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This office is located in Jomtien.

Just called in for information 

The 1st stage is to obtain a TIN (Taxation Identity  Number)

 

For this copies of passport entries are required plus a TM30

 

English -it seems is not spoken here.

 

 

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3 hours ago, Delight said:

This office is located in Jomtien.

Just called in for information 

The 1st stage is to obtain a TIN (Taxation Identity  Number)

 

For this copies of passport entries are required plus a TM30

 

English -it seems is not spoken here.

 

 

I went to the tax office in Kamphaeng Phet yesterday with my Thai wife on a similar task.

 

That office said to come back after January 1st with a 12 month bank statement and they coud proceed from there.

 

As my wife did all the talking, I have no idea if they speak English.

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I got my TIN from the Hat Yai revenue office today. They were somewhat confused when I didn't have a work permit. After some explaining and about 15 minutes of the clerk looking on the internet, I got a nod of the head and my application was processed. I submitted a completed application form, copy of passport ID page and current extension, plus a copy of the TM30. Friendly office, no queues, no English spoken.

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7 hours ago, Delight said:

English -it seems is not spoken here.

 

Used to be very limited when I last went 4/5 years ago but some could certainly speak and understand enough to get things done.

Was a more confident English speaker in the back office on the 4th Floor where I had to go once to confirm no income before they would process my tax withholding reclaim.

 

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3 hours ago, Moonlover said:

I'm waiting, with baited breath to hear how many others are rushing to TRD offices around the country.

 

This taxation business came up, for the very first time on a local forum up here in NE Issan last week. Nobody knew anything about it! So I'm guessing there won't be a stampede around here.

 

I first read about it on AN months ago when Mike Lister first started the thread.

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I have dealt with the Jomtien revenue office for a few years already, to claim back withholding taxes and other things.

My documents for claim back withholding taxes are filled in by the staff on the ground floor, and on other occasions I had to go to the legal department and the department that handles the returns, both are located on the 4th floor.
I have always been served in English. Same for the tax revenue office in the Amphur Banglamung building, they speak English

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5 minutes ago, JimTripper said:

Fuk 'em. Lay low until you are forced to go in. That way at least you will have the satisfaction of knowing they are doing something right.

I'm taking that as a kind of sarcasm.

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20 hours ago, billd766 said:

I went to the tax office in Kamphaeng Phet yesterday with my Thai wife on a similar task.

 

That office said to come back after January 1st with a 12 month bank statement and they coud proceed from there.

 

As my wife did all the talking, I have no idea if they speak English.

 

Similar to Udon Thani except they insisted all paperwork be completed and filed in their office and the TIN would be issued after their assessment and only if any tax owed was paid. If no tax was owed then no TIN would be issued.

 

20 hours ago, Stocky said:

I got my TIN from the Hat Yai revenue office today. They were somewhat confused when I didn't have a work permit. After some explaining and about 15 minutes of the clerk looking on the internet, I got a nod of the head and my application was processed. I submitted a completed application form, copy of passport ID page and current extension, plus a copy of the TM30. Friendly office, no queues, no English spoken.

 

So they had to look at the internet before being able to do what they're trained and paid to do. At least they issued the TIN. Well done.

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13 hours ago, Jingthing said:

For the record, for those of us who are tax resident, don't work here or have a business in Thailand, who haven't filed a tax return before in Thailand, I personally think it's a massive folly and basically asking for trouble to go out of your way to get into the tax system here by applying for a TIN at this time.

At a later date, perhaps years from now, things might be different but that's my opinion for NOW and yes I know that many people will vehemently disagree with me. 

The problem with that approach is that they may prosecute me>

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14 hours ago, Jingthing said:

For the record, for those of us who are tax resident, don't work here or have a business in Thailand, who haven't filed a tax return before in Thailand, I personally think it's a massive folly and basically asking for trouble to go out of your way to get into the tax system here by applying for a TIN at this time.

At a later date, perhaps years from now, things might be different but that's my opinion for NOW and yes I know that many people will vehemently disagree with me. 

 

For the record, I am married and living but not working in Thailand.

 

My UK offshore bank requires me to prove that I am non-UK tax domiciled by presenting them with a TIN from the revenue department of the country where I claim I am domiciled. The reality of "I am not liable for taxation anywhere" is no longer an option and results in the account being either 'resticted' or closed.

 

The UK offshore bank's KYC (know your customer) regulations are driven by their requirment to comply with the edicts of the US banking industry while Thailand's latest tax grab is driven by their wish to become a full member of the OECD.

 

Catch 22

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22 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

 

For the record, I am married and living but not working in Thailand.

 

My UK offshore bank requires me to prove that I am non-UK tax domiciled by presenting them with a TIN from the revenue department of the country where I claim I am domiciled. The reality of "I am not liable for taxation anywhere" is no longer an option and results in the account being either 'resticted' or closed.

 

The UK offshore bank's KYC (know your customer) regulations are driven by their requirment to comply with the edicts of the US banking industry while Thailand's latest tax grab is driven by their wish to become a full member of the OECD.

 

Catch 22

Yes, that would obviously be a reason to get a Thai TIN.

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21 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

The UK offshore bank's KYC (know your customer) regulations are driven by their requirment to comply with the edicts of the US banking industry while Thailand's latest tax grab is driven by their wish to become a full member of the OECD.

 

You can still see from the comments above. too many people have no idea where or why this is coming, or where it is  being driven from.

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3 hours ago, NanLaew said:

 

For the record, I am married and living but not working in Thailand.

 

My UK offshore bank requires me to prove that I am non-UK tax domiciled by presenting them with a TIN from the revenue department of the country where I claim I am domiciled. The reality of "I am not liable for taxation anywhere" is no longer an option and results in the account being either 'resticted' or closed.

 

The UK offshore bank's KYC (know your customer) regulations are driven by their requirment to comply with the edicts of the US banking industry while Thailand's latest tax grab is driven by their wish to become a full member of the OECD.

 

Catch 22

 

Not really a Catch 22 , just standard banking KYC. There are multiple ways to approach this. Let me give you 3: 

 

  • You can get a TIN ( agents start at 3000 THB for the service or you can try yourself) , and then provide it to your UK offshore Bank. That doesn't mean you need to pay any tax in Thailand, nor that you are liable for any tax. 
  • You can give your UK offshore bank any 13 digit number as your TIN. They will not do any validation on it. I'm not recommending this, but I do believe it would be possible, and IMO would be no further questions asked.
  • Some foreign banks will also accept 'Am tax resident but do not yet have a Tax number'. Yours may not, but many do. 

 

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23 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Just for laughs, perhaps organize a super fun FLASH MOB where tens of thousands of local non -Thai speaking retired folks (do not bring Thai parners!), many in wheelchairs, some wheezing and coughing (no masks), all in beach wear, the vast majority will end up owing no tax anyway, to show up on one special day to demand their TINs! When they make it clear they don't speak English -- no promlema -- speak English MUCH LOUDER. Make incoherent hand gestures. Be sure the press including the INTERNATIONAL PRESS is notified. Good idea?

Good idea, and remember to wear wife beaters and sit with legs crossed, pointing the sole to the officers, this is what they hate the most. orput feet on a table.

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2 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Good idea, and remember to wear wife beaters and sit with legs crossed, pointing the sole to the officers, this is what they hate the most. orput feet on a table.

Great input but I would draw the line at showing some sack. 

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