Biden pardons Hunter.

[DD86]

6 hours ago, transam said:

Isn't Trump going to pardon the convicted felons who invaded the White House, if he does, that is waaaaaaaaaay worse than Biden taking care of his son......

Oh c'mon, people convicted by the left. Stazi practice.

[DD86]

7 hours ago, simple1 said:

 

trump  also provides pardons for convicted criminals who support him. It's interesting the number of people in trump's orbit who are convicted for criminal offices compared to Biden. However, if you were the father and had the power would you not pardon for non violent offences? Below Biden gives his reasoning, sounds just like trump....

 

Biden said in the statement that he decided to issue the pardon because his son was “selectively, and unfairly, prosecuted,” saying that “Hunter was treated differently” from people who commit similar crimes.

>It's interesting the number of people in trump's orbit who are convicted for criminal offices compared to Biden<

That's a wrong comparison and you know it. This is polarizing since the inquisition was and is performed by the left.

[blaze master]

 

Almost every reply to this by the left has been but but but Trump.

 

 

[Eric Loh]

1 hour ago, theblether said:

 

Rumor floating around that Biden will pardon himself. Incredible if true ( and I don't believe it ). 

I think you meant Trump will pardon himself. Biden has done nothing wrong to incriminate him. Meanwhile felon Trump has a litany of convictions and more pending after he leave office. 

Edited 4 hours ago by Eric Loh
wrong word

[impulse]

11 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

I think you meant Trump will pardon himself. Biden has done nothing wrong to incriminate him. Meanwhile felon Trump has a litany of convictions and more pending after he leave office. 

 

You apparently didn't read the Hur Report, nor the House Committee records on the Biden Crime Family investigation.  He's got plenty to worry about, right after his protections as the sitting president end.   As a practical matter, there was no way they could impeach him with a Dem majority in the senate.  Once he's a private citizen the gloves can come off.

 

Keep in mind, the Hur Report just recommended not pressing charges.  That recommendation isn't binding on the next DOJ.  You really ought to read the House reports if you want to know all they have on the Bidens.  Not just Joe.  And now that Hunter can't stand behind the 5th amendment protections, they can haul his butt in and depose him.  But they need to do it after the blanket pardon, so he can't lie and get away with it.

 

Edited 4 hours ago by impulse

[NORDO]

Mr. O'Biden repeatedly pledged not to pardon his son, who was convicted in June of three separate felony charges related to his purchase of a revolver in 2018 when he was battling an addiction to illegal drugs, which he lied about on paperwork to obtain the gun, and pleaded guilty to nine tax evasion charges in a separate case September.

 

O'Biden  said that “Hunter was treated differently” from people who commit similar crimes.

 

Correct.   Hunter is free, while a myriad of others that committed the same and lesser crimes are incarcerated presently.

Edited 3 hours ago by NORDO
maga

[impulse]

1 hour ago, theblether said:

The implications and wording of this pardon are astounding. 

 

It will be interesting to see if it stands with the wording that pardons him for any and all crimes, whether they've been exposed yet or not. 

 

I'd be surprised if that stands up to judicial scrutiny.  Not that I claim any legal expertise, but it just sounds dodgy.  I can't imagine that's what the framers of the Constitution intended.

 

Edited 4 hours ago by impulse

[Eric Loh]

37 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

You apparently didn't read the Hur Report, nor the House Committee records on the Biden Crime Family investigation.  He's got plenty to worry about, right after his protections as the sitting president end.   As a practical matter, there was no way they could impeach him with a Dem majority in the senate.  Once he's a private citizen the gloves can come off.

 

Keep in mind, the Hur Report just recommended not pressing charges.  That recommendation isn't binding on the next DOJ.  You really ought to read the House reports if you want to know all they have on the Bidens.  Not just Joe.  And now that Hunter can't stand behind the 5th amendment protections, they can haul his butt in and depose him.  But they need to do it after the blanket pardon, so he can't lie and get away with it.

 

 

Hur's report stated that there was no prove of willful intent, End of story even for Trump's DOJ. The House Oversight spent considerable time in their investigation and found no evidence of wrongdoing by Joe Biden. The report also didn't had any spefic articles of impeachment. No crime no charge even if the GOP continue to spend tax payers money on a wild goose chase. 

[riclag]

55 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

It will be interesting to see if it stands with the wording that pardons him for any and all crimes, whether they've been exposed yet or not. 

 

I'd be surprised if that stands up to judicial scrutiny.  Not that I claim any legal expertise, but it just sounds dodgy.  I can't imagine that's what the framers of the Constitution intended.

 

We can expect Bondi to come clean with Joes Recorded conversation under oath that his Right hand man( Garland) avoided to make public to the oversite committee.

Joe lied to everyone!

No one is above the law, lie.

He lied about never meeting his sons business partners!

Now he lied about a pardon!

 

Oversite will need someone other than James Comer to head the committee! He’s not ruthless enough.

Edited 3 hours ago by riclag

[blaze master]

1 hour ago, Eric Loh said:

I think you meant Trump will pardon himself. Biden has done nothing wrong to incriminate him. Meanwhile felon Trump has a litany of convictions and more pending after he leave office. 

 

But but but Trump. I see you aren't coping well either. 

[riclag]

18 minutes ago, blaze master said:

 

But but but Trump. I see you aren't coping well either. 

Im convinced that heads must role!

The left has to be taught a lesson on 

using Stalinist Lawfare tactics!

 

we call it being held accountable!

The left calls it seeking retribution!

 

[transam]

2 minutes ago, riclag said:

Im convinced that heads must role!

The left has to be taught a lesson on 

using Stalinist Lawfare tactics!

 

we call it being held accountable!

The left calls it seeking retribution!

 

Your future Pressy has not been made accountable, how many days has he spent in court for one thing or another, became a felon too................😂

[blaze master]

8 minutes ago, transam said:

Your future Pressy has not been made accountable, how many days has he spent in court for one thing or another, became a felon too................😂

 

How many days has he spent in jail ? 

[blaze master]

10 minutes ago, transam said:

Your future Pressy has not been made accountable, how many days has he spent in court for one thing or another, became a felon too................😂

 

Also ps...didn't you get the memo ? Most of the charges are bs and the population doesn't seem to care about it all.

[G_Money]

2 hours ago, blaze master said:

 

Almost every reply to this by the left has been but but but Trump.

 

 

Soon we’ll be hearing “It was Trump's fault”.

[pedro01]

Him pardoning his son is not a shocker.

 

The shocker is what he's pardoned him for - absolutely ANYTHING he's done in the past decade. ANYTHING. 

 

This isn't a pardon for a conviction - or a specific crime - it's all crimes, including stuff Joe knows about but has not yet been uncovered. 

 

This will blow back in a spectactular fashion!

[transam]

2 minutes ago, blaze master said:

 

How many days has he spent in jail ? 

None yet, the Prezzy thing has stalled everything, though he may pardon himself when he actually takes over...........😋

[pedro01]

4 hours ago, sqwakvfr said:

Hunter Biden is the classic addict.  No such thing as a former addict.  Give him time he will be involved in narcoitcs, prostitution or both.  Next time dad will not be in a position to do much and even the friendly SS agent might not be there.  

 

No such thing as a "former addict" 

 

So let me get this right - someone addicted to cocaine, that no longer takes is - is not a "former addict" in your book?

[blaze master]

4 minutes ago, transam said:

None yet, the Prezzy thing has stalled everything, though he may pardon himself when he actually takes over...........😋

 

Nor will he ever spend time in jail. It was foolish to think he ever would. 

[transam]

1 minute ago, blaze master said:

 

Nor will he ever spend time in jail. It was foolish to think he ever would. 

It is foolish to assume what the Law will actually do......😉

[blaze master]

Just now, transam said:

It is foolish to assume what the Law will actually do......😉

 

You just can't admit.you are wrong eh. And from your post history that happens a lot. 

 

Carry on with your weird emoji use though. 

[sqwakvfr]

6 minutes ago, pedro01 said:

 

No such thing as a "former addict" 

 

So let me get this right - someone addicted to cocaine, that no longer takes is - is not a "former addict" in your book?

Have you ever spoken to an expert in addiction? I have and i have dealt with addicts and just as an alcoholic is alwasy an alcholic the same goes for those addicted to drugs, gambling, sex and yes even porn. Have you ever gone to an AA or an Alanon or gamblers anonymous meetings?

[transam]

Just now, blaze master said:

 

You just can't admit.you are wrong eh. And from your post history that happens a lot. 

 

Carry on with your weird emoji use though. 

Wrong about what.......?

My post history, you've only been a member for ONE MONTH, have you read all my 17+ years worth of posts then.....?

 

Stand down chap............🥴

 

[theblether]

1 hour ago, impulse said:

 

It will be interesting to see if it stands with the wording that pardons him for any and all crimes, whether they've been exposed yet or not. 

 

I'd be surprised if that stands up to judicial scrutiny.  Not that I claim any legal expertise, but it just sounds dodgy.  I can't imagine that's what the framers of the Constitution intended.

 

 

Give this a few days. The language used in this pardon is extraordinary. 

 

It is astounding that a serving President has accused his own agencies of corruption and political targeting. 

 

The Democrat defenses written on this forum are moronic. These people don't understand the true meaning of what has happened here and been committed to government record. 

 

I've already read enraged texts by high profile Democrat supporters. I've also seen law Professors stirring. 

 

Biden has declared war on the FBI and DOJ. He is expected to also pardon his brother in January. 

 

While the brigade of idiots refuse to see that MAGA is over the moon with this pardon, I predict serious players emerging to "Clooney" Biden again before he causes more lasting damage to the Democrats. 

 

The 25th Amendment would be on the table if Harris wasn't so useless. 

[blaze master]

Just now, transam said:

Wrong about what.......?

My post history, you've only been a member for ONE MONTH, have you read all my 17+ years worth of posts then.....?

 

Stand down chap............🥴

 

 

Stand down what.You're part of the never Trump crowd. You're a Biden was razor sharp guy. 

 

Don't need to read your pathetic post history. Just the last few months is enough.

 

Ps just because someone has been a member for a month doesn't mean they haven't visited the forum for years. 

 

There you go with another stupid post

 

Stand up chap.

 

[pedro01]

Just now, sqwakvfr said:

Have you ever spoken to an expert in addiction? I have and i have dealt with addicts and just as an alcoholic is alwasy an alcholic the same goes for those addicted to drugs, gambling, sex and yes even porn. Have you ever gone to an AA or an Alanon or gamblers anonymous meetings?

 

I have spoken to many experts in addiction. Experts that will tell you the REALITY of addiction - like "hitting rock bottom" for most people is not them getting a wake up call - it's them running out of money to get more drugs. 

 

AA of course say "everyone is an alcoholic forever" - it's nonsense - old, dated claptrap from their founder.

 

And it helps to boost their numbers. Hence the "lost souls" there - addicted to meetings, still going after 25 years clean, Still convincing themselves they are addicted. I think they are just lonely. And that's fine. 

 

Perhaps you have not experienced addiction personally. So my lived experience and yours are different. Mine tells me that with sufficient time - the past is in the past - the demons are away for good. The risk is no longer there. That you have done the last "dip your toe in the water for old times sake" - and found the 'magic' was no longer there. Maybe your journey was one of buying into what AA told you - that you need to join and be a member forever.

 

More power to you if that's what you need. It just doesn't make it true.

[transam]

Just now, blaze master said:

 

Stand down what.You're part of the never Trump crowd. You're a Biden was razor sharp guy. 

 

Don't need to read your pathetic post history. Just the last few months is enough.

 

Ps just because someone has been a member for a month doesn't mean they haven't visited the forum for years. 

 

There you go with another stupid post

 

Stand up chap.

 

Yeh, you probably have been a 'member' for years........😎

 

So, you don't like criticism of the lying, criminal BS-er that you voted for, tough.....

 

Remember, this is a chat forum that means nothing and alters nothing, so don't get your knickers in a twist, besises, it's not good for you.........🤒

[Keep Right]

Old sleepy Joe's legacy was already that of a senile old man bent on serving another term until removed so at this point, Biden has nothing to lose by deliberately lying and pardoning his corrupt drug addict son Hunter. Move over Nixon, a new even more corrupt President is now at the top of the list of the most detested Presidents in history. 

[sqwakvfr]

19 minutes ago, pedro01 said:

 

I have spoken to many experts in addiction. Experts that will tell you the REALITY of addiction - like "hitting rock bottom" for most people is not them getting a wake up call - it's them running out of money to get more drugs. 

 

AA of course say "everyone is an alcoholic forever" - it's nonsense - old, dated claptrap from their founder.

 

And it helps to boost their numbers. Hence the "lost souls" there - addicted to meetings, still going after 25 years clean, Still convincing themselves they are addicted. I think they are just lonely. And that's fine. 

 

Perhaps you have not experienced addiction personally. So my lived experience and yours are different. Mine tells me that with sufficient time - the past is in the past - the demons are away for good. The risk is no longer there. That you have done the last "dip your toe in the water for old times sake" - and found the 'magic' was no longer there. Maybe your journey was one of buying into what AA told you - that you need to join and be a member forever.k 

 

More power to you if that's what you need. It just doesn't make it true.

How do you know what if any type of addiction that I have or not experienced in my life?  I know i can never be around certain people or certain place ever again. For me "one more time for old times sake could be the last time, forever". I mentioned AA, Alanon and GA for context. This does not mean I fully buy into any those type of programs. It is true I have encountered some who can "casually" use cocaine and "live a normal" life.  But I have encountered the tragic side as well. 

Lastly fentanyl is not cause of concern in the US now?  Even legal meds can lead to addiction. Just think of strong pain killers that doctors prescribe just about eveyday. 

Edited 1 hour ago by sqwakvfr

[BigStar]

1 hour ago, Eric Loh said:

Hur's report stated that there was no prove of willful intent, End of story even for Trump's DOJ. T

 

Special counsel finds Biden "willfully" disclosed classified documents, but no criminal charges warranted