UK & Thai Police Partner to Enhance Custody Conditions in Thailand

[snoop1130]

Photo: The Thaiger

 

In a significant step towards modernising detainee treatment, the Royal Thai Police have teamed up with the UK to revolutionise police custody conditions across Thailand. This collaboration focuses on adopting UK models to raise the quality of life and safety for those held in detention.

 

Police General Thatchai Pitaneelaboot of the RTP, alongside UK counterparts including British Charge d’Affaires David Thomas and representatives from Northumbria Police, convened recently to evaluate the initiative's progress. Two police stations, Pathumwan and Mueang Chanthaburi, have been selected as pilot sites for the project.

 

Since July, Thai and UK police forces have shared insights and conducted joint studies to realise this vision. Key measures include upgrading detention facilities, implementing rigorous risk assessments, maintaining detailed records for transparency, and boosting security with CCTV systems.

 

 

The project aims to align detention procedures with human rights standards, focusing on creating safer, more humane environments. Planned improvements consist of specialised zones for searches, interrogations, and first aid, alongside introducing body cameras and a digital data management system.

 

By fostering accountability and transparency, these reforms seek to prevent misconduct, while enhancing public trust in police operations. An electronic management system for documenting detainee processes is also in development to further bolster these efforts. This Thailand-UK partnership marks a progressive leap towards ethical policing practices.

 

-- 2024-12-23

 

 

[hotchilli]

11 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

The project aims to align detention procedures with human rights standards, focusing on creating safer, more humane environments. Planned improvements consist of specialised zones for searches, interrogations, and first aid, alongside introducing body cameras and a digital data management system

I guess that will change the practice of sleeping on a concrete floor 50 to a cell ?

[Swiss1960]

32 minutes ago, hotchilli said:

I guess that will change the practice of sleeping on a concrete floor 50 to a cell ?

Only for police stations, NOT for prisons...

[klauskunkel]

Does everybody qualify for these improved conditions or only Brits? Asking for a friend.

[SanSaiExPat]

I though the UK police had their hands full these days arresting little old ladies for speaking out against the WOKE policies of the Government but now they have time and personnel enough for this?  Obviously they need their budget cut.

[MangoKorat]

555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555 ROTFL

[Bday Prang]

They should send Starmer and Cooper over here too, they could exchange ideas on two tier justice systems with the acknowledged experts on the subject

[renaissanc]

It's the prisons and airport Immigration Detention Centres that need upgrading from the (19)th century to the 21st century. Police stations nationwide are limited by money and space to implement change. If the laws about drug possession were changed, I expect prison cells could be emptied by one-quarter to half.

[twizzian]

The UK police would be the last I’d want any help and advice. They’ve turned against the Brit’s, why would they be of any use to the Thai’s 

[john donson]

maybe UK prisons and everywhere should be more like thailand...where a punishment is felt by sleeping on the floor with 30 other and sh.itting in a bucket, instead of the hotel style with full comfort of the criminals

[Nicholas Paul KNIGHT]

Having run a Custody Suite in the UK<, it would take a complete change of attitude by the RTP to begin toe even be comparable to the UK POLICE STATIONS. 

Sadly the cultural problems will always remain .  Plus the way RTP deals with often minor offences border on illegal detention.

[RichardColeman]

Translation of this story is that the UK embassy want even less work dealing with complaints (and other matters) about the detention of UK people. 

[kingstonkid]

53 minutes ago, renaissanc said:

It's the prisons and airport Immigration Detention Centres that need upgrading from the (19)th century to the 21st century. Police stations nationwide are limited by money and space to implement change. If the laws about drug possession were changed, I expect prison cells could be emptied by one-quarter to half.

The challenge to making any changes like that is money.  The powers that be would have to build brand new facilities for prisoners, which would take up more land space.  There is no land available to build or renovate the IDC.

 

Then again, the only people that go there are those that serve it, and they want out of the country ASAP.  Imagine if they gave 3 squares and a cot. I think a lot of people would want to stay there permanently versus going back to their native country penny and homeless.

 

Imagine 3 hots and a cot versus living on the streets in the UK. Which would you choose?

 

Concerning the prisons again, maybe they could cut down the numbers, but again, these are not supposed to be country clubs.  To me the harsher the penalties the more of a deterrent.  Land and what to do with prisoners while renovating is a huge issue. 

 

Let's sort out the easy spots first and get the police precincts in order.  Then if some country wants to give the Thai people money they can build a bright shiny new prison.

[ryandb]

3 hours ago, klauskunkel said:

Does everybody qualify for these improved conditions or only Brits? Asking for a friend.

 

fairly sure we are all of the felons according to reports on this place

[baansgr]

Probably only because of the high profile case of a black man eating a traffic ticket

[Frankie baby]

Once passed by the remand detention center housing my mate in the UK. I called in to see how he was doing. The guy on the desk said I needed prior notice so they could find him. He said he could be anywhere, on the football field, in the gym, library or in the workshop etc. They also get a couple of nights out down the pub.

Nearly asked him how do I book a week. 

[Kinok Farang]

1 hour ago, baansgr said:

Probably only because of the high profile case of a black man eating a traffic ticket

Improvement to eating another black man.

[lordgrinz]

Does this mean no more black plastic bag interrogations? 

[Dogmatix]

Thai and British police are only responsible for custody in police cells.  Thai police cells are usually just one open cell for men and women together with a concrete floor to sit and sleep on and a bucket in the corner to pee and poop in. Rapes of vulnerable prisoners such as illegal aliens are a common occurrence in Thai police cells with Thai police senior sergeant majors, which seems to be nearly all of them, exercising a medieval droit de seigneur (right of the feudal lord or slave owner) over the helpless captives.

 

British police are probably jealous of the Thai interrogation methods with black plastic bags over the head and a boy in Kalasin who was castrated by police colonels trying to get a confession of motor bike theft.  They then hung his body from a tree in a neighboring province to make it look like suicide but his aunt was skeptical about how he lost his balls and why he travelled so far from home to commit suicide. Of course none of the police colonels ever faced appropriate punishment.

 

As we all know, this is all for show.  Thai police and their government have no intention of doing anything about this stuff. 

[NobbyClarke]

4 hours ago, Bday Prang said:

 

 

[Lopburikid]

7 hours ago, hotchilli said:

I guess that will change the practice of sleeping on a concrete floor 50 to a cell ?

Funny how this comes about 2 months after Thailand was invited on to the European Human rights council. So I guess they have to be seen to be doing something!

[hotchilli]

46 minutes ago, Lopburikid said:

Funny how this comes about 2 months after Thailand was invited on to the European Human rights council. So I guess they have to be seen to be doing something!

Doing something comes after talking, and that never ends.

[PETERTHEEATER]

David Thomas is Deputy Head of Mission not Charge d'Affaires.

Mark Gooding is Ambassador.

 

[Phuket Pete]

Being soft on Criminals has been the scourge of the UK. Carry on as you were Thailand and don't allow this namby-pamby approach to attract undesirables. Fed up of being embarrassed by fully grown fellow countrymen who cant behave themselves - Drunken Brit smashes up 7-11 / Stoned Brit crashes motorbike into crowd / brawls with security guards / British man Robs tourist / abuses children.

[Samh]

UK deaths in police custody in 2023 were 17 https://www.inquest.org.uk/deaths-in-police-custod

[RafPinto]

Sorry to post my request here. It seems it can't be seen by others.

 

Good morning,

 

I'm in the following situation.

I own a commercial property in the UK. A new tenant took over the property and a new lease was drawn up by my lawyer.
Months ago, my lawyer forwarded me the lease documents to my condo in BKK to be signed and send back to him and later to be signed by the new tenants.
I received the paperwork, signed and sent it back (signed for) through thai post office. Papers received by lawyer in less then 10 days.

 

Papers forwarded to tenant's lawyer to let his customer sign and then back to my lawyer. 
Once received, the lease was officially registered at the "Registers of Scotland".

 

Now, that's an important document and my lawyer decided to send it to me, using the service of UPS. Cost 65£

 

It left  Scotland on 29/11 and went  to Germany, China and finally to Samut Phrakan warehouse on 05th of december.

Every morning an updated: Scan warehouse Samut Phrakan.

Your package is awaiting release from a non UPS broker.

 

On 09 December, message: UPS has contacted the shipper for customs clearance information.

Since then, each day same message: Scan warehouse Samut Phrakan.

Expected delivery was  Friday 13.

I tried to contact UPS here and phone number given never accepted any call.
Last week, I contacted my lawyer to get in touch with UPS and got the following answer:

 

Dear customer,

TH customs hold your package. This shipment must do import formalities for release this package from TH customs.

 

Choice 1: Use UPS for customs clearance

Choice 2: Use alternative broker for customs clearance.
Choice 3: Reject the parcel

If choosen Choice 1: Use UPS for customs clearance but WE DO NOT PROVIDE A SERVICE FOR APPLYING ANY IMPORT.

 

Please follow customs import formalities process as below:

Step 1: Register with customs department to be an importer or exporter and appoint UPS as an export agen.

 

Step 2: please advise description of goods as below:

1 What product

2; Brand name

3. country of origin

5. proof of payment

6. copy of passport

 

Or use a different broker for customs clearance.

 

FEES: 

Service charge: 1,391 baht

Entry warehouse fee: 1,091 baht

Thai airways daily fee: 173,88 baht per dayCustoms fee: 200 baht

Fee for amending customs documents: 1,321 baht

Customs department fee: 200 bahtTax: 7%

 

They can't be right in their head.

UPS was given the job to handle the transport of the documents.
It was a Din A4 envelope with important documents. Weight declared 2kg

Sender: Law office

Receiver: myself

Declared item: documents.

 

Any idea how to handle this situation.

 

I often send paperwork back to UK and never got any problems.
My daughter got yesterday her Christmas presents: a box with gifts and sweets and no problem at all.

 

 

Thanks,

 

[Will B Good]

9 hours ago, SanSaiExPat said:

I though the UK police had their hands full these days arresting little old ladies for speaking out against the WOKE policies of the Government but now they have time and personnel enough for this?  Obviously they need their budget cut.

 

Get a life.

[Ironmike]

This must be because so many Brits are coming here and committing crimes that the do gooders back in pommie land need a new cause to follow and cry about,,, leave the conditions the same if those idiots can't handle the concrete floors then they should stay in England 

[Kinok Farang]

9 hours ago, baansgr said:

Probably only because of the high profile case of a black man eating a traffic ticket

Could have been worse.

A black man eating a traffic warden.

[Patong2021]

8 hours ago, Kinok Farang said:

Improvement to eating another black man.

 

 

Thatis one heck of a dad joke.