Social Media Posted November 7, 2024 Posted November 7, 2024 In an exclusive interview with NBC News, President-elect Donald Trump outlined his plan for one of the largest mass deportations in U.S. history, which he said is a necessary step to fortify the country’s borders. He reiterated his campaign pledge to build a “strong and powerful” border as one of his administration's first priorities. Responding to questions about his commitment to mass deportations, Trump emphasized that his administration would have “no choice” but to implement the plan. Trump described his electoral victory over Vice President Kamala Harris as a mandate for what he called "common sense" policies. “We obviously have to make the border strong and powerful, and we have to — at the same time, we want people to come into our country,” he said. “And you know, I’m not somebody that says, ‘No, you can’t come in.’ We want people to come in.” During his campaign, Trump promised to lead the “largest deportation effort in American history.” When asked about the potential cost, he responded, “It’s not a question of a price tag. It’s not — really, we have no choice. When people have killed and murdered, when drug lords have destroyed countries, and now they’re going to go back to those countries because they’re not staying here. There is no price tag.” Details on how the administration plans to execute such an expansive deportation are still unclear. Acting ICE Director Patrick J. Lechleitner previously acknowledged in July that a mass deportation effort would present significant logistical and financial challenges. Former Trump administration officials involved in immigration policy indicated that such an initiative would necessitate cooperation across multiple federal agencies, including the Justice Department and the Pentagon, due to its scale. Despite his hardline stance on immigration, Trump’s message on border security seems to have resonated with various voter demographics. He notably garnered support among Latino voters, despite the Democrats’ attempts to highlight his rhetoric on immigration issues and a pro-Trump comedian's controversial joke about Puerto Rico. Explaining his appeal, Trump said, “They want to have borders, and they like people coming in, but they have to come in with love for the country. They have to come in legally.” Trump also emphasized the wide coalition of voters that backed him, citing increased support among young voters, women, Asian Americans, and Latino voters compared to the 2020 election. “I started to see realignment could happen because the Democrats are not in line with the thinking of the country,” he said. “You can’t have defund the police, these kinds of things. They don’t want to give up and they don’t work, and the people understand that.” Reflecting on his recent phone calls with Vice President Harris and President Joe Biden following the election, Trump spoke about moving forward with a focus on his administration’s key promises, including his immigration policies. Based on a report by NBC 2024-11-08
Cryingdick Posted November 7, 2024 Posted November 7, 2024 I am assuming the dems will fully cooperate with Trump. They said the border was his fault and his problem if they reintroduce HR 2 I am guessing the dems will be falling over themselves to sign a border bill with true teeth in it. This should be the first action congress approves. 1
thaibeachlovers Posted November 7, 2024 Posted November 7, 2024 The simplest way to achieve the objective is to go after businesses that employ illegals. If employers get a large fine for each illegal it would soon stop. Has to be coupled with making it easier for legal entry. The main thing is that legal entry does not become residency. Like Saudi, they come in, work and go home. 2
EVENKEEL Posted November 8, 2024 Posted November 8, 2024 19 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said: The simplest way to achieve the objective is to go after businesses that employ illegals. If employers get a large fine for each illegal it would soon stop. Has to be coupled with making it easier for legal entry. The main thing is that legal entry does not become residency. Like Saudi, they come in, work and go home. Growing up in Calif back in the day the pickers traveled with the crops. Their families stayed in Mexico. The pickers could make double min wage if they were fast. There was no Mexican Stores. When crops were over they returned to their families. 1 1
Popular Post thaibeachlovers Posted November 8, 2024 Popular Post Posted November 8, 2024 4 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said: Growing up in Calif back in the day the pickers traveled with the crops. Their families stayed in Mexico. The pickers could make double min wage if they were fast. There was no Mexican Stores. When crops were over they returned to their families. That's the way it should be done. I was a "guest worker" in Saudi. I stayed legally as long as I had a job. I never had an option to become a resident or bring in my aged parents to get free hospital treatment ( referring to the NHS ). There was absolutely no way I could ever have stayed illegally and worked. 1 1 1 3
Cryingdick Posted November 8, 2024 Posted November 8, 2024 Make very strict rules regarding remittances. Social security or some sort of proof you are here and have permission to send money out of the country. Set the limit very low. Sop the money going out that incentivizes illegals to send it home or worse yet pay the cartels thee owe their passage to. 1
JonnyF Posted November 8, 2024 Posted November 8, 2024 Good to see Donald going to work early. If you are in a country illegally, you go to the IDC to be processed and then you are deported. Just like normal countries such as Thailand. No bleeding heart Liberals starting court cases. No questions. You're out. Anyone assisting or employing them gets large fines. Without the illegal vote, the GOP will win even bigger next time. 1 1
herfiehandbag Posted November 8, 2024 Posted November 8, 2024 Absolutely - one simply cannot put a price tag on racial purity ( or genes)! 1 2
Cryingdick Posted November 8, 2024 Posted November 8, 2024 34 minutes ago, herfiehandbag said: Absolutely - one simply cannot put a price tag on racial purity ( or genes)! Right. Because the USA has always been known as a racially homogenous society. A massive plurality of voters across racial and ethnic lines support mass deportation. 1 2 1
JonnyF Posted November 8, 2024 Posted November 8, 2024 29 minutes ago, herfiehandbag said: Absolutely - one simply cannot put a price tag on racial purity ( or genes)! Nothing to do with race. It's about legality to remain. I don't see JD Vance deporting his non white wife. Good to see you haven't learned any lessons on the race baiting though 😄. 2
Popular Post lordgrinz Posted November 8, 2024 Popular Post Posted November 8, 2024 Take their pictures and fingerprints, confiscate all wealth in their possession, inform them that they can never become citizens because they have illegally entered. Send them back to their home countries with a bill for services rendered (to include housing, food, medical, court costs, etc), if the countries don't pay the bill, then institute higher tariffs to pay for the services. No more free ride on the US taxpayers. 1 2 1 1
Popular Post Cryingdick Posted November 8, 2024 Popular Post Posted November 8, 2024 4 minutes ago, lordgrinz said: Take their pictures and fingerprints, confiscate all wealth in their possession, inform them that they can never become citizens because they have illegally entered. Send them back to their home countries with a bill for services rendered (to include housing, food, medical, court costs, etc), if the countries don't pay the bill, then institute higher tariffs to pay for the services. No more free ride on the US taxpayers. Also take DNA samples. If you leave before caught you can leave without prejudice, at your own expense. To clarify if you leave that way you still have biometrics collected. 1 1 1
lordgrinz Posted November 8, 2024 Posted November 8, 2024 4 minutes ago, Cryingdick said: Also take DNA samples. If you leave before caught you can leave without prejudice, at your own expense. To clarify if you leave that way you still have biometrics collected. I agree, give them this one chance to self-deport to save their chance at becoming citizens in the future. We can send out a warning that this will be allowed only for a very short time, that this window (amnesty period) closes if they don't do so quickly. One more issue, is that I want to do away with anchor babies, no more birth-right citizenship. Citizenship should only be extended to babies born to at least one US citizen parent. 1 1
Cryingdick Posted November 8, 2024 Posted November 8, 2024 58 minutes ago, lordgrinz said: I agree, give them this one chance to self-deport to save their chance at becoming citizens in the future. We can send out a warning that this will be allowed only for a very short time, that this window (amnesty period) closes if they don't do so quickly. One more issue, is that I want to do away with anchor babies, no more birth-right citizenship. Citizenship should only be extended to babies born to at least one US citizen parent. You mean we make the rules in our country? You must be rasist.
Popular Post John Drake Posted November 8, 2024 Popular Post Posted November 8, 2024 Illegal alien sanctuary cities and states will try to frustrate this. If so, there are laws that Trump should be willing to apply to anyone helping illegals remain in the US. For example: Quote Harboring -- Subsection 1324(a)(1)(A)(iii) makes it an offense for any person who -- knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that an alien has come to, entered, or remains in the United States in violation of law, conceals harbors, or shields from detection, or attempts to conceal, harbor, or shield from detection, such alien in any place, including any building or any means of transportation. https://www.justice.gov/archives/jm/criminal-resource-manual-1907-title-8-usc-1324a-offenses If governors, mayors, or bureaucrats (that's you, Mayorkas) get in the way, arrest them, charge them, try them, and jail them for decades. Trump must be willing to do this. If he's not, then he's not serious and nothing will work. 2 1
Jingthing Posted November 8, 2024 Posted November 8, 2024 He has a concept of a plan on how to do this. Nobody is against deporting criminals and orderly deportations at reasonable levels in general. But this mass deportation idea is for the birds. It would devastate key sectors of the economy, grocery and restaurant prices would skyrocket, and it would tear apart millions of citizen families abandoning children as well.There will be violent resistance. For what? Fascism theater? Those who know history will recall Project Wetback. Yes racism. It's not as if they're going to target undocumented Swedes. 2 1
herfiehandbag Posted November 8, 2024 Posted November 8, 2024 2 hours ago, lordgrinz said: Take their pictures and fingerprints, confiscate all wealth in their possession, inform them that they can never become citizens because they have illegally entered. Send them back to their home countries with a bill for services rendered (to include housing, food, medical, court costs, etc), if the countries don't pay the bill, then institute higher tariffs to pay for the services. No more free ride on the US taxpayers. No more trade with countries to the south of the USA. 1
John Drake Posted November 8, 2024 Posted November 8, 2024 First step: revoke all of Biden's "paroles." 1
lordgrinz Posted November 8, 2024 Posted November 8, 2024 17 minutes ago, herfiehandbag said: No more trade with countries to the south of the USA. I would definitely put Mexico on notice, stop the state-sanctioned migration of illegals across their lands to our borders, or suffer the consequences. 1
Peabody Posted November 8, 2024 Posted November 8, 2024 Penn & Teller's 12 Mexican Generals Plan: 12 Mexican generals are each assigned a section of the border. At the end of a year, each gets 100 million USD, minus $10000 for each illegal that they prevent from crossing. Fixed in 1 week. 1
Popular Post John Drake Posted November 8, 2024 Popular Post Posted November 8, 2024 29 minutes ago, Jingthing said: He has a concept of a plan on how to do this. Nobody is against deporting criminals and orderly deportations at reasonable levels in general. But this mass deportation idea is for the birds. It would devastate key sectors of the economy, grocery and restaurant prices would skyrocket, and it would tear apart millions of citizen families abandoning children as well.There will be violent resistance. For what? Fascism theater? Those who know history will recall Project Wetback. Yes racism. It's not as if they're going to target undocumented Swedes. The country was flooded with illegal aliens over the past four years. There needs to be an equal force pushing them back to where they came from. Mass deportation will lower housing costs, make streets safer, reduce welfare and educational stress on local towns and cities, force people like the WGA to get on with robotic and mechanical planting and harvesting, reduce the carbon footprint from an already too large population, make sure infrastructure demands on water, electricity, roads, and sewage don't outstrip capacity, and prevent foreign criminal gangs from committing atrocities in cities and small towns. Of course, we could still manage to put a couple of hundred thousand or so in places like Martha's Vineyard; Alexandria, VA; Silver Springs, MD, Arlington, VA, and of course DC itself. 1 1 2
Jingthing Posted November 8, 2024 Posted November 8, 2024 30 minutes ago, herfiehandbag said: No more trade with countries to the south of the USA. That's insane.
EVENKEEL Posted November 8, 2024 Posted November 8, 2024 5 minutes ago, Jingthing said: That's insane. Please stop. Trump is just getting their attention. It's time for the southern countries to help stop the flow of illegals.
Jingthing Posted November 8, 2024 Posted November 8, 2024 3 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said: Please stop. Trump is just getting their attention. It's time for the southern countries to help stop the flow of illegals. I'm in favor of active programs in migrant source countries. More options for legal immigration as well. I doubt Trump will actually do that. He's a demagogue.
impulse Posted November 8, 2024 Posted November 8, 2024 5 hours ago, herfiehandbag said: Absolutely - one simply cannot put a price tag on racial purity ( or genes)! Maybe not, but NYC Mayor Eric Adams sure put a price tag on the services required to care for each of the city's 110,000 "newcomers". $36,000 a year per head. We cannot afford that. 1
candide Posted November 8, 2024 Posted November 8, 2024 Combined with tax cuts and tariffs, a nice way to increase inflation! 😃 1
John Drake Posted November 8, 2024 Posted November 8, 2024 6 hours ago, lordgrinz said: Take their pictures and fingerprints, confiscate all wealth in their possession, inform them that they can never become citizens because they have illegally entered. Send them back to their home countries with a bill for services rendered (to include housing, food, medical, court costs, etc), if the countries don't pay the bill, then institute higher tariffs to pay for the services. No more free ride on the US taxpayers. That sort of sounds good to me.
John Drake Posted November 8, 2024 Posted November 8, 2024 5 minutes ago, candide said: Combined with tax cuts and tariffs, a nice way to increase inflation! 😃 So the way to keep inflation down is to use near-slave labor? 1
candide Posted November 8, 2024 Posted November 8, 2024 15 minutes ago, John Drake said: So the way to keep inflation down is to use near-slave labor? I am just stating something obvious. A mass deportation as promised by Trump will result in a lot of vacant jobs. As the unemployment rate is already low, it will cause wage inflation and price inflation (businesses will increase prices because they have to pay higher wages). That's Trump main problem: his promises are in contradiction with each other. He promised to decrease inflation (which is now already low), but mass deportation, tariffs and tax cuts will increase inflation. 1
Peabody Posted November 8, 2024 Posted November 8, 2024 And Republicans are already saying they need to cutback on his promises. Some Republicans said the party would have to show some fiscal discipline. “We can’t just have it be unlimited, whatever we want to it to be,” Senator James Lankford, a Republican of Oklahoma and member of the Finance Committee, said of the cost of a tax bill next year. https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/07/us/politics/trump-fiscal-republicans.html?unlocked_article_code=1.YU4.u8S5.kwMAMdOXZyzK&smid=url-share
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