Popular Post Social Media Posted 9 hours ago Popular Post Posted 9 hours ago As tensions in Eastern Europe reach unprecedented levels, Germany is laying the groundwork for extensive national defense preparations, potentially positioning itself as a key NATO staging ground in the event of full-scale war. This development comes as Ukraine launched U.S.-supplied long-range missiles into Russian territory for the first time, and Russian President Vladimir Putin officially lowered the threshold for deploying nuclear weapons. Reports indicate that a detailed 1,000-page document, *Operationsplan Deutschland*, outlines Germany's role in hosting NATO forces. According to German media, the country could accommodate up to 800,000 NATO troops, serving as a crucial logistics hub to transport military supplies, food, and medicine to the front lines. Germany’s foreign minister has declared that the nation “will not be intimidated” by Moscow’s provocations. Beyond troop mobilization, German authorities are instructing businesses and civilians on how to protect infrastructure and prepare for emergencies, including the installation of independent energy sources such as diesel generators or wind turbines. Nordic nations have similarly bolstered civilian preparedness. Countries such as Finland, Sweden, Norway, and Denmark have issued guides and checklists for their populations, covering essentials like food, medical supplies, and rudimentary military training. Finland, for instance, launched an information campaign reminding citizens of their "national defense obligation," while Sweden detailed shelter procedures and nuclear attack protocols. Simultaneously, the United States has authorized the delivery of anti-personnel mines to Ukraine, marking another escalation in the conflict. These weapons, designed to slow Russian advances, come with strict guidelines stipulating their use only on Ukrainian soil for defensive purposes. Ukrainian forces recently utilized U.S.-supplied ATACMS (Army Tactical Missile Systems) to target an ammunition depot in Russia's Bryansk region, prompting Moscow to declare a "new phase of the Western war." Russia’s foreign minister, Sergei Lavrov, condemned the strikes, asserting that they signal the West’s intent to escalate the conflict. Foreign intelligence chief Sergei Naryshkin warned NATO nations facilitating such attacks that these actions "would not go unpunished." Meanwhile, NATO continues its largest-ever artillery exercises just 70 miles from the Russian border. Finland, which joined the military alliance in 2023, is hosting *Dynamic Front*, a live-fire training operation involving 3,600 soldiers from 28 countries. These drills, conducted in northern Lapland, are part of a series of military exercises planned across Europe, including in Estonia, Romania, Poland, and Germany. The British Army is also taking the opportunity to test its Archer 155-mm artillery system, hailed as a "game-changer" on the battlefield. Capable of firing both high-explosive and GPS-guided munitions with a range of 30 miles, these guns are proving invaluable in modern warfare. Major Barney Ingram highlighted their effectiveness, stating, “You can, realistically, with this capability, neutralize most targets.” Putin's recent adjustment to Russia’s nuclear doctrine has heightened the stakes, lowering the threshold for deploying nuclear weapons in response to conventional missile strikes, drone attacks, or other perceived threats. This shift follows increasing frustration in Moscow over NATO’s military support for Ukraine. With tensions escalating across the region, Europe appears poised for potential conflict on a scale not seen since World War II. From intensified military drills to increased civilian readiness, European nations are bracing for the possibility of an all-out war on the continent. Based on a report by Daily Mail 2024-11-22 2 4 1 1
Popular Post thaibeachlovers Posted 8 hours ago Popular Post Posted 8 hours ago 10 minutes ago, Social Media said: As tensions in Eastern Europe reach unprecedented levels, Germany is laying the groundwork for extensive national defense preparations, potentially positioning itself as a key NATO staging ground in the event of full-scale war. This development comes as Ukraine launched U.S.-supplied long-range missiles into Russian territory for the first time, and Russian President Vladimir Putin officially lowered the threshold for deploying nuclear weapons. Oh dear oh dear oh dear, it's all going wrong for the proponents of the proxy war. This is what escalation looks like folks, and if some people don't stop poking the Bear it's going to be nuclear winter. I guess the leaders of Europe that have been front and center in the fiasco have comfy bunkers to hide in when it all goes poof, unlike the serfs they pretend to represent. 4 2 1 3
Confuscious Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 49 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said: Oh dear oh dear oh dear, it's all going wrong for the proponents of the proxy war. This is what escalation looks like folks, and if some people don't stop poking the Bear it's going to be nuclear winter. I guess the leaders of Europe that have been front and center in the fiasco have comfy bunkers to hide in when it all goes poof, unlike the serfs they pretend to represent. Maybe that's what the EU leaders want? A FULL nuclear war to start all over again in 25 years? 1
Popular Post thaibeachlovers Posted 7 hours ago Popular Post Posted 7 hours ago Just now, Confuscious said: Maybe that's what the EU leaders want? A FULL nuclear war to start all over again in 25 years? You could be correct. The 1% would like that. I refer you to the speech in the "War Room" in Dr Strangelove, where someone comments about how only the best looking women would be permitted in the government survival bunkers. 3 1
Popular Post Tailwagsdog Posted 7 hours ago Popular Post Posted 7 hours ago 49 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said: Oh dear oh dear oh dear, it's all going wrong for the proponents of the proxy war. This is what escalation looks like folks, and if some people don't stop poking the Bear it's going to be nuclear winter. I guess the leaders of Europe that have been front and center in the fiasco have comfy bunkers to hide in when it all goes poof, unlike the serfs they pretend to represent. Your view is garbage, the so called 'Bear' attacked a sovereign free & democratic country invaded & bombed it's people. Its friends come to help, the Bully Bear was much much bigger. ...so what do you do when a neighbour kicks in your front door & points a gun at you? ...drop to your knees & cry ?? Get back in your hole, try to grow a brain at least, or better still enlist in the Russian army & join Putin's War ... 2 2 5 1 6
Popular Post thaibeachlovers Posted 7 hours ago Popular Post Posted 7 hours ago (edited) 5 minutes ago, Tailwagsdog said: Your view is garbage, the so called 'Bear' attacked a sovereign free & democratic country invaded & bombed it's people. Its friends come to help, the Bully Bear was much much bigger. ...so what do you do when a neighbour kicks in your front door & points a gun at you? ...drop to your knees & cry ?? Get back in your hole, try to grow a brain at least, or better still enlist in the Russian army & join Putin's War ... When I read insulting posts like yours it makes me realise that I am probably superior to at least one person on the planet. Edited 7 hours ago by thaibeachlovers 9 1
Popular Post Jethro27 Posted 7 hours ago Popular Post Posted 7 hours ago So you think it’s alright just to walk into a sovereign country and start a war do you?. Who’s next then? Why stop there! Keep marching and based on a 200 year old map let’s grab a few more countries. Putin is a lunatic with imperial desires and knows the west is weak. Don’t just poke the bear, shoot the bear, then we can go back too living as we once did. 2 2 1 1
Popular Post thaibeachlovers Posted 7 hours ago Popular Post Posted 7 hours ago 20 minutes ago, Jethro27 said: So you think it’s alright just to walk into a sovereign country and start a war do you?. You could ask that of Lebanon. 2 2
thaibeachlovers Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 21 minutes ago, Jethro27 said: So you think it’s alright just to walk into a sovereign country and start a war do you?. Who’s next then? Why stop there! Keep marching and based on a 200 year old map let’s grab a few more countries. Putin is a lunatic with imperial desires and knows the west is weak. Don’t just poke the bear, shoot the bear, then we can go back too living as we once did. Did you even think before saying "shoot the bear"? It's like you never knew Russia has more nukes than any other country. Living as we once did? Strange comment. How far back do you want to go, early 20th century- hundreds of millions dead in wars, Mao, Stalin etc. Late 20th century- Vietnam, Iraq 2000s Iraq, Covid, rise of corporations, overpopulation, climate change 1 2
Popular Post dinsdale Posted 6 hours ago Popular Post Posted 6 hours ago 1 hour ago, Social Media said: As tensions in Eastern Europe reach unprecedented levels, And it has reached these "unprecedented levels" because of a lame duck president. Please none of this BUT Putin invaded a sovereign country and Russia fires missiles into Ukraine. We all know this but the escalation of the situation is down to Biden in his 11th hour. Indeed the war itself may have been avoided but the Biden admin did nothing to try and stop it. Just sat back as the build up of troops on the border got bigger and bigger. 1 2 1 1 2
thaibeachlovers Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 10 minutes ago, dinsdale said: And it has reached these "unprecedented levels" because of a lame duck president. Please none of this BUT Putin invaded a sovereign country and Russia fires missiles into Ukraine. We all know this but the escalation of the situation is down to Biden in his 11th hour. Indeed the war itself may have been avoided but the Biden admin did nothing to try and stop it. Just sat back as the build up of troops on the border got bigger and bigger. The only question for me is if Biden or his handlers did it on purpose, or allowed it through incompetence. 2 1
thaibeachlovers Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 2 hours ago, Social Media said: Reports indicate that a detailed 1,000-page document, *Operationsplan Deutschland*, outlines Germany's role in hosting NATO forces. According to German media, the country could accommodate up to 800,000 NATO troops, serving as a crucial logistics hub to transport military supplies, food, and medicine to the front lines. Do they take us for fools? If there is any possibility that Russia will be defeated it'll be nuclear winter. All this talk of logistical hub etc is just verbal diarrhea intended to placate the sheeple, IMO. 1
Popular Post BritManToo Posted 6 hours ago Popular Post Posted 6 hours ago (edited) 59 minutes ago, Jethro27 said: So you think it’s alright just to walk into a sovereign country and start a war do you?. Who’s next then? Why stop there! Keep marching and based on a 200 year old map let’s grab a few more countries. Putin is a lunatic with imperial desires and knows the west is weak. Don’t just poke the bear, shoot the bear, then we can go back too living as we once did. Can't say I care what happens in eastern Europe, awful places, let Russia have them all (again) if they really want! For me, going back to living as we once did would mean the wall back up in Berlin, no wokes, no cultural diversity, no LBQT .... I could live with that. Edited 6 hours ago by BritManToo 2 2 1
dinsdale Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 3 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said: Do they take us for fools? If there is any possibility that Russia will be defeated it'll be nuclear winter. All this talk of logistical hub etc is just verbal diarrhea intended to placate the sheeple, IMO. I think it's more of a realization that NATO knows it's future under Trump. BTW it's there's now some doubt about it being ICBM or a hypersonic missile. The latter have previously been used and are indeed nuclear capable. There is a lot of hype going on right now. 1
thaibeachlovers Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 1 minute ago, dinsdale said: I think it's more of a realization that NATO knows it's future under Trump. BTW it's there's now some doubt about it being ICBM or a hypersonic missile. The latter have previously been used and are indeed nuclear capable. There is a lot of hype going on right now. Be more of a message if it was an ICBM. 1
pattayasan Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 1 hour ago, Confuscious said: Maybe that's what the EU leaders want? A FULL nuclear war to start all over again in 25 years? Maybe that's what the Russian leader wants because he's a dead man walking anyway? 2
dinsdale Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 2 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said: Be more of a message if it was an ICBM. And a message is all it is if it was actually an ICBM. Putin beating his chest as the media and idiots push the doomsday message. Been said many times there's absolutely no gain for Putin in using a tactical nuke with negotiations and a ceasefire on the horizon.
thaibeachlovers Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 3 minutes ago, dinsdale said: And a message is all it is if it was actually an ICBM. Putin beating his chest as the media and idiots push the doomsday message. Been said many times there's absolutely no gain for Putin in using a tactical nuke with negotiations and a ceasefire on the horizon. ICBMs can carry non nuclear warheads, but a tad harder to intercept than drones and a much larger bang.
dinsdale Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 2 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said: ICBMs can carry non nuclear warheads, but a tad harder to intercept than drones and a much larger bang. This one got through loaded by the looks of what I've seen with MIRV's.
thaibeachlovers Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 1 minute ago, dinsdale said: This one got through loaded by the looks of what I've seen with MIRV's. Not nukes though.
Popular Post dinsdale Posted 6 hours ago Popular Post Posted 6 hours ago (edited) 13 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said: Not nukes though. Obviously not. It's just Putin showing the capability. The reality is that there's no possible way that Ukraine can win. Russia has not even close to activated it's full force (not talking nukes here) and the only way for a Ukraine victory to occur as I have previously said is for the US to come in and then you have WWIII. Biden allowing the ATACMS, Storm Shadows and anti personnel mines is just adding fuel to a fire rather than trying to put it out. Edited 5 hours ago by dinsdale 3 1 1
Chivas Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago We are completely sleep walking into WW3 Nobody should be under any illusion this is the worst situation since the Cuban missile crisis My home City in UK would be the first wiped off the map because of the huge naval base Safer in Thailand but for how long 1 1
Chivas Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 37 minutes ago, pattayasan said: Maybe that's what the Russian leader wants because he's a dead man walking anyway? Nailed it completely 1 1
dinsdale Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 11 minutes ago, Chivas said: We are completely sleep walking into WW3 Nobody should be under any illusion this is the worst situation since the Cuban missile crisis My home City in UK would be the first wiped off the map because of the huge naval base Safer in Thailand but for how long No. Not a chance. This is just ridiculous doomsday talk and in no way based in reality. Putin will not use tactical nukes and the US will not go in with it's B1's, B2's and B52's, deploy it naval forces and it's ground forces. This is what would lead to WWIII. Ain't going to happen. 1
Chivas Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 10 minutes ago, dinsdale said: No. Not a chance. This is just ridiculous doomsday talk and in no way based in reality. Putin will not use tactical nukes and the US will not go in with it's B1's, B2's and B52's, deploy it naval forces and it's ground forces. This is what would lead to WWIII. Ain't going to happen. You are so wrong......there will be no B52's ground forces naval forces or any combination of it Poke that bear and its only a matter of time before he launches you know it I know it and anyone with an IQ of more than 17 knows it. At that point its all over as retaliatory nukes start landing Ground war lol !! 1
dinsdale Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 5 minutes ago, Chivas said: You are so wrong......there will be no B52's ground forces naval forces or any combination of it Poke that bear and its only a matter of time before he launches you know it I know it and anyone with an IQ of more than 17 knows it. At that point its all over as retaliatory nukes start landing Ground war lol !! Right well I guess sometime in the next two months the world is going to end. Do you realize how MAD (Mutually Assured Destruction) you sound? 2
Popular Post OneMoreFarang Posted 4 hours ago Popular Post Posted 4 hours ago Escalation is a two-sided thing. A escalates and then B escalates and then A escalates more because B escalated. It's not really too difficult to understand this. "The west" and western media should not pretend Putin is the only one who is doing the escalating. 3
Popular Post mfd101 Posted 4 hours ago Popular Post Posted 4 hours ago The problem with the 'Surrender Immediately' guys above is that, on that basis the Russians could go all the way to Portugal without anyone lifting a finger to stop them. All Putin has to do is growl loudly and everyone surrenders. Then Xi could walk in to Taiwan, not to mention Laos, Vietnam , Cambodia & Thailand ... 1 4
Ben Zioner Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 15 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said: Escalation is a two-sided thing. A escalates and then B escalates and then A escalates more because B escalated. It's not really too difficult to understand this. "The west" and western media should not pretend Putin is the only one who is doing the escalating. Maybe, but who did the invading thing? 1
OneMoreFarang Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 1 minute ago, Ben Zioner said: Maybe, but who did the invading thing? Obviously, Putin did that - and he claims he was provoked. My point is that more and more escalation is bad for everybody. Is it easy to stand back and let the others do something bad? No. But maybe we should not directly use that as a reason for more escalation. Let's try to be calm and think twice. 1
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