President Joe Biden's Historical Legacy is Ruined

[whitemouse]

Biden should have stepped aside much earlier, so Democrats could have run proper primary.

Biden has lots to answer for, and Trump's second term is on Biden.

The very worst period of Biden refusing to step aside was in June, after his horrendous debate performance, Biden couldn't speak, he looked like he was about to literally collapse on stage.

 

And what did Biden do? Instead of calling a press conference next morning after the debate, Biden kept insisting that he will be6st Trump. That month of Biden living in alternative universe is what crippled Kamala Harris. Biden was clinging to power, seemingly unaware that he isn't even capable of finishing a a sentence. Biden wrote to Congress Democrats that he is not about to go anywhere and will run against Trump. 

 

Has Biden ran in November, he would have possibly lost even NY. Every painful day of Biden's and Jill Biden pushibf Jõe to stay, was painful and did lasting damage to Dem ticket. Excuse, me Dr. Jill Biden.

 

Joe's legacy is clear - Joe Biden gave America and the world Donald Trump's presidency. I hope Joe can sleep at night.

Trump now has popular vote and convincing majority of electoral college, America deserves Trump. Rest of us, Ukraine, Eastern Europe, Baltic states, we didn't deserve Trump's second term.

 

Ttrump's presidecy is on Biden alone, no pussyfooting around it. His 40 year career in Washington is wiped away. He is a sad, old loser.

[steven100]

Joe Bidden legacy .....   

 

He will long be remembered for his bungled pathetic Afghanistan night pull-out of the US army which left 13 US soldiers killed and more than 170 civilians dead during the withdrawal.

 

And absolute mess and terrible decision by a US president,   instead of just a proper co-ordinated withdrawal including ALL military assets,   not just 10% .. and leaving millions of dollars worth of hardware behind for the Taliban to have for free.

 

he'll be remembered for that debacle. 

[Jingthing]

6 hours ago, Hanaguma said:

Not much of that will happen, especially now that Zelensky is on a timer to cut a deal.

 

Crimea is gone, as is at least some territory in the eastern part of the country. Reparations will never happen. Security guarantee in return for not joining NATO. It is the best he can hope for unless he wants to completely bleed his country out. 

Surrender monkey stuff Ukraine will never agree to. Vladimir thanks you.

[Jingthing]

21 minutes ago, steven100 said:

Joe Bidden legacy .....   

 

He will long be remembered for his bungled pathetic Afghanistan night pull-out of the US army which left 13 US soldiers killed and more than 170 civilians dead during the withdrawal.

 

And absolute mess and terrible decision by a US president,   instead of just a proper co-ordinated withdrawal including ALL military assets,   not just 10% .. and leaving millions of dollars worth of hardware behind for the Taliban to have for free.

 

he'll be remembered for that debacle. 

I doubt it that will be seen as significant.

[Jingthing]

54 minutes ago, whitemouse said:

Biden should have stepped aside much earlier, so Democrats could have run proper primary.

Biden has lots to answer for, and Trump's second term is on Biden.

The very worst period of Biden refusing to step aside was in June, after his horrendous debate performance, Biden couldn't speak, he looked like he was about to literally collapse on stage.

 

And what did Biden do? Instead of calling a press conference next morning after the debate, Biden kept insisting that he will be6st Trump. That month of Biden living in alternative universe is what crippled Kamala Harris. Biden was clinging to power, seemingly unaware that he isn't even capable of finishing a a sentence. Biden wrote to Congress Democrats that he is not about to go anywhere and will run against Trump. 

 

Has Biden ran in November, he would have possibly lost even NY. Every painful day of Biden's and Jill Biden pushibf Jõe to stay, was painful and did lasting damage to Dem ticket. Excuse, me Dr. Jill Biden.

 

Joe's legacy is clear - Joe Biden gave America and the world Donald Trump's presidency. I hope Joe can sleep at night.

Trump now has popular vote and convincing majority of electoral college, America deserves Trump. Rest of us, Ukraine, Eastern Europe, Baltic states, we didn't deserve Trump's second term.

 

Ttrump's presidecy is on Biden alone, no pussyfooting around it. His 40 year career in Washington is wiped away. He is a sad, old loser.

Yes Biden made a big mistake running for reelection. If Harris had won history would be kindder though.

[Cryingdick]

14 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Surrender monkey stuff Ukraine will never agree to. Vladimir thanks you.

I hope they have a plan for communications if they want to continue fighting once Musk says he won't offer them a network forever. Without Starlink they literally have no capabilities. I just got a Starlink go. $600 for the box and $165 a month. It isn't cheap Starlink isn't a charity.

[Jingthing]

56 minutes ago, Cryingdick said:

I hope they have a plan for communications if they want to continue fighting once Musk says he won't offer them a network forever. Without Starlink they literally have no capabilities. I just got a Starlink go. $600 for the box and $165 a month. It isn't cheap Starlink isn't a charity.

So you're basically saying Trump and Musk not only want Russia to win, but will be willing to help them destroy Ukraine. What a great legacy that would be for Trump.

[Cryingdick]

17 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

So you're basically saying Trump and Musk not only want Russia to win, but will be willing to help them destroy Ukraine. What a great legacy that would be for Trump.

 

I am saying Musk has no obligation to provide the brains of the Ukraine war effort forever for free of charge. The global roaming plan is actually $1,000 a month. It has limited availability. Eastern Ukraine is an extremity that is black with gangrene. In less than two years there is nobody left to fight for Ukraine. 

 

If you want to save Kyiv, you must cut the gangrene out. There is no way a war can continue with no end game, no funding, no modern communications in perpetuity. 

 

The only end is to concede territory and the killing can stop. That brings us to the cost of rebuilding. Kyiv is doable but now they are fighting over rubble in the east. If Russia takes it, thats a liability for Russia not an asset. It will be plagued with guerrilla warfare

 

 

 

Edited Sunday at 01:32 AM by Cryingdick

[mogandave]

8 hours ago, rattlesnake said:

 

Joe Biden's Daughter Ashley Confirms Legitimacy of the 'Showers with Dad' Diary Entry

Joe Biden's daughter Ashley Biden's diary, which was stolen and sold for profits, claimed horrifying details of a "hyper-sexualized" childhood.

[…]

Apparently, in one of the excerpts from the diary entry, Ashley wrote about "showering with her dad" at an inappropriate age, fear of being "sexually abused" as a young girl and so much more.

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/joe-bidens-daughter-ashley-confirms-legitimacy-of-the-showers-with-dad-diary-entry/ar-BB1pfCEm

No one on the left cares that Biden showered with his daughter, they claim it’s normal. 

 

But when asked about how attractive his daughter was, Trump says he would date he if she wasn’t his daughter, and the left goes crazy and calls him a pedo and accuses him of incest. 

 

The left projects. Their side lost because they are liars. 

 

 

[mogandave]

2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

At least Carter was a good man that was unlucky with his rescue attempt for Iranian hostage crisis. Biden is a war monger and a colluder in genocide and war crimes. Unfortunately he will never stand trial with netanyahu in the ICC.

Carter was/is a great man, and he was smart, He was just a terrible President.

[mogandave]

2 hours ago, whitemouse said:

Biden should have stepped aside much earlier, so Democrats could have run proper primary.

Biden has lots to answer for, and Trump's second term is on Biden.

The very worst period of Biden refusing to step aside was in June, after his horrendous debate performance, Biden couldn't speak, he looked like he was about to literally collapse on stage.

 

And what did Biden do? Instead of calling a press conference next morning after the debate, Biden kept insisting that he will be6st Trump. That month of Biden living in alternative universe is what crippled Kamala Harris. Biden was clinging to power, seemingly unaware that he isn't even capable of finishing a a sentence. Biden wrote to Congress Democrats that he is not about to go anywhere and will run against Trump. 

 

Has Biden ran in November, he would have possibly lost even NY. Every painful day of Biden's and Jill Biden pushibf Jõe to stay, was painful and did lasting damage to Dem ticket. Excuse, me Dr. Jill Biden.

 

Joe's legacy is clear - Joe Biden gave America and the world Donald Trump's presidency. I hope Joe can sleep at night.

Trump now has popular vote and convincing majority of electoral college, America deserves Trump. Rest of us, Ukraine, Eastern Europe, Baltic states, we didn't deserve Trump's second term.

 

Ttrump's presidecy is on Biden alone, no pussyfooting around it. His 40 year career in Washington is wiped away. He is a sad, old loser.

Right. Are we talking about the same Joe Biden that the left swooned over and compared to George Washington when he finally dropped out? 

 

Like him or not, Biden was clearly in rapid decline when he took office. None of this is on him. He should have been booted out after a year, Harris would have been President, and had the left been honest, that is what would have happened. 

[mogandave]

43 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

So you're basically saying Trump and Musk not only want Russia to win, but will be willing to help them destroy Ukraine. What a great legacy that would be for Trump.

No, that’s what you are saying. 

 

Why did no one on the left give a whit about Crimea and Donbas prior to the latest invasion? 

 

Obama refused weapons to Ukraine. 

 

Trump provided weapons to Ukraine, and sanctioned Russia

 

Biden stopped arms to Ukraine, removed Trump’s sanctions, and gave us the Afghan debacle.

 

Do you remember Biden’s comments on the Russian buildup on the border?

 

Putin had to think: “No time like the present.”

 

[Cryingdick]

A minor incursion is okay. Don't. That is the consequence of having an arrogant, senile sack of crap in charge. 

[Lacessit]

11 minutes ago, Cryingdick said:

A minor incursion is okay. Don't. That is the consequence of having an arrogant, senile sack of crap in charge. 

I don't think you realize what you have just posted.

[Tidal wave]

This is the trouble with Trump winning you get a Trump a day thread. The only thing I'm looking forward to is eating the North Koreans that he will be bound to mention early next year .  

[Cryingdick]

26 minutes ago, Tidal wave said:

This is the trouble with Trump winning you get a Trump a day thread. The only thing I'm looking forward to is eating the North Koreans that he will be bound to mention early next year .  

Cat is on the menu now.

[Cryingdick]

50 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

I don't think you realize what you have just posted.

We didn't help defend Crimea a crown jewel. We aren't going to cling onto to the eastern part of Ukraine.

[Lacessit]

2 minutes ago, Cryingdick said:

We didn't help defend Crimea a crown jewel. We aren't going to cling onto to the eastern part of Ukraine.

Diversion from my former comment.

 

The Eastern part of Ukraine is its most valuable asset in terms of agriculture. It has one quarter of the world's chernozem, rich black soil which will grow anything.

 

I seriously doubt Putin will stop there, however. He wants the Russian Federation back at the Fulda Gap.

[Nick Carter icp]

7 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Yes Biden made a big mistake running for reelection. If Harris had won history would be kindder though.

 

   If my Auntie would have had a pair of nuts, she would have been my Uncle 

[placnx]

22 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Surely that was thought about. A problem in Michigan and overall there is a good bit of antisemitism nationally. Perhaps if Gore hadn't picked a Jew he would have won. Shapiro would have pretty much guaranteed Pennsylvania. But there were other pros and cons.

Harris and Shapiro both coastal lawyers so too similar. Harris is married to a Jew so to many Americans  that would look too Jewy. One Jew maybe but when you add a mixed race woman president plus TWO Jews, mainstream America balks. Also it was thought that Walz could help with the midwesterner regular white guy working class vote. Shapiro certainly couldn't have. Perhaps most important but hard to ever know for sure, Shapiro is very alpha male, and he met with Harris and said he wanted more of a co-presidency where he had leadership on certain issues. Harris who wanted to be the first woman president couldn't stomach that. Understandably so. Remember vice presidency is a pretty awful job. Be a yes man and be a warm body if the president exits.

 

 

Reading between the lines, I can tell you that based on media I read, American Jews weren't  angry about this. Aware of it but understanding. The number one issue for American Jews in this cycle was different than other groups. No, not Israel. Saving American democracy. If Harris had good reasons to think Walz was a better bet for winning than Shapiro, then it was a reasonable choice to make. Of course neither ticket would have won. But if Biden had stayed it would have been a REAL landslide perhaps as bad as Mondale. Trump Harris wasn't actually a landslide but it was a clear solid win. 

 

If there are future elections after maga / Project 2025 has their dark way with American democracy, definitely Shapiro will be one of the potential democratic stars. He's more of a top of the ticket guy.

Aside from Project 2025, if in four years there is no two-state solution in sight and the situation in the Occupied Territories is worse, Michigan would be a serious vulnerability with a pro-Israel Jew leading the Democratic ticket. 

 

As for the 2000 election, Gore looked pretty healthy, but proposing a strident Orthodox Jew as VP was not sensible with the failure of Camp David and Ariel Sharon's subsequent provocation on the Temple Mount a few months before the election. You may remember that the pivotal state was Florida where Gore lost by 529 votes while Ralph Nader, a Lebanese-American, got 100,000 votes in that state. That seems to be quite a high number for the Greens. 

 

Harris in any case was damaged goods by being Biden's VP, and she failed to show how she would do differently and better than Biden. She did not come off as authentic to me, rather insensitive to the concerns of the people. Her resounding loss should have been no surprise.

[mogandave]

3 minutes ago, placnx said:

Harris in any case was damaged goods by being Biden's VP, and she failed to show how she would do differently and better than Biden. She did not come off as authentic to me, rather insensitive to the concerns of the people. Her resounding loss should have been no surprise.

Harris is intelligent, but lazy and ignorant and phony. Had she been honest, she’d have done much better. 

 

She was asked the softball what would you do differently, what, three times in three days and still had no answer? 

 

And we’re supposed to believe that anyone that did not vote for her is a racist and a misogynist?

 

I would vote for any black woman managing a Denny’s before Harris. 

[ModdaPunk]

On 11/8/2024 at 11:51 PM, Jingthing said:

when pretty much all economists said avoiding a recession was impossible. 

 

They were right.

The recession is coming.

 

[SunnyinBangrak]

10 hours ago, mogandave said:

No one on the left cares that Biden showered with his daughter, they claim it’s normal. 

 

But when asked about how attractive his daughter was, Trump says he would date he if she wasn’t his daughter, and the left goes crazy and calls him a pedo and accuses him of incest. 

 

The left projects. Their side lost because they are liars. 

 

 

They didn't claim it was normal. They said the diary was a hoax, even after the poor lass that found the thing was charged in court for some crime related to finding documents that showed just how depraved and perverted their tin pot god was. Remember the grief James O'Keefe got for reporting on this? The left are so diabolically dishonest....

[G_Money]

On 11/9/2024 at 9:33 AM, novacova said:

He could care less, he got to be president and he didn’t lose is all he cared about.

And Biden’s biggest mistake was Harris right from the get go.

At least he gets to keep his Corvette.  
 

Unfortunately he won’t be able to drive it.  Just go to the garage, sit in it and go vroom, vroom.

[G_Money]

1 hour ago, ModdaPunk said:

 

They were right.

The recession is coming.

 

Before or after the sky falls?

[G_Money]

So, during Biden’s “Build Back Better”, what exactly was built?

 

I must of missed it during the shi- show.

 

Was the George Floyd statue ever completed?

Edited Sunday at 12:37 PM by G_Money

[mogandave]

3 minutes ago, G_Money said:

At least he gets to keep his Corvette.  
 

Unfortunately he won’t be able to drive it.  Just go to the garage, sit in it and go vroom, vroom.

He has a lot more room in the garage now with all those pesky boxes og classified documents gone.

[G_Money]

Just now, mogandave said:

He has a lot more room in the garage now with all those pesky boxes og classified documents gone.

Not so sure.  He might be taking boxes more when he leaves the White House.

[Jingthing]

2 hours ago, ModdaPunk said:

 

They were right.

The recession is coming.

 

So it will be Trump's recession then, that is after he falsely claims credit for the current Biden economy, which is one of the best U.S. economies in history.

[proton]

12 hours ago, Jingthing said:

I doubt it that will be seen as significant.

 

What will be is the millions of illegal immigrants, woke nonsense, high inflation and skyrocketing crime rate. The Biden/Harris legacy is only one of abject failure and lies.