Why Donald Trump Could be a Major Challenge for the British Government

[Bday Prang]

2 minutes ago, sammieuk1 said:

Fear not Keirs father was a toolmaker Rachel wants' her black hole filling all that's needed is a convicted sex offender to forge the special relationship  🤔

Did he produce any sharper tools than the one we have been landed with ?  

[roo860]

54 minutes ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

 

In a very short time, Starmer has established a huge catalogue of errors; none more erroneous than appointing David Lammy as Foreign Secretary. Lammy is vehemently anti-American, anti-British, and antisemitic; he is the worst kind of racist, because he thinks that only white people can be racist.

 

One of his first moves was to approve funding again for the Hamas affiliated ‘Agency’ UNRWA; then he cancelled export licences to Israel, all to appease the muslim block vote in the UK; Israel, who after America, are the UK’s most important source of antiterrorism intelligence. He has berated, insulted, and derided the President of the USA, he is an absolute disaster, and a disgusting, disingenuous human being. What in god’s name has happened to my country ?

 

 

 

 

Absolutely he's a total <deleted>!

[proton]

Starmer is an extremist and does not follow a 'moderate approach' Locking people up for years for holding signs, shouting at Police dogs making a facebook post or just standing about near demonstrations is not moderate. Calling protesters against Islamic murder and illegal immigrants flooding ashore 'far right thugs' was not moderate either. 

Edited 14 hours ago by proton

[connda]

6 hours ago, Social Media said:

Keir Starmer, the British prime minister and a leader who values rule of law and a moderate approach

Keir Starmer and his ilk are turning the UK into a totalitarian hell-hole.  Want to see what the US would have become under the Democrats?  Look at the UK - the state is used as a hammer against its own citizens. 

[James105]

Starmer rolled the dice and lost spectacularly.   

 

"Do not underestimate the damage Starmer has done to relations with the US - the Trump team are ready and waiting to unleash all-out war on him, because he is perceived as anti-American and a whingeing, liberal bore"

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14005783/Donald-Trump-unleash-war-Keir-Starmer-wins-Presidential-race-row-Labour-helping-rival-Kamala-Harris.html

 

He should bend the knee to Farage and beg him for help, remove anyone and everyone (which is most of the front bench and London mayor) who has been involved in libellous hyperbole on social media about Trump, and following that resign after calling for a new election to allow the British people to correct the mistake that was made now they have the knowledge of what a disaster it is having these clowns in government. 

[Patong2021]

52 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Lammy has some serious sucking up to do.......lol

 

I expect that you , like me do not believe he is up to it.  In a situation like this, it will probably require a special envoy, or point person, side stepping the Foreign Secretary, who is more comfortable uttering platitudes to Islamic lobbyists. Unfortunately, aside from Nigel Farage, I don't think there is anyone in the UK that Trump has any use for. 

 

If Farage goes to the USA and gets a  rousing hug of hospitality, that will be a big, and blatant message to the UK. The UK is not in a position to alienate  the USA as it doesn't have any helpful friends in Europe (aside from Poland, the Netherlands and Denmark). The EU is still pursuing a petty vendetta against the UK  for its  withdrawal from the EU.

 

Maybe the UK will reverse course on its self destructive hostile  approach to Canada. The UK had been trying to bully Canada in the negotiations of a free trade agreement. It had demanded easy access to Canadian markets but refused to reduce market access barriers for Canada’s agriculture industry. The UK  walked away from the trade talks in January 2024 assuming Canada would cave. it did not. If  Trump imposes his tariffs, the UK is going to regret not having a trade deal with Canada. This trade negotiation fiasco highlights the culture of arrogance that permeates the Foreign Affairs and the Foreign Trade Offices. A tough time with the Trump administration might be the enema the British  civil servants  require to reduce their bloated sense of self importance.

 

 

 

 

[mdr224]

UK folk will see the US and will demand a similar government soon

[brewsterbudgen]

Just now, mdr224 said:

UK folk will see the US and will demand a similar government soon

 

The British people made their choice in July.  We have 5-year terms, so there will almost certainly be a new US president by the time of the next UK election.  President Newsom, hopefully.

[sungod]

1 hour ago, JonnyF said:

The bloke is an imbecile. 

 

Lammy is a racist.

[JonnyF]

2 minutes ago, sungod said:

 

Lammy is a racist.

 

Yes he is.

 

He is also incredibly stupid. He stated on MasterMind that Henry VII succeeded Henry VIII and that Red Leicester is a blue cheese.

 

He is also a liar, claiming he was raised in a family dependant on tax credits, even though they were not introduced until he was 31. 

 

He is an embarrassment to the country and needs to resign if Labour want any semblance of credibility. 

[Eloquent pilgrim]

21 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

 

The British people made their choice in July.  We have 5-year terms, so there will almost certainly be a new US president by the time of the next UK election.  President Newsom, hopefully.

 

Remember that Labour were elected because of the UK’s bizarre FPTP electoral system; however, only approximately 20% of those on the electoral register actually voted for them. They do not have a mandate for the radical socialist changes they are implementing, and might need to call a general election well before their term of government is up.

 

 

[sungod]

33 minutes ago, proton said:

Starmer is an extremist and does not follow a 'moderate approach' Locking people up for years for holding signs, shouting at Police dogs making a facebook post or just standing about near demonstrations is not moderate

 

All those fast tracked and given excessive sentences.

 

Whilst this is going on 2 Tier Kier's mate Ricky Jones (the one who called for right wing people's throats to be cut)  is still waiting to go to trial, Labour MP Mike Amesbury who suckered punched one of his constituents and beat repeatedly the guy whilst he was defenseless  on the road, (all caught on CCTV) is running around on bail and not even charged yet.

 

Has anyone been charged for the Manchester airport incident yet?

 

Welcome to Labours' 2 tier system

[sungod]

2 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

He is also incredibly stupid. He stated on MasterMind that Henry VII succeeded Henry VIII and that Red Leicester is a blue cheese.

 

He's not married to Diane Abbot by any chance?

[JonnyF]

4 minutes ago, sungod said:

 

He's not married to Diane Abbot by any chance?

 

He has all the characteristics to be her son.

 

But Abbott's son is even worse, with a long history of violence including that against NHS workers.  

[josephbloggs]

15 minutes ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

 

Remember that Labour were elected because of the UK’s bizarre FPTP electoral system; however, only approximately 20% of those on the electoral register actually voted for them. They do not have a mandate for the radical socialist changes they are implementing, and might need to call a general election well before their term of government is up.

 

 

You mean the FPTP system that the Tories campaigned, and voted, against changing whilst they were in power?

[baansgr]

4 hours ago, JonnyF said:

 

He must be disappointed that they were screengrabbed and reposted by thousands of users on X 😆.

Why not..silly person

[AndreasHG]

Back soon?

[Skeptic7]

He's going to be a major challenge for all governments, especially the US government. I'm sure he'll be nice and cozy with Putin and Kim...the "dick-tators" he worships and aspires to be. Well he's certainly always had that first syllable spot on. 🤣

[brewsterbudgen]

6 hours ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

 

Remember that Labour were elected because of the UK’s bizarre FPTP electoral system; however, only approximately 20% of those on the electoral register actually voted for them. They do not have a mandate for the radical socialist changes they are implementing, and might need to call a general election well before their term of government is up.

 

 

Yes, I vote Liberal Democrat and favour proportional representation.  But Labour aren't going to change it now! 

[brewsterbudgen]

29 minutes ago, AndreasHG said:

Back soon?

Not sure who is more of a buffoon!  Actually I do.  Boris.

[Eloquent pilgrim]

1 hour ago, brewsterbudgen said:

Yes, I vote Liberal Democrat and favour proportional representation.  But Labour aren't going to change it now! 

 

So you voted for Ed Davey, who as Postal Minister in 2010 refused to meet Post Office Campaigner Alan Bates, and oversaw one of the greatest injustices in British history; a man that cannot even define what a woman is …. Wow

 

 

[ModdaPunk]

Stop with the fearmongering.

Biggest threat to the UK right now are the losers leading the country.

[oxo1947]

10 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Farage willing to help a foreign power would not be a surprise.

 

Are you missing the point Chomper ? they sent 100 people to assist 1 certain candidate in a foreign  election.

[Chomper Higgot]

36 minutes ago, oxo1947 said:

 

Are you missing the point Chomper ? they sent 100 people to assist 1 certain candidate in a foreign  election.

And Farage had never helped the Trump campaign?

 

But that was not my point.

 

Jonny thinks it a good idea for the leader of a UK political party and an MP to assist a foreign leader undermine a sitting UK PM.

 

 

Edited 4 hours ago by Chomper Higgot

[John Drake]

16 hours ago, Social Media said:

Keir Starmer, the British prime minister and a leader who values rule of law and a moderate approach

 

Are they trying to be funny?

[oxo1947]

48 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

And Farage had never helped the Trump campaign?

 

But that was not my point.

 

Jonny thinks it a good idea for the leader of a UK political party and an MP to assist a foreign leader undermine a sitting UK PM.

 Chomper America is Britain's biggest trading partner -- did you read the British press this morning .

 

Foreign Secretary Mr Lammy previously branded Mr Trump a 'Neo-Nazi sympathiser

DEPUTY PM ANGELA RAYNER previously  tweeted 'I am so happy to see the back of Donald Trump, but even more so to see @KamalaHarris

ENERGY SECRETARY ED MILIBAND  --previously stated- The idea that we have shared values with a racist, misogynistic, self-confessed groper beggars belief,'

 

Then the press go on to list a lot more insults spoken by everyone in the top tier of the UK government--then to top it a sitting UK government decides to send 100 people to help the opposition to Trump in a major foreign election.....

 

 Its really hard to compare the stupidity and the magnitude of what the UK government done with what Farage  inept steps.

 

[Chomper Higgot]

31 minutes ago, oxo1947 said:

 Chomper America is Britain's biggest trading partner -- did you read the British press this morning .

 

Foreign Secretary Mr Lammy previously branded Mr Trump a 'Neo-Nazi sympathiser

DEPUTY PM ANGELA RAYNER previously  tweeted 'I am so happy to see the back of Donald Trump, but even more so to see @KamalaHarris

ENERGY SECRETARY ED MILIBAND  --previously stated- The idea that we have shared values with a racist, misogynistic, self-confessed groper beggars belief,'

 

Then the press go on to list a lot more insults spoken by everyone in the top tier of the UK government--then to top it a sitting UK government decides to send 100 people to help the opposition to Trump in a major foreign election.....

 

 Its really hard to compare the stupidity and the magnitude of what the UK government done with what Farage  inept steps.

 

What has any of that to do with my post?

[JonnyF]

13 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The French also claim a special relationship, and Trump boasts of his special relationship with a few other national leaders.

Yeah and now Trump has 4 years to utilise that. 

 

Thanks Kamala. You did what we all expected. And more.

[Chomper Higgot]

26 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Yeah and now Trump has 4 years to utilise that. 

 

Thanks Kamala. You did what we all expected. And more.

We’ll get you discuss that ‘utilization’ as it happens.

 

 

 

[RayC]

14 hours ago, JonnyF said:

 

The EU are massive hypocrites. Their whole ethos is based on protectionism, tariffs and trade/regulatory barriers for anyone outside their special club (especially if you dare to leave), but when someone else wants to do it they cry foul.

 

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe-congratulates-trump-amid-worries-about-his-return-white-house-2024-11-06/

 

 

 

 

Absolute tosh as usual.

 

The EU has preferential trade agreements with 70 nations, and seeks to extend that number. If Trump is true to his word, all imports to the US, irrespective of their origin, will attract tariffs. See the difference?

 

Even after leaving, the UK could have remained a member of the Single Market and Customs Union but chose not to. A decision that you supported.