Greenland

[candide]

On 12/28/2024 at 3:58 AM, candide said:

Not much, it seems....

 

"Five years ago, China expressed hopes for increased collaboration with the Nordic states in the Arctic. Chinese investments in Nordic mineral resources are still minimal, however, and none of the ambitious infrastructure projects discussed have come to fruition. The backlash against China in recent years has undoubtedly hindered its investment prospects in the region."

https://kinacentrum.se/en/publications/the-recent-backlash-against-china-in-the-nordic-arctic-prospects-for-future-chinese-engagement-in-the-region/

 

 

China failed its Arctic ambitions in Greenland

It appears both the West and Beijing itself have grossly overestimated Chinese expansion in Greenland.

https://www.politico.eu/article/china-arctic-greenland-united-states/

 

2 hours ago, theblether said:

 

Truth in that, however - China attempted their indebt policy by offering to build airports and a sea port. Using the Sri Lanka model if Greenland couldn't repay the debt China would write it off and impose a 99 year lease. That's exactly what happened to Sri Lanka's national port. 

 

But that's not the whole story. The sea port would have been for civilian maritime use. Naturally. The Chinese navy would call in from time to time on "friendship" visits. These "friendship" visits would be extended and become more frequent until China had effectively a permanent naval presence in the North Atlantic. 

 

Add similar to the three airports ( why a population of 56000 needs three airports is beyond me ) then you would see Chinese militarization of the bridge between North America and Europe. 

 

No one in their right mind wants that. If you think I'm making it up, check out what happened in Sri Lanka and what is currently happening in the South China Sea ( have a look at Africa too ). 

You are right about Sri Lanka. However, China already failed in Greenland, and in Nordic countries in general.

[candide]

2 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

You just know how this will play out. Just like everything else Trump says.

 

1)Trump says Greenland will become part of the US

2)left lose their minds, scream and wail and call DJT every slur invented.

3)time passes, DJTs triggering logic becomes accepted fact, Greenlanders decide they are better of in the US

4)the left say it was planned all along, nothing to do with DJT.

 

Or more likely 3) Greenlanders don't give a fxxx about Trump and it falls into the vast Trump B.S. dump.

[SunnyinBangrak]

13 minutes ago, candide said:

Or more likely 3) Greenlanders don't give a fxxx about Trump and it falls into the vast Trump B.S. dump.

How has your record been on all things Trump? Yes, we all remember😅

 

Greenlanders don't give a f. Really?

 

"My fear is that he could create the same kind of division here that he has in the US. We’re already seeing people wearing Maga caps. And I worry they’ll start rolling out a propaganda campaign, and start trying to influence our elections and how we run our country."

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jan/10/greenland-views-donald-trump-advances

 

Discounting the usual false smears - it was democrats and their false divisive narratives that split the USA, clearly Greenlanders are v much giving an f about this. And easy for Trump to gift every citizen a million bucks to vote to join the US. Cheaper than a military invasion and should please the heck out of 60k eskimos.

[candide]

22 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

How has your record been on all things Trump? Yes, we all remember😅

 

Greenlanders don't give a f. Really?

 

"My fear is that he could create the same kind of division here that he has in the US. We’re already seeing people wearing Maga caps. And I worry they’ll start rolling out a propaganda campaign, and start trying to influence our elections and how we run our country."

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jan/10/greenland-views-donald-trump-advances

 

Discounting the usual false smears - it was democrats and their false divisive narratives that split the USA, clearly Greenlanders are v much giving an f about this. And easy for Trump to gift every citizen a million bucks to vote to join the US. Cheaper than a military invasion and should please the heck out of 60k eskimos.

So some random guys wear a MAGA cap, and you consider it as a relevant indicator?

[Will B Good]

[theblether]

8 hours ago, candide said:

Or more likely 3) Greenlanders don't give a fxxx about Trump and it falls into the vast Trump B.S. dump.

 

The fact they tried at all should ring alarm bells. 

[thaibeachlovers]

11 hours ago, theblether said:

 

Drivel. He's not President yet. You're just projecting and speculating. 

 

By the way, did you notice Democrats swinging behind the Laken Riley Act? Even they have had enough of the "sanctuary city" stupidity. 

Nah, it's just wishin' and hopin', and doomed to yet another disappointment in life when it doesn't happen.

[candide]

Greenlanders Were Flipping Off Don Jr., Local Politician Says 😆

“No journalists were allowed to interview him,” Pipaluk Lynge, an MP for Greenland’s largest party, told Politico. “It was all staged to make it seem like we—the Greenlandic people—were MAGA and love to be a part of the USA.”

Lynge added that although Greenlanders paid attention to the visit, their interest wasn’t overwhelmingly positive. “People were curious, but some took pictures giving him [the] finger at the airport… Some wrote on Facebook: yankee go home,” she said.

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/greenlanders-were-flipping-off-don-185742127.html

[thaibeachlovers]

5 hours ago, Will B Good said:

Anything to contribute other than some stupidity from Tik Tok?

[theblether]

2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Nah, it's just wishin' and hopin', and doomed to yet another disappointment in life when it doesn't happen.

 

He says about the guy who won the Presidency against all odds twice. 

[morrobay]

On 12/24/2024 at 4:02 PM, mikebike said:

Can someone please explain to me why, in god's name, Trump thinks that "for national security and freedom the ownership and control of Greenland is an absolute necessity"? 🤔🤪🫣🥱

No one has to explain anything to you. Trump is the U.S. president. Greenland is crawling with Russians and Chinese including ships. The Panama canal was built by the US and it belongs to the US. The open Southern border is going to be closed until these illegals are rounded up . Executive actions are in order for above for starters. Get used to it or ship out. And if your not a US citizen ya all have worn out your welcome here butting into US affairs. Best mind your sh"t show across the Atlantic 

[Hummin]

22 minutes ago, morrobay said:

No one has to explain anything to you. Trump is the U.S. president. Greenland is crawling with Russians and Chinese including ships. The Panama canal was built by the US and it belongs to the US. The open Southern border is going to be closed until these illegals are rounded up . Executive actions are in order for above for starters. Get used to it or ship out. And if your not a US citizen ya all have worn out your welcome here butting into US affairs. Best mind your sh"t show across the Atlantic 

Even Putin seems like an good guy when you magas follow up your der fuhrer commands and instructions. 

 

You guys are full of fear mongering propaganda and willing to take completely world dominance wiht your mafia tactics. The world doesnt work like that. 

 

Usa have to accept there is more powerful players in this world, and not just one

[spidermike007]

Trump spends his days talking nonsense. This is nothing new. Buffoons need  to be ignored when they say stuff that is beyond ridiculous. It is his M.O. That is what he does. Trump is  at least semi insane, and grossly misinformed on nearly everything, does not help. 

[Yagoda]

1 hour ago, Hummin said:

Even Putin seems like an good guy when you magas follow up your der fuhrer commands and instructions. 

 

You guys are full of fear mongering propaganda and willing to take completely world dominance wiht your mafia tactics. The world doesnt work like that. 

 

Usa have to accept there is more powerful players in this world, and not just one

We dont have to accept anything. Get on our wagon or get off, your country doesnt matter much.

 

PS Fuhrers are unique to National Socialism, not our capitalist republican system.

[Hummin]

6 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

We dont have to accept anything. Get on our wagon or get off, your country doesnt matter much.

 

Shouting lod and clear from Cambodia. Impressive, your opinions matters, just sad there is so many of you uneducated paranoid lost souls who actually voted for Trump. 

 

Enjoy your sheep drugs and sheep ladies with no cough reflexes. You continue to impress me every day you post something of value.

 

Will make sure you read this post even I have to message you it personally. 

 

I'm logging off the forum. To much stupidity going on, and wasting my time. 

 

Goodbye, wish you all good in life

 

[Merrill]

On 12/25/2024 at 9:09 AM, theblether said:

The OP is clearly trolling as no one can be this stupid, and that goes for the rest of you agreeing with him. 

 

China has a clear indebt and control strategy. Sri Lanka lost its primary shipping port to China for 99 years when they failed to repay a debt. 

 

China has already proposed building two airports in Greenland. As pointed out by others it would be easy for China to enrich the sparse population. Enrich then control. 

 

Unbelievably Denmark encouraged Chinese investment in the airports. Tell me, which one of you clowns wants China to control an airport that can strike Europe and North America? 

 

The USA doesn't and Trump killed the notion stone dead last time. 

 

Denmark has announced $1.5 billion for Greenland defence, a contribution to Arctic and NATO security. They even admitted that they had neglected their responsibilities and realized that the USA would never allow Russia or China to gain military access to the island. They know if that was a possibility any US President would annex the place. 

 

So this is already a win for Trump. It cost him nothing to warn the Danes they better get their act together. And you can look forward to annual exercises at the newly funded airport by USAF as its being expanded specifically to handle NATO fighter jets at Danish expense.

 

Trump might well do something stupid in the next four years. This is not it. 

 

Yip the west has to dominate. Can you imagine if Putin wanted it or China whatever next. I mean we almost have all the Middle East. Anyways if they don’t sell we can always start a war bomb the Duck out of them coz must have WMDs someplace.

.

 

[Yagoda]

51 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Shouting lod and clear from Cambodia. Impressive, your opinions matters, just sad there is so many of you uneducated paranoid lost souls who actually voted for Trump. 

 

Enjoy your sheep drugs and sheep ladies with no cough reflexes. You continue to impress me every day you post something of value.

 

Will make sure you read this post even I have to message you it personally. 

 

I'm logging off the forum. To much stupidity going on, and wasting my time. 

 

Goodbye, wish you all good in life

 

Bye. Might be some construction work for you at our bases in Greenland.

[GypsyT]

Greenland should quickly join NATO.

Then, by the rules, US has to send troops to defend it against enemies....

 

[NoDisplayName]

18 hours ago, candide said:

So some random guys wear a MAGA cap, and you consider it as a relevant indicator?

 

Not random at all, it seems.

 

Busted! Trump’s Greenland Supporters Were Homeless and Socially Disadvantaged People Bribed With Hotel Dinners

 

...DR News reported on others who were able to identify individuals who traded support for a nice meal at a hotel. Trump's team found one of the men living under a bridge. This isn’t the first time Trump has staged events.

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/busted-trump-s-greenland-supporters-were-homeless-and-socially-disadvantaged-people-bribed-with-hotel-dinners/ar-BB1rboRT

[NoDisplayName]

19 minutes ago, GypsyT said:

Greenland should quickly join NATO.

Then, by the rules, US has to send troops to defend it against enemies....

 

 

Ummmm.............Greenland is in NATO, within the Kingdom of Denmark.  As of last year, they have diplomatic representation as part of the Danish delegation.

[SunnyinBangrak]

20 minutes ago, GypsyT said:

Greenland should quickly join NATO.

Then, by the rules, US has to send troops to defend it against enemies....

 

Rules are thrown out the window at NATO. They lost the plot by pretending Ukraine is in NATO so they could go to war with Russia(because the hatred ran so deep due to the fake news russia russia russia hoax). NATO is due a major shakeup which i think Trump will achieve. Its supposed to make the world safer not instigate nuclear armaggedon.

 

They havent the stones to interfere with Trumps democratic takeover of Greenland sorry.

[candide]

1 hour ago, GypsyT said:

Greenland should quickly join NATO.

Then, by the rules, US has to send troops to defend it against enemies....

 

It's already part of NATO and there is a U.S. base there....

[stevenl]

1 hour ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Rules are thrown out the window at NATO. They lost the plot by pretending Ukraine is in NATO so they could go to war with Russia(because the hatred ran so deep due to the fake news russia russia russia hoax). NATO is due a major shakeup which i think Trump will achieve. Its supposed to make the world safer not instigate nuclear armaggedon.

 

They havent the stones to interfere with Trumps democratic takeover of Greenland sorry.

This doesn't make any sense at all. But please explain how you see a democratic takeover of Greenland.

[NoDisplayName]

2 minutes ago, stevenl said:

This doesn't make any sense at all. But please explain how you see a democratic takeover of Greenland.

 

Aw, c'mon, Steve.

You should know how it works by now.

 

If WE do it, it's democratic.

When THEY do it, it's subversion.

[SunnyinBangrak]

19 minutes ago, stevenl said:

This doesn't make any sense at all. But please explain how you see a democratic takeover of Greenland.

Either

 

1)pay each resident say $1m if they vote to become part of the USA. = Conservative capitalism democracy

 

Or 2) give secret millions to current Greenland govt to open borders- a la Soros - whereby 61,000 American PATRIOTS enter Greenland and because of no id allowed in voting(again more dark $$ to govt - soros stylee) they win in a democratic vote to become America.

Liberal style migration/electoral shennanigan democracy.

 

Any questions?

 

 

[stevenl]

45 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Either

 

1)pay each resident say $1m if they vote to become part of the USA. = Conservative capitalism democracy

 

Or 2) give secret millions to current Greenland govt to open borders- a la Soros - whereby 61,000 American PATRIOTS enter Greenland and because of no id allowed in voting(again more dark $$ to govt - soros stylee) they win in a democratic vote to become America.

Liberal style migration/electoral shennanigan democracy.

 

Any questions?

 

 

You've totally lost it.

 

But i'd day option 1, collect and vote for no change. Which brings us back to where we are now, mut all greenlanders 1 mio richer and musk a bit lighter but he won't care.

[candide]

2 hours ago, NoDisplayName said:

 

Not random at all, it seems.

 

Busted! Trump’s Greenland Supporters Were Homeless and Socially Disadvantaged People Bribed With Hotel Dinners

 

...DR News reported on others who were able to identify individuals who traded support for a nice meal at a hotel. Trump's team found one of the men living under a bridge. This isn’t the first time Trump has staged events.

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/busted-trump-s-greenland-supporters-were-homeless-and-socially-disadvantaged-people-bribed-with-hotel-dinners/ar-BB1rboRT

Son of his father! 

[candide]

1 hour ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Either

 

1)pay each resident say $1m if they vote to become part of the USA. = Conservative capitalism democracy

 

Or 2) give secret millions to current Greenland govt to open borders- a la Soros - whereby 61,000 American PATRIOTS enter Greenland and because of no id allowed in voting(again more dark $$ to govt - soros stylee) they win in a democratic vote to become America.

Liberal style migration/electoral shennanigan democracy.

 

Any questions?

 

 

Question: did you make that up by yourself?

[theblether]

Left wingers are all over the place re Greenland. The bottom line is that China tried to buy influence and Trump put an end to it last time round. 

 

Full stop. 

 

A definite win for the West and USA. And as a result the Danes have dramatically increased their defense spending on the island. Yet another win for Trump and the USA. 

 

So what now? A Reaganite invasion aka Grenada? Or a Monroe Doctrine treaty locking Greenland firmly within the US orbit while recognizing Danish interests? 

 

I predict the second option. But the left wing will still go nuts because in their heart of hearts they would rather US national interests were undermined than give Trump a victory. 

 

Unluckily for them, several Democrat Senators are siding with Trump in a way unseen in his first term. 

 

The gibbering clowns on this forum are going to get a rapid introduction to realpolitik as many Democrat politicians see an opportunity to push their Dirt Road/Blue Dog agenda. 

 

Not every Democrat politician is grabbed by the left. The first 100 days of this administration may well be the most consequential in US history. 

 

 

[thaibeachlovers]

18 hours ago, morrobay said:

The Panama canal was built by the US and it belongs to the US.

That's a bit cheeky considering the US stopped Britain and France reclaiming the Suez after Nasser nationalized it. They built it and it was theirs too.

I guess the Americans don't like it when it's their problem.