesn't except to patronise people like you?

How often does she speak in English? and how good is her English?

 

11 minutes ago, kwilco said:

No she doesn't except to patronise people like you?

How often does she speak in English? and how good is her English?

What the 4..k has it got to do with you?

[mran66]

Read a news story few days ago them making an official statement of winter starting. Thought it was weird. Now seeing official announcement of start of winter having been canceled feels even more weird. 

 

Why to have official winter start announced in the first place, even if you knew when winter starts, but especially if you don't? They try to make even weather political, trying to make reality by imaginary statements? 

 

TIT I Guess. 

[Lorry]

40 minutes ago, kwilco said:

Cool Season (ฤดูหนาว - Ruedu Nao): Lasting from November to February,

Nowadays, it's called ฤดูฝุ่น Ruedu fun - smog season. Characterized by burning fields and burning eyes, fire engines spraying Silom Rd and politicians promising improvements. 

[kwilco]

2 minutes ago, Lorry said:

Nowadays, it's called ฤดูฝุ่น Ruedu fun - smog season. Characterized by burning fields and burning eyes, fire engines spraying Silom Rd and politicians promising improvements. 

Burning season is Jan to March

[Dmaxdan]

45 minutes ago, kwilco said:

THere is no "winter" in Thailand - there are  3 (sometimes 2) seasons - they are ta;king about the change from Southwest to Northeast monsoons.

 

They are called 

Hot Season (ฤดูร้อน - Ruedu Ron): Roughly from March to mid-June, this season is characterized by high temperatures and dry conditions.

Rainy Season (ฤดูฝน - Ruedu Fon): From mid-June to October, the rainy season is influenced by the southwest monsoon, bringing frequent rains, especially in the southern and central regions.

Cool Season (ฤดูหนาว - Ruedu Nao): Lasting from November to February, this season is the mildest, with cooler temperatures, particularly in the northern and mountainous region

 

 To call a season "winter you need 4 seasons - and Autumn/fall before it and spring after - this doesn't happen in the Tropics 

Thailand has much more of a winter/cool season than an autumn/ fall one. Mainly because there are little or no deciduous trees here.

 

The first time my wife visited my native UK was in November and I will always remember her asking me "why are all the trees were dead"?

 

[kwilco]

30 minutes ago, 0ffshore360 said:

I noticed that this year most of the weather bringing rain has come from the NE rather than the usual  SW .

So I can at least agree that the usual weather pattern has not occurred.

THere was a Typhoon from the NorthEast

[Kerryd]

I've noticed there are really only two seasons in Thailand. 

Rainy season - which normally runs from mid-April(ish) to mid-October(ish) and is the hottest part of the year.
Dry season - from mid-October to mid-April and, generally, the coolest part of the year (especially in the Northern provinces).

It's not an exact science of course. This year we didn't get much rain at all at the start of the rainy season but have been getting blasted over the last couple of months.

And I recall last year (2023) commenting in early April that "Songkran" had started early because we were already getting lots of heavy rains well before the actual holiday.

But generally it's "hot and wet" from April to October and "dry and cool" from Oct to April.

I remember it used to be a hoot coming to Thailand (from Canada or another cold place) in Jan/Feb and walking around in shorts and a t-shirt at 2 am while the locals, especially the girls, were wearing sweaters and wool hats and gloves like there was a blizzard roaring through because the temperature was down to 20-22 Celsius (68-72 Farenheit).

My friends make a point of taking a trip "up north" each year so we can go camping "in the cold". I tell them I moved to Thailand to get away from that !
And we end up somewhere like Ban Ja Bo or Ban Rak Thai or even Pai and it really, really re-affirms my decision to move here.

This was the temperature at a resort in Pai in Early Dec 2019. (5.7 Celsius - 42 Farenheit)

[fredwiggy]

43 minutes ago, transam said:

Spoil sport, Mrs.T calls the cold months winter, so there..........

Same as my girlfriend. It gets a little cooler and out comes the sweaters, blankets and extra clothes, while I'm still wearing shorts and a t-shirt. I was born in New Jersey and left there for Texas because I didn't like the extended winter cold, so cold too long isn't my cup of tea, but when they say it's cold here I still laugh.

[dinsdale]

So they say it starts on the 29th and it doesn't so they say it's postponed. You can't make this sht up. IMO you know the change of season is coming that morning you get up and notice a cool breeze coming down from the N/ NE and no cumulonimbus clouds in the sky throughout the day. 

[0ffshore360]

51 minutes ago, kwilco said:

THere was a Typhoon from the NorthEast

That lasted  several months ? In the Isaan area?

 

 

Edited 2 hours ago by 0ffshore360

[kwilco]

4 minutes ago, 0ffshore360 said:

That lasted  several months ? In the Isaan area?

 

 

Yes - the aftermath lasted for several weeks - it dragged a lot of bad weather in after it.

[kwilco]

50 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Same as my girlfriend. It gets a little cooler and out comes the sweaters, blankets and extra clothes, while I'm still wearing shorts and a t-shirt. I was born in New Jersey and left there for Texas because I didn't like the extended winter cold, so cold too long isn't my cup of tea, but when they say it's cold here I still laugh.

THere is no Thai word for winter - only the cool season.

Edited 2 hours ago by kwilco

[kickstart]

1 hour ago, kwilco said:

THere is no "winter" in Thailand - there are  3 (sometimes 2) seasons - they are ta;king about the change from Southwest to Northeast monsoons.

 

They are called 

Hot Season (ฤดูร้อน - Ruedu Ron): Roughly from March to mid-June, this season is characterized by high temperatures and dry conditions.

Rainy Season (ฤดูฝน - Ruedu Fon): From mid-June to October, the rainy season is influenced by the southwest monsoon, bringing frequent rains, especially in the southern and central regions.

Cool Season (ฤดูหนาว - Ruedu Nao): Lasting from November to February, this season is the mildest, with cooler temperatures, particularly in the northern and mountainous region

 

 To call a season "winter you need 4 seasons - and Autumn/fall before it and spring after - this doesn't happen in the Tropics 

Thais in our area say they are 2 seasons in Thailand, Ruedo Ron, hot, and Ruduo Ron Mark, very hot. 

[kwilco]

55 minutes ago, Kerryd said:

I've noticed there are really only two seasons in Thailand.

In the South that is more the case.

[kwilco]

2 minutes ago, kickstart said:

Thais in our area say they are 2 seasons in Thailand, Ruedo Ron, hot, and Ruduo Ron Mark, very hot. 

Where I worked, they said three - "hot" ,"very hot" and "too hot"  (ron pai)

[dinsdale]

41 minutes ago, Kerryd said:

I've noticed there are really only two seasons in Thailand. 

Rainy season - which normally runs from mid-April(ish) to mid-October(ish) and is the hottest part of the year.
Dry season - from mid-October to mid-April and, generally, the coolest part of the year (especially in the Northern provinces).

It's not an exact science of course. This year we didn't get much rain at all at the start of the rainy season but have been getting blasted over the last couple of months.

And I recall last year (2023) commenting in early April that "Songkran" had started early because we were already getting lots of heavy rains well before the actual holiday.

But generally it's "hot and wet" from April to October and "dry and cool" from Oct to April.

I remember it used to be a hoot coming to Thailand (from Canada or another cold place) in Jan/Feb and walking around in shorts and a t-shirt at 2 am while the locals, especially the girls, were wearing sweaters and wool hats and gloves like there was a blizzard roaring through because the temperature was down to 20-22 Celsius (68-72 Farenheit).

My friends make a point of taking a trip "up north" each year so we can go camping "in the cold". I tell them I moved to Thailand to get away from that !
And we end up somewhere like Ban Ja Bo or Ban Rak Thai or even Pai and it really, really re-affirms my decision to move here.

This was the temperature at a resort in Pai in Early Dec 2019. (5.7 Celsius - 42 Farenheit)

I think you need to re-think this post. Two seasons in Thailand? Songkran starting early? April to October is the hottest? Well sure April is the hottest but after that it's the long hot and humid build up to when the real wet season starts full on in July/August. There are usually some storms in May but these reduce through June and July until the real rainy season starts. Last couple of years this has been late August/early September. I'm guessing you don't live here full time. As for getting cold up in the north it certainly does but this also goes for the NE. People in Thailand die from both the heat and cold exposure. 

 

[ChaiyaTH]

So many things to worry about, fix, improve, 100000 promises waiting to be kept, but yeah, the day we put in the news 'winter starts' really matters.... Meanwhile Vietnam is taking your tourists 1000 by 1000, oh and your agriculture sector, oh and your industrial sector, and oh, well everything.

 

Thailand and Vietnam is a bit like the West and China, but then 10-20 years ago, when everyone mocked China. Both lick ass + broke.

 

It is funny though, i thought covid would be the wake up call but these Thais really think it will magically come to them / be fixed.

Edited 2 hours ago by ChaiyaTH

[kickstart]

2 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

I think you need to re-think this post. Two seasons in Thailand? Songkran starting early? April to October is the hottest? Well sure April is the hottest but after that it's the long hot and humid build up to when the real wet season starts full on in July/August. There are usually some storms in May but these reduce through June and July until the real rainy season starts. Last couple of years this has been late August/early September. I'm guessing you don't live here full time. As for getting cold up in the north it certainly does but this also goes for the NE. People in Thailand die from both the heat and cold exposure. 

 

Talk of it being humid, the years I have been here the humidity over the past month has been high 70-80 % often, nonmale it is still the rainy season (I am in Lopburi province) but it seems to be done this year, we did have 64 mm rain over 3 days 2 weeks ago, as to say that is it for this year, which it seems to be.

Looking forward to the easterly winds blowing, that will be the start of the cool season, rice farmers will be glad to, it is the cool dry winds that dries the rice crop before harvest. 

 

[theblether]

1 hour ago, mran66 said:

Read a news story few days ago them making an official statement of winter starting. Thought it was weird. Now seeing official announcement of start of winter having been canceled feels even more weird. 

 

Why to have official winter start announced in the first place, even if you knew when winter starts, but especially if you don't? They try to make even weather political, trying to make reality by imaginary statements? 

 

TIT I Guess. 

 

No. The declaration of winter alerts NGO's and other social agencies to be prepared for warm clothing and bedding distribution. Localities prone to cold weather are visited by charities donating both. 

 

The coldest temperature I experienced was 4 degrees, that would have been January 2016. To be fair I was a guest of a Karien hill tribe family on a mountain top. Around the same time a cold snap hammered Chiang Mai, that was worse as the provision of warm clothing etc didn't stretch into the urban areas. I, and several others, bought blankets for locals. I can't remember if that was 2016 or 17, what did stand out was the number of farang pensioners who were suffering due to the extreme cold. 

 

Blankets and warm clothes are always welcome, warm shoes a very welcome bonus, especially for kids. There's nothing sadder than seeing youngsters shivering while wearing flip flops. So if any of you are looking to make a charity donation this winter, go into the second hand shoe shops first and buy up all the training shoes ( sneakers ) etc you can find. Brand new if you like. 

 

Why do I say second hand? A certain coterie of hill tribe people are not above receiving the warm clothing etc then selling it on. Cruel? Comical? or poverty needs/must? 

 

Whatever. But you'd be surprised at the social structures that kick into place during cold weather snaps. 

 

#justsayin'  

[dinsdale]

Thais think if it's the cool season (cold for them) it's called winter when speaking English. Of course in English we the cool season. Can definitely get quite chilly though. Beautiful. Sub 10°C mornings having a coffee is glorious. Love it when it really cools down because you don't get much of here in the LOS and every year seems less and less. Having said this the sub 10° mornings only really happen up in the north and northeast. Bangkok lucky to get sub 18°.

[dinsdale]

44 minutes ago, kickstart said:

Talk of it being humid, the years I have been here the humidity over the past month has been high 70-80 % often, nonmale it is still the rainy season (I am in Lopburi province) but it seems to be done this year, we did have 64 mm rain over 3 days 2 weeks ago, as to say that is it for this year, which it seems to be.

Looking forward to the easterly winds blowing, that will be the start of the cool season, rice farmers will be glad to, it is the cool dry winds that dries the rice crop before harvest. 

 

Season change isn't far away. I'm "guessing" sometime in the next week we'll start feeling that cool breeze coming down from China. 

[ikke1959]

the weather can't be postponed by Thailand.. It is uncontrolable although Thailand wants to control everything. Climate change will be the cause that weather is changing and the the cold season is maybe taking longer than expected.. No Thai expert can change that