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10 hours ago, pedro01 said:

 

You keep telling yourself that - and you'll be absolutely right.

 

The idea that addiction is a lifelong condition can really hold people back.

 

It locks them into this permanent "addict" identity, which isn't exactly inspiring when you're trying to move forward.

 

It can make them feel like they're stuck in this battle forever, reliant on programs like AA, and if they relapse, it’s seen as this huge failure rather than just part of the process. Plus, it ignores the fact that not everyone’s journey is the same—some people do move past addiction without needing lifelong abstinence or constant support. It’s like a one-size-fits-all label that doesn’t really fit anyone properly.

 

This comes across in your writings. I am not saying you can go back to casual use of your poison. I am saying that the state of "post addiction" exists. You can get there. It's nothing to do with going back and casually using - it's about being past addiction, past rehab, past thinking about your poison all the time. 

 

It's growing out of it. 

Really,so I can tell people I know that can now they can socially drink again and the people who were on opiods that they can now take it again because they are now over it?  Great news for them.  Also, I know a person who gambled his 401K of $500,000 away at casinos that he can now just "dip his toes" back for a night of social gambling.  Amazing so this idea of yours fits for all addicts?  If what you say is true then why doesn't it work for all addicts?  So addicts who can't "grow out of it" do not commit suicide? "Everyones journey is the same"?.  I would say not. 
 

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Posted
8 hours ago, NanLaew said:

 

Biden pardoned his worthless, law-breaking son, even going as far as to call his prosecution a miscarriage of justice. The venality and hubris is thick on BOTH sides but he Democrat leadership deserves the ire of the people, not the Republican leadership.

 

Trump abusing his presidential powers to pardon criminals should never have meant it's OK for Biden to pardon his. Biden previously went on record as saying he would NEVER issue a pardon for Hunter. Now he's a bitter old loser with a fragile ego, just like his nemesis, who doesn't give a damn how this flip-flop shades his already sh!t party.

 

So only non-criminals should be pardoned?

 

Think about that for a second...

Posted
1 hour ago, sqwakvfr said:

Really,so I can tell people I know that can now they can socially drink again and the people who were on opiods that they can now take it again because they are now over it?  Great news for them.  Also, I know a person who gambled his 401K of $500,000 away at casinos that he can now just "dip his toes" back for a night of social gambling.  Amazing so this idea of yours fits for all addicts?  If what you say is true then why doesn't it work for all addicts?  So addicts who can't "grow out of it" do not commit suicide? "Everyones journey is the same"?.  I would say not. 
 

 

Never said that.

 

Never implied it.

 

Wasn't even on my mind.

 

You see - YOU have been trained to see the addiction boogeyman around every corner as per your post above. 

 

Some people are past it, not thinking about their poison, no chance of them doing the above either. 

 

Why would an EX-Addict go back to the thing that caused them pain? They don't want it any more, aren't addicted to it or thinking about it.

 

The AA Cult is strong!

Posted (edited)
13 minutes ago, pedro01 said:

 

Never said that.

 

Never implied it.

 

Wasn't even on my mind.

 

You see - YOU have been trained to see the addiction boogeyman around every corner as per your post above. 

 

Some people are past it, not thinking about their poison, no chance of them doing the above either. 

 

Why would an EX-Addict go back to the thing that caused them pain? They don't want it any more, aren't addicted to it or thinking about it.

 

The AA Cult is strong!

I have not been trained by any organization or person. I have never seen a "boogyeman".  Do you think I am 5 years old? I  have seen the various kinds of addictions up close and personal. I knew an addict who was a  former soldier  who was kicked out because he could not stop drinking.  A close relative got him a job with a Defense contractor in a middle east country(a conservative muslim place where alcoholic beverages are strcitly prohibited). This sad 30 year old alcoholic somehow found alcohol in this country  and was arrested by the local police for beiing drunk in public. He was quickly fired from his job and deported.  He never felt he had a problem. Doubt going to rehab will solve his problem and doubt he can ever be a "social" drinker because he never was. He was the classic binge drinker and his life will probably end sooner than later. This dude never came close to an AA meeting and probably will never stop drinking.  Actually finding and buying enough alcohol in this country to get publicly drunk was an amazing feat. Gotta give  him give credit for that feat. This is just one example of the various addicts I have encountered in my life. 

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Posted
8 minutes ago, sqwakvfr said:

I have not been trained by any organization or person. I have never seen a "boogyeman".  Do you think I am 5 years old? I  have seen the various kinds of addictions up close and personal. I knew an addict who was a  former Marine who was kicked out because he could not stop drinking.  A close relative got him a job with a Defense contractor in Kuwait(a conservative muslim country where alcoholic beverages are strcitly prohibited). This sad 24 year old alcoholic somehow found alcohol in Kuwait and was arrested by the Kuwaiti police for beiing drunk in public. He was quickly fired from his job and deported.  He never felt he had a problem. Doubt going to rehab will solve his problem and doubt he can ever be a "social" drinker because he never was. He was the classic binge drinker and his life will probably end sooner than later. This dude never came close to an AA meeting and probably will never stop drinking.  Actually finding and buying enough alcohol in Kuwait to get publicly drunk was an amazing feat. Gotta give  him give credit for that feat. This is just one example of the various addicts I have encountered in my life. 

 

So? Doesn't prove your point.

 

Addicts do dumb <deleted>. Many die. Many move on. Some like being addicts and stay in AA forever. 

 

Whatever gets you through the night. 

Posted
12 hours ago, transam said:

I don't need to prove to you or anyone else anything, new bloke...........:clap2:

Respect, a new bloke telling me about respect.............🤣

He probably didn't know that you were one of the chosen ones

Posted
3 minutes ago, flexomike said:

He probably didn't know that you were one of the chosen ones

You are awfully lippy for a new bloke. respect around here only comes with three decades of wasted life and 90,000 posts. 

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Posted
9 hours ago, NanLaew said:

 

Hear that? That's the sound of dick crying.

So you are one of Trannies supporters, you fit in just rigght with him

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