Sleep aid for a long flight

[TimBKK]

I have a very long flight next week - Hong Kong to Boston, 15+ hours - and am looking for something that I can buy at a local pharmacy in Pattaya, or maybe online, to help get some sleep on the plane.  
 

Nothing cannabis related though, I dont want to mess with Hong Kong customs

 

Any recommendations?  🙏

 

Mods - not sure if this is the correct forum?  

[OJAS]

Some decent earplugs might go a long way to ensuring that you spend most your upcoming flight in the land of nod. My personal recommendation are Boots Mouldable Wax Earplugs which thusfar I've only been able to obtain during occasional trips back to the UK (my home country). But they now appear to be available online here in Thailand!😀

 

https://store.boots.co.th/products/บู๊ทส์-ฟาร์มาซูติคอลส์-ที่อุดหูแบบขี้ผึ้ง-5-คู่/5ff563031ab13d187c4d913e

 

Edited November 20 by OJAS

[Hummin]

5 valium 5mg have been great for me, I get them at Bangkok hospital for 2k included dr fee, only two each flight, and one for the jetleg when I arrive back home if not straight of offshore. 

 

I know this was not what you asked for, but thats one of the few "legal" ways of doing it, with something that actually works. 

 

My recipee my experience, and should not be taken as an advise. One redvine for the food, and one cognac after, one bottle of water, two valium, do your needed restroom duties,  and sleep 

[scottiejohn]

18 minutes ago, Hummin said:

5 valium 5mg have been great for me, I get them at Bangkok hospital for 2k included dr fee, only two each flight, and one for the jetleg when I arrive back home if not straight of offshore. 

 

I know this was not what you asked for, but thats one of the few "legal" ways of doing it, with something that actually works. 

 

My recipee my experience, and should not be taken as an advise. One redvine for the food, and one cognac after, one bottle of water, two valium, do your needed restroom duties,  and sleep 

And what happens in an emergency when you are zonked out?

[Hummin]

22 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

And what happens in an emergency when you are zonked out?

You do not get zonked our, but an God idea to take 5mg first and if you wake up, drink some water, 5 mg more, another needed restroom visit, and back to sleep

[0ffshore360]

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[Hummin]

Just want to warn those who think it is a great idea to buy the blue 10mg at pharmacy without an Dr prescription, you risk trouble both when leaving the country, and also arriving your destination with valium. I know many do, but on your own risk.

 

From "backyard pharmacies", you most likely get counterfeit diazepam (valium) which is quite normal in Thailand. 

 

 

[gargamon]

Fly business. Lie flat seats. Problem solved.

[richard_smith237]

8 minutes ago, gargamon said:

Fly business. Lie flat seats. Problem solved.

 

No really, beds are hard - still a problem...   Fly First Class - Problem solved... 

 

Or...  get realistic - not everyone flys business class, so your of cuff remark is pathetic and serves no purpose.

 

 

Best info has been provided for the Op..  get a prescribed sleeping aid. 

Another option is Melatonin, which works better for some than others.

 

 

[scottiejohn]

48 minutes ago, Hummin said:

ust want to warn those who think it is a great idea to buy the blue 10mg at pharmacy without an Dr prescription, you risk trouble both when leaving the country, and also arriving your destination with valium. I know many do, but on your own risk.

And also the risk you would to others if you taken them and an emergancy subsequently happened! 

[Ralf001]

10mg of Xanax does it for me on long hauls.

[richard_smith237]

1 minute ago, scottiejohn said:

And also the risk you would to others if you taken them and an emergancy subsequently happened! 

 

Its a bit of a myth that these substances completely knock you out and potentially make you a liability in an emergency - suggesting so is a little sanctimonious.

 

Medication such as this just 'takes the edge off ' - so that once you are asleep the things that might otherwise disturb you tend not to...   the cabin noises, someone knocking your seat, a little turbulence etc'... that just doesn't disturb you...

 

... but, if a passenger who's taken such a 'sleep aid' needed the bathroom etc they'd have no issues... they can still get up and go... If something serious occurs they'll can wake up and can respond without issue.

 

From that perspective, this is perhaps better than someone getting blind drunk so they can sleep.

 

 

[Rampant Rabbit]

2 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

No really, beds are hard - still a problem...   Fly First Class - Problem solved... 

 

Or...  get realistic - not everyone flys business class, so your of cuff remark is pathetic and serves no purpose.

 

 

Best info has been provided for the Op..  get a prescribed sleeping aid. 

Another option is Melatonin, which works better for some than others.

 

 

Not  really, last time I flew First the  tv was broken........on Emirates in the A380, complained and got a free  flight next time.............private jet, way to go!!

[richard_smith237]

8 minutes ago, Rampant Rabbit said:

Not  really, last time I flew First the  tv was broken........on Emirates in the A380, complained and got a free  flight next time.............private jet, way to go!!

 

Topics about sleeping on a flight - not watching TV or bragging about flying business or First.

[Rampant Rabbit]

4 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

Topics about sleeping on a flight - not watching TV or bragging about flying business or First.

wind yer neck in as thats exactly what I thought when u responded with your business  class quote about lie flat beds being hard

[harryviking]

12 hours ago, Hummin said:

5 valium 5mg have been great for me, I get them at Bangkok hospital for 2k included dr fee, only two each flight, and one for the jetleg when I arrive back home if not straight of offshore. 

 

I know this was not what you asked for, but thats one of the few "legal" ways of doing it, with something that actually works. 

 

My recipee my experience, and should not be taken as an advise. One redvine for the food, and one cognac after, one bottle of water, two valium, do your needed restroom duties,  and sleep 

For years I used DORMICUM and that put me to sleep within 20 minutes and lasted around 6 hours. But now these pills can only be obtain from a doctor. If you can get 1 or two, never take both!!!! I did once and had to nearly be carried out of the plane in BKK! LOL! ONLY ONE! Two and you probably sleep for 15 hours! If you use valium, remember they will be in your blood for a LONG time more than the few hrs you may sleep. The Dormicum is gone when you wake up.

[arick]

80 bht

Edited November 20 by arick

[arick]

Worst flights are from north American 

[thaibeachlovers]

15 hours ago, TimBKK said:

I have a very long flight next week - Hong Kong to Boston, 15+ hours - and am looking for something that I can buy at a local pharmacy in Pattaya, or maybe online, to help get some sleep on the plane.  
 

Nothing cannabis related though, I dont want to mess with Hong Kong customs

 

Any recommendations?  🙏

 

Mods - not sure if this is the correct forum?  

???????????????

 

15 hours awake is nothing much. I regularly go without sleep for over 24 hours.

In any event my direct flight to and from Thailand was 12 hours and 15 isn't much longer.

 

The biggest problem for me was the time difference, and I learned to get over that quickly by staying awake at destination till my normal sleep time and going to sleep then.

 

Instead of looking at it as a problem, look at it as an opportunity to watch a lot of movies or read that book you never got around to reading.

 

My doctor won't prescribe anything to make me go to sleep as they are all dangerous.

[thaibeachlovers]

9 minutes ago, arick said:

Worst flights are from north American 

Is that because American airlines are so bad?

[thaibeachlovers]

14 hours ago, OJAS said:

Some decent earplugs might go a long way to ensuring that you spend most your upcoming flight in the land of nod. My personal recommendation are Boots Mouldable Wax Earplugs which thusfar I've only been able to obtain during occasional trips back to the UK (my home country). But they now appear to be available online here in Thailand!😀

 

https://store.boots.co.th/products/บู๊ทส์-ฟาร์มาซูติคอลส์-ที่อุดหูแบบขี้ผึ้ง-5-คู่/5ff563031ab13d187c4d913e

 

I never had any luck with commercial earplugs. the ones that work are uncomfortable after a few hours and the soft ones are difficult to push down far enough. The only ones that work for me are custom made by the same people that do hearing aids.

[Hummin]

25 minutes ago, arick said:

80 bht

Antihistamine makes me drowsy, so I use it at evening before bedtime.

 

diphenhydramine or benadryl is well known used for temporary insomnia, and might work well for some. An better solution for sure.

Edited November 20 by Hummin

[Hummin]

35 minutes ago, harryviking said:

For years I used DORMICUM and that put me to sleep within 20 minutes and lasted around 6 hours. But now these pills can only be obtain from a doctor. If you can get 1 or two, never take both!!!! I did once and had to nearly be carried out of the plane in BKK! LOL! ONLY ONE! Two and you probably sleep for 15 hours! If you use valium, remember they will be in your blood for a LONG time more than the few hrs you may sleep. The Dormicum is gone when you wake up.

You are right, Half life is 48 hours for diazepam, and Dormicum only 2.5 hours, I was not familiar with Midazolam or Dormicum. Maybe worth checking out for next flight, thanks 

 

The last year I haven't bothered using anything, and I haven't slept one hour, still "only 11 hours and 12,5 hours direct flight, so it okay. 

[Hummin]

14 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I never had any luck with commercial earplugs. the ones that work are uncomfortable after a few hours and the soft ones are difficult to push down far enough. The only ones that work for me are custom made by the same people that do hearing aids.

Headphones with sound canceling is the best for flights, and normal industrial earplugs used the correct way and size. 

 

 

This the correct way to insert earplugs, but you finish off by holding your finger another 10sec while it expanding in your ear before letting go. He didnt do that in this video. Didnt botter to find another, but sure you understand

 

https://youtu.be/xF1CjCugD_M?si=2YQMrbNcB2APWDR_

[Hummin]

9 hours ago, Rampant Rabbit said:

Not  really, last time I flew First the  tv was broken........on Emirates in the A380, complained and got a free  flight next time.............private jet, way to go!!

Didn't you feel lonely up there? 

[zakalwe]

1 mg melatonin. 

[Hummin]

26 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

???????????????

 

15 hours awake is nothing much. I regularly go without sleep for over 24 hours.

In any event my direct flight to and from Thailand was 12 hours and 15 isn't much longer.

 

The biggest problem for me was the time difference, and I learned to get over that quickly by staying awake at destination till my normal sleep time and going to sleep then.

 

Instead of looking at it as a problem, look at it as an opportunity to watch a lot of movies or read that book you never got around to reading.

 

My doctor won't prescribe anything to make me go to sleep as they are all dangerous.

The worst problem with jetleg, is your body functions, when to go and do your deeds, and since I'm often have to work when back, I sleep when I can, and find that's the best way for me. Even 10 - 20 min middle of day do wonders.

[thaibeachlovers]

1 minute ago, Hummin said:

Headphones with sound canceling is the best for flights, and normal industrial earplugs used the correct way and size. 

 

 

This the correct way to insert earplugs, but you finish off by holding your finger another 10sec while it expanding in your ear before letting go. He didnt do that in this video. Didnt botter to find another, but sure you understand

 

https://youtu.be/xF1CjCugD_M?si=2YQMrbNcB2APWDR_

Those headphones cost a bundle.

I know the correct way to use soft earplugs but they are hard to push down far enough before they expand.

 

I just used the time to watch lots of movies. Can sleep when I'm dead.

[scorecard]

14 hours ago, scottiejohn said:

And what happens in an emergency when you are zonked out?

You'll be awake and alert quickly if there's an emergency. Nature.

[scorecard]

1 hour ago, Hummin said:

You are right, Half life is 48 hours for diazepam, and Dormicum only 2.5 hours, I was not familiar with Midazolam or Dormicum. Maybe worth checking out for next flight, thanks 

 

The last year I haven't bothered using anything, and I haven't slept one hour, still "only 11 hours and 12,5 hours direct flight, so it okay. 

 

If I need to take a very long flight I always book flights which depart very late night / very early morning (if available).  I always sleep well.

If it's a day time flight cannot sleep at all.