Speculate. What is in Greenland that makes Trump say it is vital to US security?

[uncletiger]

Yes Danes. The man who wrote the Art of the Deal is coming after Greenland and he's serious this time.  Looks like you're going to have to surrender that prime piece of real estate. Don't feel bad though. The US will also be annexing Canada, and wrenching the canal back from Panama.

 

Obviously more is going on than meets the eye. I'm not taking any of these statements at face value, but Trump doesn't just make stuff up for the fun of it. There's a purpose to all of these statements, even if that purpose is something other than what he's saying directly.

 

So any speculation as to why Greenland matters? What is hiding in or under there?

 

https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/113698764270730405

[Stocky]

(AI is your friend)

 

Greenland Mineral Resources
Greenland is rich in mineral resources. The country’s unique geology, shaped by millions of years of tectonic activity, has created a diverse array of mineral deposits. Here are some of the key mineral resources found in Greenland:

• Rare Earth Elements (REEs): Greenland is believed to have significant deposits of REEs, including neodymium, dysprosium, and samarium. The Kvanefjeld project, operated by Energy Transition Minerals Ltd, is one of the largest known REE deposits in the world.
• Zinc: Greenland has several zinc deposits, including the Kvanefjeld project, which also contains zinc. The country’s zinc resources are considered significant, with estimated reserves of over 1.5 million tonnes.
• Uranium: Although uranium mining is banned in Greenland, there are still significant uranium deposits, including the Kvanefjeld project. The country’s uranium resources are estimated to be around 368 million pounds (168,000 tonnes).
• Cobalt: Greenland has cobalt deposits, particularly in the Ilímaussaq alkaline complex, which is also rich in REEs.
• Nickel: The country has nickel deposits, including the Sarfartoq nickel-copper deposit.
• Iron ore: Greenland has significant iron ore deposits, including the Disko Bay iron ore project.
• Gold: There are several gold deposits in Greenland, including the Nalunaq gold mine, which operated from 2002 to 2015.
• Tantalum: Greenland has tantalum deposits, particularly in the Ilímaussaq alkaline complex.
• Niobium: The country has niobium deposits, often associated with tantalum and REEs.
• Lithium: Greenland has lithium deposits, including the Solo and Good Setting Lithium Projects in the James Bay region.

[mikebike]

20 hours ago, uncletiger said:

but Trump doesn't just make stuff up for the fun of it

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

By golly you are right. The man who fallated a microphone and sharpied a hurricane is playing 4d checkers again 🤣🤣🤣

[mikebike]

3 minutes ago, Stocky said:

(AI is your friend)

 

Greenland Mineral Resources
Greenland is rich in mineral resources. The country’s unique geology, shaped by millions of years of tectonic activity, has created a diverse array of mineral deposits. Here are some of the key mineral resources found in Greenland:

• Rare Earth Elements (REEs): Greenland is believed to have significant deposits of REEs, including neodymium, dysprosium, and samarium. The Kvanefjeld project, operated by Energy Transition Minerals Ltd, is one of the largest known REE deposits in the world.
• Zinc: Greenland has several zinc deposits, including the Kvanefjeld project, which also contains zinc. The country’s zinc resources are considered significant, with estimated reserves of over 1.5 million tonnes.
• Uranium: Although uranium mining is banned in Greenland, there are still significant uranium deposits, including the Kvanefjeld project. The country’s uranium resources are estimated to be around 368 million pounds (168,000 tonnes).
• Cobalt: Greenland has cobalt deposits, particularly in the Ilímaussaq alkaline complex, which is also rich in REEs.
• Nickel: The country has nickel deposits, including the Sarfartoq nickel-copper deposit.
• Iron ore: Greenland has significant iron ore deposits, including the Disko Bay iron ore project.
• Gold: There are several gold deposits in Greenland, including the Nalunaq gold mine, which operated from 2002 to 2015.
• Tantalum: Greenland has tantalum deposits, particularly in the Ilímaussaq alkaline complex.
• Niobium: The country has niobium deposits, often associated with tantalum and REEs.
• Lithium: Greenland has lithium deposits, including the Solo and Good Setting Lithium Projects in the James Bay region.

Ok. Lots of countries have those. The question Is WHY GL? Is it just that he thinks Greenland is the lowest hanging fruit? Does he really think juvenile school-yard bullying is going to work on the world stage? It didn't even work for him in NY real estate 🤔🤷

[Negita43]

4 minutes ago, Stocky said:

Greenland is rich in mineral resources.

Don't tell the Chinese!

[connda]

Speculate. What is in Greenland that makes Trump say it is vital to US security?

 

Trump will corning the ice-cube market!  "Ice Ice Baby!"

[Stocky]

1 hour ago, mikebike said:

Ok. Lots of countries have those

No they don't. Few countries have such a large mineral resource endowment, and those countries have exploited most of their mineral resources, certainly the easily extracted ones. Greenland, together with Antarctica, represent virgin unexplored land. Remember, the recognised deposits listed are just the ones around the edges, 80% of Greenland is still covered by an ice sheet.

[Walker88]

I can speculate. When I've heard him ranting about Greenland in his recent speeches, he's forever noting how BIG Greenland is. Given what Stormy has told us, plus his obsession with Arnold Palmer's junk, I do think big has something to do with his fascination, as the impish Universe seems to have withheld big from him, save for his belly.

 

Could be wrong, but it's as good an explanation as any. It isn't as if he's claiming the Northwest Territories or Antarctica or Baffin Island, all of which are not particularly well explored or exploited.

[Jingthing]

Global warming up there opening up much easier shipping routes.

[0ffshore360]

He just can't  get past sucking the middle finger .

[NoDisplayName]

On 12/23/2024 at 7:14 PM, uncletiger said:

So any speculation as to why Greenland matters?

 

It's the only available open space large enough to hold the Panama America canal once we repossess it.

[cjinchiangrai]

Short flight to Kiev when Vlad tells Trump to nuke Ukraine.

Lots of coastline for beach resorts and casinos.

lots of land for golf courses, just use orange balls.

[Hummin]

On 12/23/2024 at 7:14 PM, uncletiger said:

Yes Danes. The man who wrote the Art of the Deal is coming after Greenland and he's serious this time.  Looks like you're going to have to surrender that prime piece of real estate. Don't feel bad though. The US will also be annexing Canada, and wrenching the canal back from Panama.

 

Obviously more is going on than meets the eye. I'm not taking any of these statements at face value, but Trump doesn't just make stuff up for the fun of it. There's a purpose to all of these statements, even if that purpose is something other than what he's saying directly.

 

So any speculation as to why Greenland matters? What is hiding in or under there?

 

https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/113698764270730405

I'm just waiting for Putin to claim Svalbard! It is totally legit when Trump acts like he does

 

What a complete moron.

 

The Greenlenders have obviously nothing to say. Orign, Greenland belonged to Norway, 

[cjinchiangrai]

50 minutes ago, Hummin said:

I'm just waiting for Putin to claim Svalbard! It is totally legit when Trump acts like he does

 

What a complete moron.

 

The Greenlenders have obviously nothing to say. Orign, Greenland belonged to Norway, 

NATO might have quite a bit to say, to Putin's delight. Trump is being totally played.

[Will B Good]

On 12/23/2024 at 7:14 PM, uncletiger said:

Trump doesn't just make stuff up

 

Laugh? A bit nearly popped out.

[gamb00ler]

2 hours ago, Walker88 said:

I can speculate. When I've heard him ranting about Greenland in his recent speeches, he's forever noting how BIG Greenland is. Given what Stormy has told us, plus his obsession with Arnold Palmer's junk, I do think big has something to do with his fascination, as the impish Universe seems to have withheld big from him, save for his belly.

 

Could be wrong, but it's as good an explanation as any. It isn't as if he's claiming the Northwest Territories or Antarctica or Baffin Island, all of which are not particularly well explored or exploited.

What Trump certainly doesn't realize is that maps using the Mercator projection method severely exaggerate the size of Greenland.

 

Even though he loves to downplay climate change, Trump figures that soon Greenland will be prime waterfront property.  Don't forget he's the greatest at whatever he does or even thinks about.

[swissie]

On 12/24/2024 at 10:02 AM, Stocky said:

(AI is your friend)

 

Greenland Mineral Resources
Greenland is rich in mineral resources. The country’s unique geology, shaped by millions of years of tectonic activity, has created a diverse array of mineral deposits. Here are some of the key mineral resources found in Greenland:

• Rare Earth Elements (REEs): Greenland is believed to have significant deposits of REEs, including neodymium, dysprosium, and samarium. The Kvanefjeld project, operated by Energy Transition Minerals Ltd, is one of the largest known REE deposits in the world.
• Zinc: Greenland has several zinc deposits, including the Kvanefjeld project, which also contains zinc. The country’s zinc resources are considered significant, with estimated reserves of over 1.5 million tonnes.
• Uranium: Although uranium mining is banned in Greenland, there are still significant uranium deposits, including the Kvanefjeld project. The country’s uranium resources are estimated to be around 368 million pounds (168,000 tonnes).
• Cobalt: Greenland has cobalt deposits, particularly in the Ilímaussaq alkaline complex, which is also rich in REEs.
• Nickel: The country has nickel deposits, including the Sarfartoq nickel-copper deposit.
• Iron ore: Greenland has significant iron ore deposits, including the Disko Bay iron ore project.
• Gold: There are several gold deposits in Greenland, including the Nalunaq gold mine, which operated from 2002 to 2015.
• Tantalum: Greenland has tantalum deposits, particularly in the Ilímaussaq alkaline complex.
• Niobium: The country has niobium deposits, often associated with tantalum and REEs.
• Lithium: Greenland has lithium deposits, including the Solo and Good Setting Lithium Projects in the James Bay region.

As I wrote in another sub-forum here:

Secutity interests? This coming from a guy that is contemplating exiting NATO? The same guy calling global warming a HOAX, but he has realised that the Greenland ice is melting.

Below the ice, there are incredible amounts of raw materials of all sorts. To him, it's just another business deal: Secure those raw materials for the US.

[OneMoreFarang]

"What is in Greenland that makes Trump say it is vital to US security?"

 

That question implies that Trump knows what is important for the US security and it implies that he rationally thought about that.

I don't think any of that is how Trump "thinks".

 

John Bolton warns: I’m ‘very worried’ about how Trump would handle ‘much more likely’ international crisis | The Independent

Bolton, who served as Trump’s national security adviser from 2018 to 2019, told The Guardian the president-elect has an “inability to focus” and bases his decisions on personal relationships and “neuron flashes.”

[spidermike007]

Nothing much. This is a man who has made a career out of talking nonsense, he is semi insane and his brain just simply rambles in multiple directions. He has very few filters so when he thinks it, he says it, and it appears to make him an imbecile, a creep, and an idiot, all of which he is. In addition to being highly unstable mentally. 

[Cory1848]

On 12/24/2024 at 8:32 PM, Walker88 said:

I can speculate. When I've heard him ranting about Greenland in his recent speeches, he's forever noting how BIG Greenland is. Given what Stormy has told us, plus his obsession with Arnold Palmer's junk, I do think big has something to do with his fascination, as the impish Universe seems to have withheld big from him, save for his belly.

 

Could be wrong, but it's as good an explanation as any. It isn't as if he's claiming the Northwest Territories or Antarctica or Baffin Island, all of which are not particularly well explored or exploited.

You’re probably right -- a recent NYT article quotes him admiring how “massive” Greenland is, and how that reason alone means it should be part of the US. I seem to remember when he first raised this issue during his first administration, he was looking at a map and saw Alaska on the left-hand side of the continent, then wondered what that big thing was on the right-hand side, and how owning it would balance things out somehow.

 

I guess it’s just this sort of schoolboy idiocy that will direct US foreign policy for the next few years.

[cjinchiangrai]

It is all still just misdirection. They are trying to steal the government money.

[billd766]

An interesting thought.

 

If Trump cannot buy Greenland and invades Greenland then an an attack on ANY NATO country is an attack on all NATO countries and is to be repelled by all NATO countries. I suspect when NATO was set up nobody thought about one NATO member attacking another NATO country.

 

As the USA is still a NATO member (at least at the moment) I wonder what the NATO troops will do. At the very least they can kick all the US bases out of their respective countries, but will they retaliate against the US mainland?

 

Also if the US tries to annex Greenland, I wonder what the US troops would do if they are ordered to attack that country?

 

As an additional item, I  wonder what the US based troops would do if they are ordered to attack Panama?

[uncletiger]

Interesting thoughts on this subject. Thank you for the replies.

 

After watching how all this has developed, I personally am inclined to believe Scott Adams (of Dilbert fame) got closest to the mark of what is happening.  Trump is simply breaking the fake news.

 

 

With a few days perspective, I tend to agree that all of this is just distraction and misdirection. But I thoroughly discount that it is any kind of nefarious plot or dark agenda by Trump to steal wealth. What's going on here is a psyop much bigger in scope and with much larger consequences for humanity than a few dollars or resources. That is way too boring and menial for an operation that took this much planning and coordination. Expand your thinking. Whatever is coming, it's going to be bigger than any of us can imagine.

[harryviking]

Greenland should become independent. Denmark hasn't always been so nice to Greenland at all. Look at history. Annexing the Panama canal and Canada?? The man is an imbecile! The thing is that he probably mean to get something out of this that he is not mentioning at the moment! We just cannot take his word literally. We just have to wait and see what he actually mean! But I say he is an ignorant imbecile that have no clue of what kind of responses it could have internationally! This is dangerous talk!

[oslooskar]

On 12/28/2024 at 6:20 PM, spidermike007 said:

Nothing much. This is a man who has made a career out of talking nonsense, he is semi insane and his brain just simply rambles in multiple directions. He has very few filters so when he thinks it, he says it, and it appears to make him an imbecile, a creep, and an idiot, all of which he is. In addition to being highly unstable mentally. 

What baffles me more than anything else is that neither the Democrats nor the Republicans managed to come up with better presidential candidates.

[roquefort]

On 1/10/2025 at 3:43 PM, uncletiger said:

After watching how all this has developed, I personally am inclined to believe Scott Adams (of Dilbert fame) got closest to the mark of what is happening.  Trump is simply breaking the fake news.

 

It should be obvious by now that this is how Trump operates. Throw out an outrageous statement (the more outrageous the better) and while the media hacks are all choking over their coffee, everyone starts talking about a subject which was unthinkable before he said it. It's called the Overton window and it moves every time he pulls one of these stunts.

[Will B Good]

Just now, roquefort said:

It should be obvious by now that this is how Trump operates. Throw out an outrageous statement (the more outrageous the better) and while the media hacks are all choking over their coffee, everyone starts talking about a subject which was unthinkable before he said it. It's called the Overton window and it moves every time he pulls one of these stunts.

 

Spot on.

[Lacessit]

There is room for argument America could put more money into Greenland than Denmark does.

 

Having said that, Canada's debt is $1.5 trillion. The USA is $38 trillion. Any Canadians wanting to become the 51st state would have to have rocks in their head.

[Nid_Noi]

At least Trump managed to have people speak about him and his grandiose projects. 
People need to dream about exceptionnel ventures.

This is why Hollywood had its best times when they produced odysseys of conquest with megastars.
Something Biden failed gloriously at. Nobody is interested in DEI, ESG or transgenderism.

After all the fake Nobel Peace prizes given to Arafat, Peres, Rabin, Kofi Annan, the UN, Jimmy Carter, Al Gore, Obama, etc…Trump got nothing for the Abraham Accord.

Normalization and recognition between Israel and the Emirates with so many benefits coming out of those incredible partnerships. Peace treaties signed between UAE, Bahrain, Morocco and Sudan were deemed impossible as well as diplomatic representations, etc…

Even if Trump succeeds partially it shows the world that each human people needs to dream bigger to be successful and not wait sitting on his *ss for any social benefit coming from your gender, sexual orientation or skin colour.

[Delta Shift]

On 12/23/2024 at 12:14 PM, uncletiger said:

So any speculation as to why Greenland matters? What is hiding in or under there?

 

Natural resources

Access to the new polar commercial routes