Why are many people so partisan?

[connda]

On 11/14/2024 at 9:11 AM, OneMoreFarang said:

We all have our preferences and there is nothing wrong with that.

But it seems many people, in this forum and elsewhere, see their own side only as good and the others only as bad.

 

Trump hired Musk to make the US government more efficient.

I would have though everybody should be delighted by such a move. Or is there anybody out there who does not think the US and many other governments waste too much money?

 

If the DEMs would have created such a department, I guess many DEM voters would be delighted. But now, it seems many DEMs and the DEM media don't like this at all.

Why is it so difficult to agree that a good idea is a good idea, even if the others came up with this idea?

One can argue if Musk has some conflicts of interests. But that doesn't change the fact that it would be great to save lots of tax-payers money. 

 

The above is just one example. It seems to apply to many supporters of many political parties all over the world.

The vocal majority are binary ideologues. 

In the case of Trump:

One side - Anything Trump does and anything associated with Trump is 100% bad, and if you hate Trump you're good.
The other side - Everything Trump does is good any anything associated with Trump is good, and anyone who criticizes Trump is bad.
It actually boils down to, everything you like is good and everything you don't like is bad.  Binary ideologues simply can't see past one side of an issue.  This is why the term, disinformation, is embraced.  Anything that doesn't agree with how you see things is "disinformation and should be censored.

In my own humble opinion, binary ideologues are a danger to humanity as a whole.

[OneMoreFarang]

21 minutes ago, Anthony mellows said:

Musk is getting alot of the limelight.Donald won't like that.Could be a falling out soon.

 

It is almost impossible that there won't be problems between them. I wait to get the popcorn out for that show.

[BangkokReady]

I think it's a natural thing.  What has happened to Western people, particularly English speaking ones, is that we've had things like national/racial/ethnic pride kind of stripped away from us.  Wokeism, progressivism, or whatever you want to call it, has kind of stripped away our sense of group identity, and the only place it remains is in political allegiances.

 

In the past, we would have probably been a lot like the Thais, looking after our fellow countrymen first, being wary of foreigners, feeling no shame about giving preferential treatment to our own kind, and so on.  Now that is all highly taboo.

[TheFishman1]

And look who Trump wants to put in as the Head of Health  that wacky Kennedy who 10 years ago or more saw a dead bear cub put it in the back of his van then drove around and forgot about it then realized he still had it and dumped it in New York Central Park and he said that he forget things cause he had a brain worm and this is a guy who is against any type of vaccination what a whack job 

[OneMoreFarang]

32 minutes ago, bangadang said:

 He's trolling again. He has been super rude and divisive, annent Trump and Trump voters, then comes on here and says, "Why all the division"?  This board is very left wing but it does not reflect the country thank God.

 

Please tell me again why it is a good idea to vote for a narcistic serial liar convicted criminal?

If you like the GOP politics, why not vote for someone who is not a convicted criminal?

It is stupid to vote for a criminal serial liar to lead a country. That is obvious to most of us.

[Yellowtail]

2 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

 

Please tell me again why it is a good idea to vote for a narcistic serial liar convicted criminal?

If you like the GOP politics, why not vote for someone who is not a convicted criminal?

It is stupid to vote for a criminal serial liar to lead a country. That is obvious to most of us.

The people that support him, generally believe the charges against him are made up, and while he is bullsh*tter, and he exaggerates, he does not lie about things of importance. And everyone that is honest, that speaks Englis, and that is paying attention knows the left lies about him incessantly, and they never get called out.

 

What do you see is the most egregious lie Trump has told? 

[save the frogs]

10 minutes ago, TheFishman1 said:

And look who Trump wants to put in as the Head of Health  that wacky Kennedy who 10 years ago or more saw a dead bear cub put it in the back of his van then drove around and forgot about it then realized he still had it and dumped it in New York Central Park and he said that he forget things cause he had a brain worm and this is a guy who is against any type of vaccination what a whack job 

 

Last I read, he wants to ban chemicals in US foods that are already banned in the EU.

I never met anyone who wants more chemicals in their food.

 

 

 

[clokwise]

I stopped being partisan when i realized my vote literally doesn't count - and not just because I live in Thailand. Yes, I know I can register to vote using my old home address, but I don't even bother to register. I'm sick of people personally hating me and arguing that I MUST vote, and why every vote counts blah blah blah. No, actually, that is not true. Explain to me how one more vote (D or R doesn't matter) cast in West Hollywood California is going to change anything - ANYTHING. It won't. Millions of people still living in America sat out the election for the exact same reason. If I had lived in a swing state, that's another story. If they get rid of the EC and made it a straight up vote, I'll be thrilled to vote for the first time ever, but until then, nope.

Plus, I have no skin in the game. I escaped the USA when I was 18, have never paid US taxes, have never voted, I don't collect govt benefits, and my US passport expired ages ago. My closest relatives are either dead, nearly dead, or escaped just like I did, long ago. Now that weed is legal here, I have absolutely no reason to return to the US. It's heartbreaking what America is about to go through (and put the entire world through), but their political system is thoroughly corrupt and utterly broken. The only solution would be a revolution and a new constitution (that's of course assuming the good guys win the revolution). But I'm betting on aliens appearing and putting us all to work as their slaves long before America can fix itself.

[save the frogs]

5 minutes ago, clokwise said:

The only solution would be a revolution and a new constitution (that's of course assuming the good guys win the revolution).

who do you suggest runs the country? you and your pals? 

what makes you so confident you can do a better job?

what are your credentials?

 

[blaze master]

2 hours ago, BigStar said:

 

Great appointment. Clean up the corruption, curtail the obesity epidemic, etc.

 

 

 

He looks so unhealthy compared to the last lady.

[BruceWayne]

2 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

You claimed Biden's cabinet is 100% Israel first, which is ridiculous, and then to "prove" it, you point out Jews in the administration. 

 

Again, if Biden's cabinet 100% Israel first, the conflict would have been over by now, and Biden would never have removed the sanctions on Iran. 

 

I never accused you of claiming 100% of Biden's cabinet was Jewish. 

 

My mistake - Bidens cabinet was just under 70% jewish 

BU

Key positions ALL Jews (Treaury, Defece, Health etc.

 

Would post the graphic again but someone obvs doesn't like inconvenient truths so would prolly delete it again.

 

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Edited 3 hours ago by BruceWayne

[BruceWayne]

1 hour ago, BangkokReady said:

I think it's a natural thing.  What has happened to Western people, particularly English speaking ones, is that we've had things like national/racial/ethnic pride kind of stripped away from us.  Wokeism, progressivism, or whatever you want to call it, has kind of stripped away our sense of group identity, and the only place it remains is in political allegiances.

 

In the past, we would have probably been a lot like the Thais, looking after our fellow countrymen first, being wary of foreigners, feeling no shame about giving preferential treatment to our own kind, and so on.  Now that is all highly taboo.

 

Exactly.  4x2 Ish media pushing white guilt and gimmigration

 

In group preference (aka racism) is NORMAL - it's why chimps don't hang around with orangutans etc in natural settings but whites are expected to ignore all that and bend over for everyone else so we can 'virtue signal' 🙄

 

 

[clokwise]

2 hours ago, save the frogs said:

who do you suggest runs the country? you and your pals? 

what makes you so confident you can do a better job?

what are your credentials?

 

What is wrong with you? Where did I say I wanted to get into politics? I said precisely the opposite - I don't give a sh!t about US politics. Your reaction to my comment says everything I need to know about you. Say whatever you want to me now I won't see it, you're on my morons ignore list.

[save the frogs]

2 minutes ago, clokwise said:

 

What is wrong with you? Where did I say I wanted to get into politics? I said precisely the opposite - I don't give a sh!t about US politics. Your reaction to my comment says everything I need to know about you. Say whatever you want to me now I won't see it, you're on my morons ignore list.

 

No, please don't put me on ignore.

Sorry, maybe I was a bit too rough around the edges. 

[AlexRich]

12 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Didn't I read insulin meds are already 10x the price in the USA than anywhere else in the world? 

I believe Biden put a $35 cap on insulin for seniors. It was just an example of the type of things that might follow a gutting of the US public sector. The point being that the consequences, none of which we know yet, will probably hit the poor harder. And Trump’s base support tend to be poorer. 

[AlexRich]

13 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Who really understands Elon Musk.

Who was ever in the situation to be the richest man on earth and know how that feels?

I have some ideas about that guy. But do I understand him? No. And I am pretty sure I am not alone.

I think Musk dreams of a world controlled by rich/smart guys like himself. I think his natural instincts are authoritarian. He makes a big play about free speech but not when the criticism is directed at him. He grew up in Apartheid South Africa, and I think that system suits him fine. 

[mogandave]

36 minutes ago, AlexRich said:

I think Musk dreams of a world controlled by rich/smart guys like himself. I think his natural instincts are authoritarian. He makes a big play about free speech but not when the criticism is directed at him. He grew up in Apartheid South Africa, and I think that system suits him fine. 

And you dream of a world controlled by rich leftists, yes?