Election Day Updates -

[NanLaew]

17 hours ago, mogandave said:

We all saw and heard what? I’m not making excuses for anyone. You are clearly not very bright and not at all honest.

 

You are either a leftist or a fool, or both. You only see and hear only what you’re told to see and hear. 

 

You regurgitate a lot of boneheaded claims and are never able to support anything you say. 

 

 

 

Meanwhile, back on Fox News...

[NanLaew]

3 hours ago, brewsterbudgen said:

If Sotomayer retired today, would President Biden and the Democrat senate be able to get a replacement through before Trump and the Repblicans take over?

 

Based on precedent, not a snowball's chance in hell.

[NanLaew]

2 hours ago, impulse said:

Here's a puzzler....

 

Trump actually got fewer votes in 2024 than in 2020 (72.6 million vs 74.2 million)

 

Harris got 67.9 Million in 2024 vs Biden at 81.2 million in 2020.  That's 13 million Dem votes missing.

 

That's lighting the conspiracy theorists on fire.  But it's only really being discussed on "unapproved sources".  Me?  I'm just glad the RNC hired thousands of roving attorneys and enlisted over a hundred thousand poll watchers.   Nobody's going to convince me that 15 million fewer real, legal voters showed up or mailed in in 2024 than in 2020 (during the social distancing pandemic).

 

Edit:  Of course, we'll see as the final tallies trickle in.  But it doesn't look like enough to square things off.

 

 

Did you forget that some folks decided NOT to vote? Is that so unlikely? I guess once that conspiracy theory stuff is in your blood...

[impulse]

14 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

Did you forget that some folks decided NOT to vote? Is that so unlikely? I guess once that conspiracy theory stuff is in your blood...

  

Almost 10% more of the voters decided to sit out the most impactful election of my 60+ year lifetime?  With the parties spending a combined $billion to get out the vote?   And they don't even have to leave home?  Sure...

 

Edited yesterday at 05:58 AM by impulse

[mogandave]

1 hour ago, NanLaew said:

 

Do you actually assassinate vermin and cockroaches?

 

Honestly, some people...

Meanwhile, back on CNN

[transam]

1 minute ago, mogandave said:

Meanwhile, back on CNN

And..............🤔

[NanLaew]

2 hours ago, impulse said:

  

Almost 10% more of the voters decided to sit out the most impactful election of my 60+ year lifetime?  With the parties spending a combined $billion to get out the vote?   And they don't even have to leave home?  Sure...

 

Are you denying that it's possible that some folks were so sick and fed up of the whole circus, and disenfranchised by BOTH parties schtick, that they decided not to get out of bed? That no matter who's box they checked, nothing was ever going to change?

 

But enough of my hypotheticals, what's yours?

 

PS: Online and/or postal voting isn't available in all states.

Edited yesterday at 08:26 AM by NanLaew

[dinsdale]

3 hours ago, NanLaew said:

 

Do you actually assassinate vermin and cockroaches?

 

Honestly, some people...

No. You exterminate them. End result is the same. Honestly, some people ..... 

[mogandave]

5 hours ago, NanLaew said:

Are you denying that it's possible that some folks were so sick and fed up of the whole circus, and disenfranchised by BOTH parties schtick, that they decided not to get out of bed? That no matter who's box they checked, nothing was ever going to change?

 

But enough of my hypotheticals, what's yours?

 

PS: Online and/or postal voting isn't available in all states.

Except that more voters came out for team red in 2024 than 2020, and way fewer voters came out for team blue in 2024 than did in 2020.

[NanLaew]

15 hours ago, mogandave said:

Except that more voters came out for team red in 2024 than 2020, and way fewer voters came out for team blue in 2024 than did in 2020.

 

Yes, it is notable that even in the places where Trump lost the vote, the GOP improved their percentages. There's no denying that the disenchantment and election torpor was mostly blue.

[mogandave]

28 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

 

Yes, it is notable that even in the places where Trump lost the vote, the GOP improved their percentages. There's no denying that the disenchantment and election torpor was mostly blue.

And no post election rioting yet as far as I know.  

 

I don’t think it was election torpor (I had to look that up) but rather this time they (not you of course) knew that the legacy media were all liars, that Trump was not a fascist, and that Harris was an embarrassment. 

 

 

[transam]

1 minute ago, mogandave said:

And no post election rioting yet as far as I know.  

 

I don’t think it was election torpor (I had to look that up) but rather this time they (not you of course) knew that the legacy media were all liars, that Trump was not a fascist, and that Harris was an embarrassment. 

 

 

Yeh, riiiiiiiiiiight................

[248900_1469958220]

25 minutes ago, transam said:

Yeh, riiiiiiiiiiight................

You still here? Formulated any plans yet from what you learned from the democrats absolute drubbing? Something positive to tell your lefty luvvies? Some kind of considered thoughts? 

[transam]

2 minutes ago, 248900_1469958220 said:

You still here? Formulated any plans yet from what you learned from the democrats absolute drubbing? Something positive to tell your lefty luvvies? Some kind of considered thoughts? 

Eeeeeeeeer, I am not from the USA...🤭....

This is just another thread to have a chat on. Though the only reason I have posted a lot on it, is, Trump is a buffoon car salesman type, that hasn't got a clue what he is doing POLITICALLY, and a total embarrassment for the USA...........🤗

 

 

[newnative]

      I posted this on one of the other election threads but it might be more appropriate here.   To use a term my dear old Dad liked, us Dems have had a shellacking in this election.  I've said before that Biden winning by 7 million in 2020 was a landslide.  Ditto for Trump winning by over 4 million this time.  Quite an embarrassing swing for the Dems--going from a 7 million vote win in 2020 to a 4 million loss in 2024, and to a convicted felon.  Shellacking.

    Lots of blame to go around, starting with Biden not announcing early that he would only serve one term, which would have allowed the Dems to select the 2024 candidate through a primary season.  Harris might have still ended up the candidate but she would have gone through the process first, for better or worse.  Perhaps a stronger candidate might have emerged, as well.  107 days was not nearly enough time to get up to speed, with the way presidential elections are run these days.  

    James Carville famously said in 1992, "it's the economy, stupid."  I would add, in presidential elections, it's always the economy, stupid.  Other issues, such as abortion, might resonate in non-presidential election years but the economy's always the main squeeze in prez elections.  With 20/20 hindsight, it was a big mistake for the Dems to focus so much on Trump, rather than on their plans to make the lives of Americans better, and, especially, better economically.  

     Getting this economic message across could not be more important because the Dems are not doing as well as they should with young voters, Black male voters, and Latino voters--a good chunk of the future.  It's easy to see that with these voters, the economy would certainly be right up at the top as a voter issue.   This election, the Dems lost most of the 'Blue Wall'--and this after supposedly pouring maximum time, money, and effort into winning it.  Clearly, focusing on Trump wasn't a winning message--the voters were more focused on their wallets.

     If the Dems can't get the 'Blue Wall' back it will be difficult for them to win presidential elections--that was abundantly clear as I watched the election map and Trump quicky built a big Electoral College lead with all the very reliable 'Red' states reporting in.  Quite simply, at this point the Reps have far too many very reliable red states and, lately, the Dems don't have enough very reliable blue states.  That was also the case in 2020, where Biden easily won the popular vote by 7 million but just barely won the Electoral College.  

    To make matters worse, some of the so-called 'swing' states weren't really so swingy.  Trump won North Carolina fairly easily--51.1% vs 47.7%--and Nevada and Arizona look to be going Republican by more than a few percentage points.  Georgia was a little closer but looks to be, along with the others, a leaning red state rather than a swing state.   A lotta work ahead for the Dems.