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Denmark Rejects Japan's Request for Extradition, Frees Anti-Whaling Activist Paul Watson


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9 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

Bull cookies. Whales are a protein source, nothing more.  As long as endangered species aren't taken, no different than fishing for tuna. Anthropomorphizing them is foolish. 

 

Exactly. 

 

"Oh but they're so big so I have to save them". What a joke. I bet it's the same type of nutters from Just Stop Oil. 

 

Reminds me of the song when Wales played England in the rugby on the TV, singing along with my Dad to annoy my Gran (his mother in law) who was from the valleys. 

 

Whales, whales, bl****y great fishes are whales,

They swim in the sea,

We eat them for tea,

Oh bl****y great fishes are whales. 

 

Great times 😆.

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All a bit rich from the Japanese authorities.

Can't remember reading about the Japanese authorities,  compensating 

 Pete Bethune for the vessel that a Japanese whaling boat ran over and sunk.

whilst having a confrontation with sea Shepard.

 

 

 

 

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11 minutes ago, Emdog said:

Whales are intelligent and self aware which is more than I can say for some posters.... I suppose it boils down to what is the cut off line for killing and eating a different species than your own. Far too many people... use them for a protein source

 

 

I am starting to think that maybe we don't need to wait for humans to die out - just hand over control to the octopuses now. They surely can't do a worse job. 

 

Scientist predicts octopuses would takeover the world if humans died out

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54 minutes ago, RuamRudy said:

 

Just because you can eat them doesn't mean that you should. 

Different strokes for different folks. 

 

Every culture has taboos about food. Some places, dogs and rats are delicacies. Others, whale meat is a traditional source of nutrition. No difference. As long as the harvest doesn't endanger the particular species, what is the problem? 

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1 hour ago, Emdog said:

Whales are intelligent and self aware which is more than I can say for some posters.... I suppose it boils down to what is the cut off line for killing and eating a different species than your own. Far too many people... use them for a protein source

 

Yeah? If they are so smart and self-aware, how do they let themselves be caught and eaten by humans? 

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11 minutes ago, rudi49jr said:


Seriously? That’s the kind of ‘logic’ and ‘reasoning’ used by 12-year-olds.

Let me ask you this. You probably think you’re a pretty intelligent guy. Now imagine this. You’re out on foot on a vast open and flat plain, with nowhere to hide. Then someone in a car appears and starts shooting at you with an elephant rifle, with a view to kill you for fun. How long do you think you will last with all your savvy and intelligence?

And by the way, people are also protein. There’s a reason that hunting down and eating people is frowned upon, isn’t there?

Uh yeah, because they are people and not animals. That is a fairly logical place to draw a line. 

 

Your analogy sucks.  You are thinking 2 dimensionally. Whales have 3 dimensions to use. Just dive deep and be safe. And whales aren't killed for fun. They are killed for food. Big difference. 

 

All the brouhaha around whales is just emotion and misplaced sensitivity. 

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So many people in authority forget the power of video. Showing no one was on the deck when the stink bomb was visual proof. 

 

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On 12/18/2024 at 4:50 PM, RuamRudy said:

 

Just because you can eat them doesn't mean that you should. 

Quite right too.

Japan doesn't even need to eat them. They get plenty of protein from the same farm animals as most of us.

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On 12/18/2024 at 1:48 PM, Hanaguma said:

Bull cookies. Whales are a protein source, nothing more.  As long as endangered species aren't taken, no different than fishing for tuna. Anthropomorphizing them is foolish. 

People can also be a protein source and are in no danger of being an endangered species. I bet you don't think it would be OK to eat people though.

Anyway, given that humans have almost destroyed the oceans already, there may not be any whales, or fish, left in the future.

 

BTW, do you eat cats and dogs and horses? All yummy protein sources I'm sure.

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On 12/18/2024 at 1:48 PM, Hanaguma said:

Bull cookies. Whales are a protein source, nothing more.  As long as endangered species aren't taken, no different than fishing for tuna. Anthropomorphizing them is foolish. 

I refuse to eat tuna, as well as whale protein.

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Just now, JonnyF said:

 

What's different about killing a whale and killing a cow? Or a pig?

A cow or a pig normally gets humanely killed, or as humanely as possible. Whales suffer a lot before they die. How would you like it if someone stuck a dirty great harpoon in you?

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2 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

A cow or a pig normally gets humanely killed, or as humanely as possible. Whales suffer a lot before they die. How would you like it if someone stuck a dirty great harpoon in you?

 

It's not very humane in Thailand. Often transported long distances on the back of a truck, crammed in unable to move in searing heat.

 

And that's before they get to the slaughterhouse, often to be clubbed to death.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/jun/11/death-by-clubbing-brutality-thailand-pig-slaughterhouses

 

Don't see anyone crying about that as they tuck into their pork ribs or Khao Phat Moo. 

 

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2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

People can also be a protein source and are in no danger of being an endangered species. I bet you don't think it would be OK to eat people though.

Anyway, given that humans have almost destroyed the oceans already, there may not be any whales, or fish, left in the future.

 

BTW, do you eat cats and dogs and horses? All yummy protein sources I'm sure.

I have tried two of the three. Didn't care for the taste all that much, but did it for the experience.

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2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

A cow or a pig normally gets humanely killed, or as humanely as possible. Whales suffer a lot before they die. How would you like it if someone stuck a dirty great harpoon in you?

Don't stress about it. They use exploding harpoons, much more efficient than the old style ones.  Are you shifting your argument to the acual harvesting procedures and away from a purely anthropomorphic one?

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On 12/18/2024 at 8:04 AM, JonnyF said:
On 12/18/2024 at 7:48 AM, Hanaguma said:

Bull cookies. Whales are a protein source, nothing more.  As long as endangered species aren't taken, no different than fishing for tuna. Anthropomorphizing them is foolish. 

 

Exactly. 

 

Aren't whales far more intelligent and aware than tuna?  And don't they hunt them with harpoons with the whale suffering for some time before dying?

 

It is nowhere near the same as fishing for tuna.

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2 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

 

Aren't whales far more intelligent and aware than tuna?  And don't they hunt them with harpoons with the whale suffering for some time before dying?

 

It is nowhere near the same as fishing for tuna.

I dunno. I think hooking a fish through the cheek and dragging it around, or catching it in a net and letting it asphyxiate sounds pretty gruesome to be honest. A quick exploding harpoon to the head might be a lot better!

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3 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Quite right too.

Japan doesn't even need to eat them. They get plenty of protein from the same farm animals as most of us.

 

None of us needs to eat any animals.  We can get plenty of protein from plants.  

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On 12/18/2024 at 4:31 AM, thaibeachlovers said:

The killing of whales is a truly vile practice, and should be combated in the same way the slave trade was targeted at sea by the British Navy.

For only the second time ever...we actually agree on something👍

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On 12/18/2024 at 11:49 AM, Hanaguma said:

Yeah? If they are so smart and self-aware, how do they let themselves be caught and eaten by humans? 

WT-FFF⁉️

Posted
8 hours ago, JonnyF said:

 

What's different about killing a whale and killing a cow? Or a pig?

Nothing. Or a dog or cat or chicken. It's why I've been a vegan for 35 of my 64 years. 

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