Banged up: Thai prison nightmare exposed by British tourist

[Stiddle Mump]

16 hours ago, KhunLA said:

It's the DailyMail, from anonymous source 

 

Photos from inside the prison, with a stack of snacks no less 🙄

Pringles! Cola! Cheese biscuits! A fan? And they are wearing shorts?

 

Don't get fans in a Moroccan nic.

[Stiddle Mump]

20 minutes ago, BritScot said:

What utter ludicrous dribble! You need to read the history of the area/middle east. Israel, was well within its right to go in just the same as America did in Iraq! Israel has shown extream diligence and done everything to save innocent lives. However, don't forget the human shields used by these despicable terrorists. Hiding in hospitals, schools and public housing projects.  All of these things are banned and highly illegal. Israel should be praised for its restrain!!! 

Interesting take on the extermination of the Semites.

 

Another instance of Europeans taking over a foreign land. A bit of a track record for that. Canada. US. Oz. South America.

 

[Reddavy]

On 1/20/2025 at 6:25 PM, webfact said:

Picture courtesy of The Daily Mail

 

by Bob Scott 

A British tourist revealed the grim conditions banged up abroad in a Thai prison and issued a chilling warning to fellow travellers about the reality of being detained abroad.

 

The 29 year old former soldier, who wished to remain anonymous, endured a 15-day ordeal in two police cells and a Bangkok deportation centre after overstaying his visa, a blunder he deeply regrets.

“The only way I can describe it is hell.”

 

Held with 130 other people in a stifling room devoid of ventilation, he added, “We could only go out for an hour a week.”

The grim picture didn’t end there. Guards would distribute food in trays washed on the filthy bathroom floor using cold water.

 

“Everywhere I stayed was infested with fire ants and cockroaches. The rubbish just piled up in a corner.”

Pictures courtesy of The Daily Mail

His Thai adventure began with hope and ambition in April of the previous year, as he planned to settle and start a business. However, his dreams crumbled in November when a spat with an ex landed him in hot water in Pattaya.

Police, alerted to his visa status, arrested him and dragged him to court, claiming he had overstayed by a few days.

 

“The police were very violent. Two officers ambushed me in a public toilet and beat me. They threw me onto the flatbed of a truck and cuffed me to the side.”

 

Dazed and disoriented, the British man suspected he suffered a concussion and was left in the dark about his fate until Russian cellmates enlightened him about the process.

 

“They lent me money to pay my court fine, otherwise, it would have been much worse.”

 

Packed into a cramped police cell measuring six-by-four feet alongside eight other inmates, he resorted to bribery to make life fractionally more bearable.

 

The prisoners jostled for space and struggled to rest, with no room to lie down properly.

 

“There was a pregnant girl from Laos who was really struggling, always crying with her head on the floor. It was horrible, especially as another cell, the same size, was packed with 13 people.”

 

After eight gruelling days in Pattaya, he was moved to Bangkok’s deportation centre, where behaviour worsened. Sharing four grim toilets with 130 detainees, they relied on a bucket of cold water for cleaning and bathing.

 

Weekends granted an hour of fresh air in a roofless, barred area, barely a respite.

 

“A guy sold pot noodles in one corner. That’s all I’d eat.”

 

 

His mother fought tooth and nail with the British embassy to secure his release, eventually getting him flown home. It cost 500 baht (£11.94) per night for his stay at the deportation centre, plus airfare.

 

Remarkably, the British tourist managed to smuggle a phone inside, hidden in baby wipes, to capture the conditions, the Daily Mail reported.

 

“Once you’re locked in, you have zero contact and no way to access money. Someone outside must fight for you. I’m fortunate I sneaked my phone inside and my mum contacted the embassy, otherwise, I’d still be stuck there.”

His experience served as a stark warning to travellers.

 

“Don’t risk overstaying your visa thinking it’s just a small fine. It’s not worth becoming a victim of this.”

 

 

Bitter from his ordeal, he declared he would never return to Thailand. He criticised the system as a “cash-making scheme” for the government, claiming that tourism, the backbone of Thailand’s economy, exploits foreigners through such detentions.

 

The former soldier’s ordeal serves as a sobering reminder of the consequences of visa lapses and the stark realities lurking behind Thailand’s tourist veneer, urging cautious adherence to immigration laws to avoid a similar nightmare.

 

 

 

Source: The Thaiger 

-- 2025-01-20

 

 

Banged up for a few days overstay……Nahhhh don’t believe it. More to this story than he’s telling for sure

[bannork]

1 hour ago, BritScot said:

What utter ludicrous dribble! You need to read the history of the area/middle east. Israel, was well within its right to go in just the same as America did in Iraq! Israel has shown extream diligence and done everything to save innocent lives. However, don't forget the human shields used by these despicable terrorists. Hiding in hospitals, schools and public housing projects.  All of these things are banned and highly illegal. Israel should be praised for its restrain!!! 

Israel have been communicating atrocities on the Palestinians since 1948. They are not a civilised nation.

[Nick Carter icp]

3 minutes ago, bannork said:

Israel have been communicating atrocities on the Palestinians since 1948. They are not a civilised nation.

 

  Which Coutries are "civilised nations " ?

Which Countries haven't been involved in any wars ?

[Marco100]

5 hours ago, har0165 said:

" However, his dreams crumbled in November when a spat with an ex landed him in hot water in Pattaya."

 

Going into business with a girl you met in Pattaya will never end well. 

She has all the leverage in this country, the moment she's had enough of you, you're screwed.

Protect yourself.

Sounds like a good advise 👌🏼 . Need to be add in the Travel advice 😂😂

[Will B Good]

9 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

  Which Coutries are "civilised nations " ?

Which Countries haven't been involved in any wars ?

 

Switzerland

Iceland

Costa Rica

Liechtenstein

Bhutan

Vanuatu

et al

[Nick Carter icp]

Just now, Will B Good said:

 

Switzerland

Iceland

Costa Rica

Liechtenstein

Bhutan

Vanuatu

et al

 

   That's an extremely small amount of Countries who have never been ar war , considering there are 200 odd Countries in the World

[Will B Good]

3 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   That's an extremely small amount of Countries who have never been ar war , considering there are 200 odd Countries in the World

 

195 countries.....but you asked the question and I was good enough to answer.

 

"country, countries, country's"....do not need to be capitalised.

 

 

[proton]

35 minutes ago, bannork said:

Israel have been communicating atrocities on the Palestinians since 1948. They are not a civilised nation.

 

Israel was attacked by 5 Arab (not Palestinian) armies the day after it was established, they have been defending themselves ever since from muslim hatred.

[TedG]

4 hours ago, Taboo2 said:

Why mention the USA,.,,,the more run is from the UK....not America! 

I think these prisions are inhuman. 

[bannork]

1 hour ago, proton said:

 

Israel was attacked by 5 Arab (not Palestinian) armies the day after it was established, they have been defending themselves ever since from muslim hatred.

What would feel like if the UK was given to another nation? Of course the Arabs hated the Israelis taking their land, anyone would.

[KhunHeineken]

2 hours ago, BritScot said:

Israel, was well within its right to go in just the same as America did in Iraq! I

Firstly, I never once said Israel should not have "gone in." 

 

Secondly, don't you mean Afghanistan, not Iraq?

 

The world was sold a lie for the invasion of Iraq, unless YOU know where Saddam's weapons of mass destruction are.  (WMD)  

 

3 hours ago, BritScot said:

Israel has shown extream diligence and done everything to save innocent lives.

Rubbish.

 

The world can clearly see food and water (Aid) was used as a weapon of war. 

 

The civilian casualties shows Israel used collective punishment as a weapon of war. 

 

90% of the people in Gaza have been displaced. 

 

The International Criminal Court (ICC) issued a arrant for Netanyahu for crimes against humanity, and war crimes.  Is the Court wrong?

 

Two thirds of the dead are women and children. 

 

3 hours ago, BritScot said:

However, don't forget the human shields used by these despicable terrorists. Hiding in hospitals, schools and public housing projects. 

Perhaps you would like to post your ethical and moral stance on this issue. 

 

Example:  Is is acceptable to kill 5 non combatants just to kill one combatant?

 

Is it acceptable to kill 10 non combatants to kill 1 combatant?

 

Is it acceptable to kill 50 non combatants to kill 1 combatant?

 

And so on. 

 

What do YOU think is an acceptable kill ratio? 

 

Also, how do you even know there was a combatant in amongst the non combatant population.  Israel controlled all the journalist access and just released some of their own propaganda.

 

3 hours ago, BritScot said:

All of these things are banned and highly illegal.

So is indiscriminate killing. 

 

There's a reason why the ICC issued a warrant.  The evidence is overwhelming. 

 

3 hours ago, BritScot said:

Israel should be praised for its restrain!!! 

They have dropped the equivalent of two nuclear bombs in a highly populated area, without allowing anyone to leave, and you call that restraint? 

 

https://euromedmonitor.org/en/article/5908/Israel-hits-Gaza-Strip-with-the-equivalent-of-two-nuclear-bombs

 

You can hear about Israel's "restraint" first hand from an IDF whistleblower.  

 

 

[KhunHeineken]

5 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

    The descendants of the 1945 victims of Nazis are making sure that it never happens again .

   Palestinians in 2025 want to continues where the Nazis left off in 1944.

Israel are taking steps to make sure that it doesn't again .

   Supporting Palestinians will make history repeat itself 

The Israeli's have occupied for decades, against international law.  The two state solution should have already been happening for decades.  

 

What I find interesting in the rise in antisemitism around the world.  People who have witnessed the horror in the news coming out of Gaza have joined protests against Israel.

 

I accept your comment, but one must question if this war has created more antisemitism due to the war crimes and crimes against humanity that are taking place.   

[KhunHeineken]

8 hours ago, Donga said:

Strange how Hamas are causing the horrid miseries of the innocent Palestinians. Annoying media parrots Hamas numbers:

 

1) Without recognising how many killed are Hamas - around half which is low for urban warfare, especially where one side is using human shields - firing missiles from school, mosques and hospitals
2) Calling teenagers, children when many of these "children" are also firing weapons from said school, hospitals.

Until Palestinians can throw off these crazy f**ks they will continue to be impoverished, especially as Iran funds Hamas not Gazans, and so much money goes to weapons and tunnels etc., but also because none of the moderate Arab nations will get involved until Palestinians can sort themselves out - why would they muck with such morons.

Free Palestine - from Jihadists!

And KhunHeineken - would love to know who would lead a Palestinian state today, pls tell. Be PA? Fatah, Hamas? Who? How?

Meanwhile, don't overstay your visa, though agree there does seem to be more behind this story.

No comment on the decades long illegal occupation, and the failure to allow a two state solution, not to mention the Israeli settlements in the West Bank? 

 

Any comment on the war crimes and crimes against humanity taking place?  Should Israel get a free pass?

 

I don't know where you are from, but would you fight if your country was occupied? 

 

In Vietnam it was called "gorilla warfare."  Since 9/11 it is called "terrorism."  Not much difference when you are engaging an occupier.  

 

The Taliban recently took back their country. 

 

As for who would lead a Palestinian state today, who cares?  It could even be a tyrant. 

 

In my opinion it should be like North and South Korea.  Heavily fortified to keep the two apart.  Kim is one of the members of the "axis of evil" and is just over the fence from South Koren, and have there been any wars since? 

 

Yes, more to the story.  Whilst his passport and and abiding by Thailand's immigration laws was his responsibility, I sense the ex has had some influence to control the outcome. 

[ericbj]

 

Was this a crime, a misdemeanour, or a simple offence, of which the alleged culprit was apparently charged but not convicted?

 

Of course one realises that Thai law likely lacks such classifications.  But nonetheless the point is that there are differing degrees of criminality.

 

His overstay of several days, as alleged by the police, might have been unintentional, arising from unforeseen circumstances.  It would still have been illegal.  But with mitigating circumstances.

 

Moreover, did the accused resist arrest, necessitating the employment of violence in order to overpower him?

 

Perhaps I look upon the matter from a slanted point of view.

 

As a former native affairs officer in the New Guinea bush in the 1960s, combining various functions including that of officer of the Field Constabulary, RP&NGC, magistrate, and i/c the local Corrective Institution. (Leading to somewhat bizarre circumstances such as signing detention orders in one capacity to myself in another capacity).

 

Convicted criminals had obligations but also rights, including rations, the same as for labourers but without tobacco.  And they could not be subjected to violence.  Nor could violence be used when making an arrest, except as necessary to overcome resistance.  In an as yet uncontrolled area, it was forbidden to fire upon hostile villagers except as a last resort to prevent death or grievous bodily harm.

Of course that was back in the bad old colonial days!

[thespecialist6]

On 1/20/2025 at 6:58 PM, tgw said:

 

I agree to some extent, but not for people whose only "crime" was to overstay a visa by some days.

 

The conditions of detention in Norway and some other countries are disgusting.

I almost forgot to go and get my stamp after new year and just did it 7 days over the date I was supposed to go , as they give you 7 days over to do it .

[KhunHeineken]

10 hours ago, Ben Zioner said:

Neither, Kennedy, Johnson nor Nixon were accused of war crimes, yet they caused the death or Millions of Vietnamese. War is war, even in the Middle East, and only those who started it are damnable.

 

Interesting post. 

 

Funny how one person's freedom fighter is another person's terrorist. 

 

Do you think the ICC should be dissolved, war being war and all?  

 

'Those who started it" mmmm, well, what about Israeli occupation and illegal settlements?  Same question to you, if your country was occupied, would you fight? 

 

The Vietnam War changed warfare forever.  One's enemy now hides among the general population.  Recently worked for the Taliban. 

 

It's interesting that Netanyahu was facing corruption charges and gaol in Israel, and the only thing keeping him out of gaol is the war. 

 

Have you seen the protests in Israel?  Not dissimilar to the protests in America during the Vietnam war. 

 

Netanyahu's brother was killed by a Palestinian terrorists.  Do you think it has clouded his judgement? 

[Nick Carter icp]

43 minutes ago, KhunHeineken said:

The Israeli's have occupied for decades, against international law.  The two state solution should have already been happening for decades.  

 

What I find interesting in the rise in antisemitism around the world.  People who have witnessed the horror in the news coming out of Gaza have joined protests against Israel.

 

I accept your comment, but one must question if this war has created more antisemitism due to the war crimes and crimes against humanity that are taking place.   

 

   

The two state solution has been rejected by the Palestinian side on numerous occasions , Palestinians want the who land for themselves and no Israel state on the land .

   The only war crimes have been those committed by the Palestinians .

Israel left Gaza about 20 odd years ago, unoccupied Gaza , although Gaza will need to be occupied again by someone now as they cannot be trusted to live in peace 

 

[Nick Carter icp]

9 minutes ago, KhunHeineken said:

. 

Have you seen the protests in Israel?  Not dissimilar to the protests in America during the Vietnam war. 

 

 

   Nope , completely different protests .

They were anti war protests in the USA opposing the Vietnam war , the protests in Israel just oppose Netanyahu , they are not opposed to the war in Gaza .

   The Anti Netanyahu protests have been occurring before the war began .

   The protests in Israel are not about stopping the war , Isrealis know that the war needs to happen 

[KhunHeineken]

15 hours ago, Andre0720 said:

So just have a look at what is really happening in Palestine right now.

Palestine is fueled by hatred, which leads to its desire to more and more war.

As long as kids will be taught to 'hate' as well, no peace will happen there....

And as long as hate is kept as a primary emotion in Palestine, history will indeed repeat itself...

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CClvwPz43mc

 

If you were  non combatant, but all of your family were wiped out, you would pick up a gun, right?  

 

Yes, all Israel has achieved is creating another generation or two of hate, but as I said in another post, it's interesting that the hate is spreading around the world, as it did in Germany all those years ago.

 

Just as non combatants become combatants, people are becoming antisemitic, and it's because of the horrors they are witnessing on the news out of Gaza. 

 

The Israeli's celebrate as well.  As I said, one man's freedom fighter is another man's terrorist.  

 

 

 

[Nick Carter icp]

4 minutes ago, KhunHeineken said:

If you were  non combatant, but all of your family were wiped out, you would pick up a gun, right?  

 

Yes, all Israel has achieved is creating another generation or two of hate, but as I said in another post, it's interesting that the hate is spreading around the world, as it did in Germany all those years ago.

 

Just as non combatants become combatants, people are becoming antisemitic, and it's because of the horrors they are witnessing on the news out of Gaza. 

 

The Israeli's celebrate as well.  As I said, one man's freedom fighter is another man's terrorist.  

 

 

 

 

   Israelis were celebrating the death of a person that was responsible  for 1200 Israelis being murdered 

[KhunHeineken]

16 hours ago, James105 said:

 

Thats because we give them nice comfy individual prison cells.   If we doubled or quadrupled cell occupancy then there would be plenty of room.   

You need something like this for illegal immigrants. 

 

Go door to door across the UK.  Rack em and stack em. 

 

I'm sure it would stop the boats. 

 

 

[KhunHeineken]

8 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Israelis were celebrating the death of a person that was responsible  for 1200 Israelis being murdered 

The Palestinians were celebrating not being wiped out, in the same way the Jews did after World War 2. 

 

Your comment does make me wonder how many people American presidents have murdered over recent decades in various conflicts. 

 

"Light em up."

 

They fired upon a journalist carrying a tripod for the camera. 

 

I suppose 9/11 justifies it. 

 

 

[Nick Carter icp]

2 minutes ago, KhunHeineken said:

The Palestinians were celebrating not being wiped out, in the same way the Jews did after World War 2. 

 

Your comment does make me wonder how many people American presidents have murdered over recent decades in various conflicts. 

 

"Light em up."

 

They fired upon a journalist carrying a tripod for the camera. 

 

I suppose 9/11 justifies it. 

 

 

 

   Anti Israelis do have this strange habit of keep going on about WW2 and Nazis , its like they are still living half in 1939

[KhunHeineken]

18 hours ago, Mason45 said:

He probably roughed up the girl friend and she used her contacts to get him roughed up.

More like he handed over his life savings to her, and when the money ran out, he was past his use by date, so she had to get rid of him by informing on him to police / immigration, while she sells the bar.   

[josephbloggs]

6 minutes ago, KhunHeineken said:

The Palestinians were celebrating not being wiped out, in the same way the Jews did after World War 2. 

 

Your comment does make me wonder how many people American presidents have murdered over recent decades in various conflicts. 

 

"Light em up."

 

They fired upon a journalist carrying a tripod for the camera. 

 

I suppose 9/11 justifies it. 

 

 

Scum. Absolutely disgusting.

[KhunHeineken]

13 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

Scum. Absolutely disgusting.

Yes.  The pilot and gunner are brave men defending their country. 

[KhunHeineken]

20 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Anti Israelis do have this strange habit of keep going on about WW2 and Nazis , its like they are still living half in 1939

I'm not an antisemite, or anti Israeli.  Far from it.  I just disagree with the way they have conducted the war, and the ICC agrees. 

 

Still no comment from you about illegal Israeli occupation and settlements in the West Bank.  Why is that? 

 

 

[KhunHeineken]

1 hour ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Nope , completely different protests .

They were anti war protests in the USA opposing the Vietnam war , the protests in Israel just oppose Netanyahu , they are not opposed to the war in Gaza .

   The Anti Netanyahu protests have been occurring before the war began .

   The protests in Israel are not about stopping the war , Isrealis know that the war needs to happen 

As I said, Israeli's know it's the war keeping Netanyahu out of gaol.  To be anti Netanyahu means being anti war.  Not only is he a criminal, but also a war criminal.  

 

Do you think Israel will hand him over for trail, in the same way the Serbs did Milosevic, in the future?