Slashing welfare': GOP eyes chopping $5 trillion to pay for Trump priorities — like tax cuts

[Lacessit]

9 hours ago, EVENKEEL said:

It's telling that no one has responded to your post. The liberals don't like the truth. It's time for tough love.

 

Maybe it's because no-one has heard of Thomas Sowell until now.

 

Quite eminent, obviously. A guy who opposes gun control and supports decriminalization of drugs sounds schizophrenic to me.

 

IME the people who talk about fiscal responsibility and tough love are the ones with the biggest tax breaks.

[Justanotherone]

who understand in his/her right mind , that a TRILLION DOLLARS of tax payer's money goes to pay interest on the debt to private bankers in charge of 'printing' money out of thin air

 

they might have killed JFK over it, but come one... much good could be done with that if not given to private greedy bankers...

 

[thaipo7]

On 1/12/2025 at 3:31 PM, Isaan sailor said:

Welfare is a good place to start.  There are multiple generations on public welfare—with absent fathers and higher welfare payments for each additional child.  President Clinton instituted a work for welfare program.  We should revisit the program.

How about all the Left Wing groups being funded by our taxes?  Obama started this.  It has only gotten larger.

[Hawaiian]

8 hours ago, simple1 said:

 

No idea I don't have access to the stats, but don't you believe people earning a reasonably high income can have a hold on additional tax cuts to support the less well off?. I'm sure you're well aware the wealthiest country is the world, USA, in the only G20 country without Universal Health Care - a somewhat ridiculous ideological position.

It would be interesting to see the statistics that compare how much the U.S. contributes in aid to illegal immigrants, the U.N. and its many agencies, and international disaster relief, to other G20 countries.  Have I missed any other similar contributions?  Maybe this might shed some light on where all the money is going to.

 

[candide]

18 minutes ago, Hawaiian said:

It would be interesting to see the statistics that compare how much the U.S. contributes in aid to illegal immigrants, the U.N. and its many agencies, and international disaster relief, to other G20 countries.  Have I missed any other similar contributions?  Maybe this might shed some light on where all the money is going to.

 

Here you are. It took around 3 mn using Google.

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/foreign-aid-given-as-a-share-of-national-income-net

[EVENKEEL]

2 hours ago, Lacessit said:

Maybe it's because no-one has heard of Thomas Sowell until now.

 

Quite eminent, obviously. A guy who opposes gun control and supports decriminalization of drugs sounds schizophrenic to me.

 

IME the people who talk about fiscal responsibility and tough love are the ones with the biggest tax breaks.

Thomas Sowell is an American economist, economic historian, social philosopher and political commentator. He is a senior fellow at the Hoover Institution.

 

 

[Jingthing]

6 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

Thomas Sowell is an American economist, economic historian, social philosopher and political commentator. He is a senior fellow at the Hoover Institution.

 

 

Hoover Institution -- right wing think tank.

[cdnvic]

Removed a post that intentionally misspelled a person's name.

[John Drake]

2 hours ago, Peabody said:

Let's talk military budget.

 

An entire military overhaul might be needed. All volunteer military is too expensive. Bring back the draft. Lots of benefits: young people learn discipline; pay is reduced to that appropriate for national service; and best of all deployment to foreign wars becomes much more difficult when the entire society is at risk of seeing family sent to fight instead of just those desperate for military benefits.

[John Drake]

1 hour ago, candide said:

Here you are. It took around 3 mn using Google.

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/foreign-aid-given-as-a-share-of-national-income-net

 

Where does funding for illegals, refugees, and asylum seekers fit in that chart? That was the biggest component of what he was asking about.

[John Drake]

3 hours ago, SiSePuede419 said:

So you're against Republican tax cuts going to foreign owners of US corporations then?

 

Because that's where US taxpayer dollars go if corporate rates are cut.

 

Sure you are, Cubby.  Sure you are. 🙄

 

You've misread me. I don't favor tax cuts for billionaires being renewed either.

[tony2times]

Maybe not give Billions to Israel to Murder Little Children and a Coke Snorting Comedian in Ukraine,That could save Money for Americans instead 🤔

[candide]

19 minutes ago, John Drake said:

 

Where does funding for illegals, refugees, and asylum seekers fit in that chart? That was the biggest component of what he was asking about.

He asked about:

how much the U.S. contributes in aid to illegal immigrants, the U.N. and its many agencies, and international disaster relief,

 

If you are not happy with it, I am sorry. Have a try by yourself.

[mrwebb8825]

18 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Without getting into tax cuts for anyone, too many bludgers exploit welfare because governments are too gutless to do anything about it. Other than genuine health problems, and old age pensions, no one that is fit should be getting welfare.

Agreed. I always thought there should be a 'mandatory draft' for ALL capable welfare recipients 17-35, to serve 4-6 years in the military. They'd learn valuable skills, save for higher education after, get free healthcare, free housing, free food, free clothing AND get paid. Best welfare system ever created only you maintain self respect by earning it.

15 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Enough to live on and have a decent place to live in and afford health care.

Drinking alcohol, smoking, using illegal drugs, internet, travel, entertainment and recreation etc not included.

Are you going to be 1st in line to sign up to give away ALL the money YOU worked to earn (save ONLY NEEDED expenses - determined by...) so others can sponge?

[mrwebb8825]

On the topic of welfare cuts; they should redirect those cuts to the SS system.

How much has welfare increased? Since funding for the War on Poverty ramped up in 1967, welfare payments received by the average work-age household in the bottom quintile of income recipients has risen from $7,352 in inflation-adjusted 2022 dollars to $64,700 in 2022, the last year with available household income data.  Sep 12, 2024

compare that to SS: Over the last decade the cost-of-living adjustment (COLA) increase has averaged about 2.6%. The COLA was 3.2% in 2024. Nearly 68 million Social Security beneficiaries will see a 2.5% COLA beginning in January 2025. Increased payments to nearly 7.5 million people receiving SSI will begin on December 31, 2024.  Oct 10, 2024

IMHO it kinda sucks that the same people who paid for both and the only 1 that ones endangered of the funds drying up.

[mogandave]

On 1/12/2025 at 3:19 PM, simple1 said:

So much for protecting the less fortunate...

 

House Republicans are circulating a “menu” of options that Speaker Mike Johnson’s conference could chose from—reportedly a massive $5 trillion worth of federal government programs to put on the chopping block to pay for the President-elect’s promised priorities, including tax cuts and border security.

 

'Slashing welfare': GOP eyes chopping $5 trillion to pay for Trump priorities — like tax cuts

So AlterNet is paraphrasing Politico, it must be true. 

 

 

[Hawaiian]

5 hours ago, John Drake said:

 

Where does funding for illegals, refugees, and asylum seekers fit in that chart? That was the biggest component of what he was asking about.

Thanks.  I did not get a chance to checkout the figures.

[Hawaiian]

5 hours ago, candide said:

He asked about:

how much the U.S. contributes in aid to illegal immigrants, the U.N. and its many agencies, and international disaster relief,

 

If you are not happy with it, I am sorry. Have a try by yourself.

Read my post again.  I intentionally placed a comma between U.S. aid to illegal immigrants and contributions to the U.N. and it's agencies. 

I appreciate your attempt, but it does not furnish where probably most of the money is spent.