Thailand plans 14 new floating solar farms to boost renewable energy

[josephbloggs]

25 minutes ago, NoDisplayName said:

 

Sorry to piss in your fish sauce, pal.

There's an ignore button.

I invite you to use it.

Where would be the fun in that?

[ModdaPunk]

Paid for by inflation in the West

[nauseus]

15 hours ago, WDSmart said:

There is no such thing as "renewable" or "green" energy. Those are just marketing terms. All technology, especially "energy-creating" technology, pollutes and costs more energy than it ever makes available for human use. No technology "creates" energy; it just harvests existing energy from one source, usually converts it, and then makes it available for human use in another source. Good examples of these are both solar and wind-powered energy technologies. 

 

Well make your mind up for flocks sake!

 

A good idea, at least to test out. Might get more fish lurking underneath too - they like the shade.  

[Kinnock]

17 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I don't think there is a Thai word for "maintenance".

การซ่อมบำรุง

[Bobthegimp]

23 hours ago, pattayasan said:

Cheapest energy production method in the world

 

Another AN poster just making s hit up.  Oil is still king. Do carry on though. 

[redwood1]

For anyone who does not know floating solar is only a few years old....

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floating_solar

 

The whole idea is just a bad one......

 

Their main selling point is it saves land.....lol.......Like land is in short supply.....lol

 

Just as sure as the sun come up....Water or drought or storms will destroy these white elephant water solar farms one by one by one........This is for sure.... 

 

You sure dont see most of the world rushing out to build these silly things.....And for good reason...

These solar panels will be sitting right next to the wind turbines in the junkyard.. 

Edited November 15 by redwood1

[patman30]

what a horrible idea, but at least they are not taking farm land
although then there would be less sugar cane waste burning so that could be a plus

All these dumb solar farm plans that usually flop after a while
why not just make EVERY building install solar first?
if they actually wanted to make positive change that does not damage more of the environment

The "Green" mentality of
we must damage the environment to save the environment
is quite bizarre

 

 

Edited November 15 by patman30

[josephbloggs]

2 hours ago, redwood1 said:

For anyone who does not know floating solar is only a few years old....

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floating_solar

 

The whole idea is just a bad one......

 

Their main selling point is it saves land.....lol.......Like land is in short supply.....lol

 

Just as sure as the sun come up....Water or drought or storms will destroy these white elephant water solar farms one by one by one........This is for sure.... 

 

You sure dont see most of the world rushing out to build these silly things.....And for good reason...

These solar panels will be sitting right next to the wind turbines in the junkyard.. 

No, definitely the rest of the world is not interested. Apart from China which has several MASSIVE floating solar farms. But apart form that it is only Thailand. Oh, and Portugal. And Singapore. And South Korea. And America. And India. And Germany, Japan and Vietnam. But definitely no one else.

[NoDisplayName]

Unburdened by hubs........

 

 

‘World’s largest’ offshore solar project now operational off coast of China

... expected to generate 1.78 billion kilowatt-hours of power annually – enough to meet the needs of approximately 2.67 million urban residents...

https://eandt.theiet.org/2024/11/15/worlds-largest-offshore-solar-project-now-operational-coast-china

 

What do they do during monsoon season?

[Puccini]

On 11/13/2024 at 10:28 AM, snoop1130 said:

The Electricity Generating Authority of Thailand (EGAT) is pushing forward with the development of 14 new floating solar farm projects as part of its strategic efforts to increase renewable energy production. These projects, with a combined capacity of 2,656 megawatts, are set to be constructed on the reservoirs of seven hydroelectric dams...

 

That's the way to go. In the same location, hydroelectric and solar energy generation.

 

Forget nuclear power plants.

[redwood1]

2 hours ago, NoDisplayName said:

Unburdened by hubs........

 

 

‘World’s largest’ offshore solar project now operational off coast of China

... expected to generate 1.78 billion kilowatt-hours of power annually – enough to meet the needs of approximately 2.67 million urban residents...

https://eandt.theiet.org/2024/11/15/worlds-largest-offshore-solar-project-now-operational-coast-china

 

What do they do during monsoon season?

 

Watch all their work get destroyed.....lol

[thaibeachlovers]

On 11/14/2024 at 1:39 PM, thaibeachlovers said:

No part of Thailand I spent time in had a reliable wind strong enough to generate a good f**t.

I suspect the real reason for wind farms in LOS is to generate lotsacash for the usual suspects.

OOPS. Senior moment there, unfortunately. Obviously solar doesn't need wind. I was confusing solar with wind.

Sorry about that.

[thaibeachlovers]

4 hours ago, NoDisplayName said:

enough to meet the needs of approximately 2.67 million urban residents...

What are the other 1,416,109,356 Chinese going to use? Presumably coal and nuclear.

[thaibeachlovers]

On 11/15/2024 at 7:13 AM, Kinnock said:

การซ่อมบำรุง

It was sarcasm.

[NoDisplayName]

6 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

OOPS. Senior moment there, unfortunately. Obviously solar doesn't need wind. I was confusing solar with wind.

Sorry about that.

 

Oh, geeze!  Now you've done it!

 

If they read this, they'll declare Thailand to be "Hub of Solar Winds"!

[Srikcir]

On 11/14/2024 at 7:39 AM, thaibeachlovers said:

No part of Thailand I spent time in had a reliable wind strong enough to generate a good f**t.

There are wind maps of Thailand to see where there is sufficient diurnal stability and wind speeds to provide consistent maximum electrical production. Those I reviewed showed bare minimum (less the turbine is just a hair dryer) in the northern Thailand regions targeted for many wind turbine farms (aside from Phuket that ranks among the windiest places in Thailand). "Bare minimum" means less than rated capacity. "Less" means inefficient electric production.¹ But efficient electric production doesn't seem to be the criteria, maybe it's the generation of government funds that's the goal.

And perhaps in terms of dependable operation at rated capacity explains the current governments' plan to focus on solar energy production on the country's lakes backed by dams.

 

¹"Attempts at producing wind resource maps of Thailand all faced the problem of shortage in wind speed data, especially offshore and at high elevations... Thailand has relatively low average wind speeds with most areas being of class 1-1.4 wind speed, or about 2.8–4 m/s measured at 10 m. This is because Thailand is near the equator which has generally low wind speed.[4] In general, Thailand's inland winds are sub-par, but there are areas with topography such as mountain ranges, canyons, and slopes that help increase wind speeds."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wind_power_in_Thailand

 

[Muhendis]

On 11/14/2024 at 10:47 AM, WDSmart said:

Most of them are egrs in the form of heat. 

Not really a problem with solar. The heat is not caused by the panels so much as the sun shining on them.

Panels mounted over water have much of that heat removed by the cooler water.

This makes the panels more efficient but I suspect you know all this basic stuff already.

[Zack61]

On 11/14/2024 at 9:01 AM, WDSmart said:

There is no such thing as "renewable" or "green" energy. Those are just marketing terms. All technology, especially "energy-creating" technology, pollutes and costs more energy than it ever makes available for human use. No technology "creates" energy; it just harvests existing energy from one source, usually converts it, and then makes it available for human use in another source. Good examples of these are both solar and wind-powered energy technologies. 

Perhaps “sustainable “ energy might be a better description. As an added benefit it may reduce the evaporation and protect against the loss of precious water resources.

I see them quite a bit in the north operating on a small scale and usually sitting atop large ponds or small lakes and dams. A step in the right direction for a country poor in the required natural resources to produce electricity. The future of energy generation is changing and, I for one, am glad to see the initiative being taken here. Quite unlike some other richer countries who refuse to embrace and promote alternatives. Despite many shortcomings of the Thai political system they do get on with the job of providing necessary infrastructure to progress themselves into a better future. 
 

[RamblingOn]

On 11/14/2024 at 7:37 AM, ravip said:

Did you manage to find out all the details about this project?

Most probably not!!!!!

[Zack61]

On 11/16/2024 at 5:20 AM, thaibeachlovers said:

OOPS. Senior moment there, unfortunately. Obviously solar doesn't need wind. I was confusing solar with wind.

Sorry about that.

I’ll forgive you this time….

[thaibeachlovers]

8 minutes ago, Zack61 said:

I’ll forgive you this time….

Much obliged.

[thaibeachlovers]

1 hour ago, Muhendis said:

Not really a problem with solar. The heat is not caused by the panels so much as the sun shining on them.

Panels mounted over water have much of that heat removed by the cooler water.

This makes the panels more efficient but I suspect you know all this basic stuff already.

I visited the Saudi solar research facility in the 90s and the problem they had with solar was the panels got too hot, so they had to cool them.

[pattayasan]

2 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I visited the Saudi solar research facility in the 90s and the problem they had with solar was the panels got too hot, so they had to cool them.

 

Put them right off, they won't do that again.

 

The latest Saudi Arabia solar power project is part of a massive $US100 billion investment in solar energy which will deliver an estimated 41 GW of renewable energy by 2032. According to this 21/1/2014 SMH article, Saudi company Abdul Latif Jameel has teamed up with Spain’s Fotowatio Renewable Ventures in a three-year venture to build solar power plants worth $US130 million each in the desert kingdom and the Gulf region.

 

https://www.solarquotes.com.au/blog/solar-narks-worst-nightmare-saudi-arabia-solar-power-project-ushers-renewable-era/

[Muhendis]

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I visited the Saudi solar research facility in the 90s and the problem they had with solar was the panels got too hot, so they had to cool them.

Yes I'm not surprised.

There are cooling kits on the market which, as well as cooling the panels will also supply hot water. These come as a sort of copper pipe looped backward and forwards in contact with the rear of the panel.

Another trick is to sprinkle the panels with water all day and recirculate it with a gutter arrangement but with this the water needs to be kept free of dirt and minerals which could stain the panels and thus reduce the light hitting the solar cells.

[Jing Joe]

On 11/14/2024 at 11:47 AM, john donson said:

maybe the heat will release lots of micro plastics in the water... we all know how healthy that is, right

 

Potentially wrong if the plastic floatation  method is logically on the cool water, AND depending on design the closer the panels are to the cooling influence of the water the more efficient they are, AND because of virtually no inclination there's  more power on certain cloudy days, AND can actually generate some power after sunset from the re-radiation off the underside of clouds overhead. I get that often.

If panels actually get hot, they can be sprayed cool to wash off any  settling dust on  them.

Edited Sunday at 09:15 AM by Jing Joe
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[Jing Joe]

And and and   theres plans for battery banks in the 4 minute video that was poseted on page 1. 

[RT555]

They will be sitting on the bottom in a couple years.........coz not enough brown envelopes.

[digger70]

On 11/14/2024 at 9:43 AM, Eric Loh said:

Renewable energy and green energy are technical terms; not marketing term. It refers to energy from natural source in a way that doesn't harm the environment. 

What does produce the So called Renewable/GreenPower? 

Everything that makes the power is Made by input of fossil Fuel,Right.

There's No Green /Renewable Power ,only .some  Dirty Grey power .

[josephbloggs]

14 hours ago, RT555 said:

They will be sitting on the bottom in a couple years.........coz not enough brown envelopes.

What does that even mean? You trotted out the most tired old cliche on this forum and you couldn't even make it make sense.

[RT555]

4 hours ago, josephbloggs said:

What does that even mean? You trotted out the most tired old cliche on this forum and you couldn't even make it make sense.

Can't help if ur thick.