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[Lacessit]

1 hour ago, dinsdale said:

Did they design it for the last one?

I did use the word "If" to start my post.

 

There are two competing theories:

 

Mutation of an existing virus in a Wuhan meat market via species transfer.

 

Accidental result of experimentation with viruses in a Wuhan laboratory.

 

The truth may never be known, due to CCP censorship.

 

I very much doubt it was the result of deliberate design and release. While the true death toll in China is estimated to be millions, the total lockdown of Chinese cities resulted in enormous economic damage.

 

 

[dinsdale]

3 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

I very much doubt it was the result of deliberate design and release. While the true death toll in China is estimated to be millions, the total lockdown of Chinese cities resulted in enormous economic damage.

 

You always conflate these two issues. Gain of function research on bat coronaviruses and deliberate release are obviously not mutually inclusive. I also doubt it was intentional release but I am in no doubt it's not zoonotic. There is ZERO evidence for zoonotic transfer.

[Lacessit]

1 hour ago, dinsdale said:

You always conflate these two issues. Gain of function research on bat coronaviruses and deliberate release are obviously not mutually inclusive. I also doubt it was intentional release but I am in no doubt it's not zoonotic. There is ZERO evidence for zoonotic transfer.

Rabies and Ebola are both zoonotic.

 

There were all kinds of wild meats in the Wuhan market. About 38 species, kept in ideal cross infection conditions.

 

I said there were competing hypotheses re the origin of COVID. I'm keeping an open mind.

[dinsdale]

1 minute ago, Lacessit said:

Rabies and Ebola are both zoonotic.

 

There were all kinds of wild meats in the Wuhan market. About 38 species, kept in ideal cross infection conditions.

 

I said there were competing hypotheses re the origin of COVID. I'm keeping an open mind.

I'm not talking about rabies or Ebola. I'm saying that there is zero evidence for a zoonotic transfer of a bat coronavirus, a virus that was already adapted to be highly infectious to humans, came from the wet market in Wuhan. I still don't understand why the CCP would destroy evidence in the Wuhan Institute and yet be unable to provide any evidence of it originating from zoonosis in only one particular place, that place being a Wuhan wet market.

An interesting document from EcoHealth gained under FOI seeking funding for what is obviously gain of function research.

 

"According to leaked documents made public by the investigative group DRASTIC in September 2021, the EHA requested in its proposal a total $14,209,245 over 3.5 years ($8,411,546 for phase 1 and $5,797,699 for phase 2).

The EHA proposed injecting chimeric bat coronaviruses collected by researchers at the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV) into “batified” mice and humanised mice genetically altered to express the human ACE-2 receptor."

 

"Recombinant viruses will be recovered in Vero cls, or in mouse cells over-expressing. human, bat or civet ACE2 receptors to support cultivation of viruses with a weaker RBD-human ACE2 interface."

 

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/21066966-defuse-proposal

https://changingtimes.media/2024/01/19/scientists-say-ecohealth-alliances-defuse-proposal-was-a-blueprint-for-sars-cov-2/