Expats and Retirees Excluded in Thailand's Citizenship Grants

[BritScot]

11 hours ago, prakhonchai nick said:

Just like in the UK, 480,000 stateless people (effectively refugees)  once given citizenship, will clog up hospitals making waits even longer, since  seeing a doctor will now be free.

They already are and don't forget the near a million coming into the UK legally every year. 

Edited 7 hours ago by BritScot

[pacovl46]

12 hours ago, bradiston said:

Refugees are expats? Are you kidding?

Really? Refugees from Cambodia and Laos? 

 

The article stated expats, plus stateless people plus refugees. Just because you're an expat doesn't mean that your stateless or a refugee and I'm only talking about expats. I have no problem eith stateless people and refugees being given citizenship whatsoever.

Edited 7 hours ago by pacovl46

[pacovl46]

11 hours ago, Aviatorhi said:

They have a state (citizenship) whereas these stateless people from disputed border regions do not. Try using more than the "me me me" part of your brain at least once in your life. 

I have no problem with stateless people and refugees being given citizenship whatsoever, but that doesn't really apply to expats from Cambodia and Laos, now does it? 

Edited 7 hours ago by pacovl46

[pacovl46]

6 hours ago, NanLaew said:

 

The people from Myanmar, Laos and Cambodia are stateless.

 

What's your state?

Myanmar yes, and some of the northern tribes also yes, but Laos and Cambodia? Also, the article mentions expats, plus refugees, plus stateless people. I'm only talking about expats!

Edited 7 hours ago by pacovl46

[nakhonandy]

It is somewhat irritating when some friends of mine in the UK have Thai wives and they are granted UK citizenship. However, neither I or friends in Thailand with Thai wives and family are granted similar rights.

That said, I totally agree with the government proposal to do this for the stateless minority. 

[BritManToo]

1 minute ago, nakhonandy said:

It is somewhat irritating when some friends of mine in the UK have Thai wives and they are granted UK citizenship. However, neither I or friends in Thailand with Thai wives and family are granted similar rights.

That said, I totally agree with the government proposal to do this for the stateless minority. 

It's even easier for foreign women to get Thai citizenship as the spouse of a Thai man.

[nakhonandy]

4 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

It's even easier for foreign women to get Thai citizenship as the spouse of a Thai man.

True, I forgot to include that, thanks.

Typical of this chauvinist society. 

[Gknrd]

Let's face it Thailand is a very difficult place to call home. It has only one thing and you have to be on Guard with that.  As I got older Thailand was just more of a PITA than a retirement home.

[elektrified]

13 hours ago, pacovl46 said:

How does the expat status of people from Myanmar, Laos and Cambodia differ from expats from western countries? Theyrw both expats. Also, I'd say it's safe to say, that expats and retirees from western countries have more expendable income than any of the neighboring Asian countries. They therefore stimulate tue economy quote a bit more per capita...

They are stateless... and contribute to the economy, pay taxes....get it? My friend is Shan/Tai Yai, has lived here 30+ years. She is legally employed, pays into the social security system for healthcare, her child is a Thai citizen. She deserves citizenship. 

[thailand49]

12 hours ago, bradiston said:

Wrong. They're not what you say. Your ignorance is astounding. I'm not surprised Thais shun you. I would too.

I think what is astounding you got you head up the ass of a Thai you cant see the light. Thai shun me cause I know too much as for you they laugh behind your back cause you one SMF!

[steven62]

17 hours ago, pacovl46 said:

How does the expat status of people from Myanmar, Laos and Cambodia differ from expats from western countries? Theyrw both expats. Also, I'd say it's safe to say, that expats and retirees from western countries have more expendable income than any of the neighboring Asian countries. They therefore stimulate tue economy quote a bit more per capita...

 

13 hours ago, Aussie999 said:

You are educated, the others aren't, which means they can control the uneducated asians.

it's known as helping the less fortunate. do you think came here with a pension to rely on

[DonniePeverley]

17 hours ago, pacovl46 said:

How does the expat status of people from Myanmar, Laos and Cambodia differ from expats from western countries? Theyrw both expats. Also, I'd say it's safe to say, that expats and retirees from western countries have more expendable income than any of the neighboring Asian countries. They therefore stimulate tue economy quote a bit more per capita...

 

 

These will be needed for the low paid labour. 

[SingAPorn]

One has to admit that in general, the adult girls from Myanmar, Laos or Cambodia are really hot, great bodies, sweet character and are usually groomed to serve their men well. Much better then most girls in Thailand one bumps into in Bangkok, Pattaya, Hua Hin or Phulet, with obvious exceptions to this as anywhere.

Edited 2 hours ago by SingAPorn

[Stargeezr]

The illegal workers that Thailand needs should be able to get this favor

from the Thai government. Thailand needs them for the labor jobs

that richer Thais will not do. Rich expats that can afford to stay

in Thailand just have to spend a certain amount of money and

be in Thailand a certain amount of time and can get a citizenship, drivers license

and the like. Those that cannot afford it can head back to their home

countries. That was my choice.

[DavisH]

16 hours ago, thailand49 said:

The truth?  These are basically illegals here doing work Thai dont want or brought in by Thais for lower wages.

Reason coverup verbally is the decline in their own population 

It is even a race issue as an Expat I dont expect or want citizenship it isnt going to stop the discrimination I feel daily and Ive been here 2 decades and it isnt the duel pricing stuff.

But I do feel if you been here like 10 years clean history done all ask in obtaining Your visa for whatever reason thrown a bone so one dont have to jump through hoops, TM30, TM47, IMM-O!  

Im not asking for much am I?🤔

You "fee' discrimination daily". Poor sod. Your nerves must be shot to bits. Thailand doesn't owe you or me anything!  

[PuiPuiHarry]

19 hours ago, pacovl46 said:

How does the expat status of people from Myanmar, Laos and Cambodia differ from expats from western countries? Theyrw both expats. Also, I'd say it's safe to say, that expats and retirees from western countries have more expendable income than any of the neighboring Asian countries. They therefore stimulate tue economy quote a bit more per capita...

One and only ONE reason: their skin and hair colour of "whire "expats. Thailand soes NOT want to be a mixed colour society.

[dinsdale]

21 hours ago, webfact said:

this effort is aimed at people from Myanmar, Laos, and Cambodia who have lived in Thailand for decades

Basically this is a racist policy. Been here 20 yrs and get fast tracked because your from an ASEAN nation. Surely applying for citizenship should be based equally across the board if applicable.