Thaksin blames Prawit for political turmoil amid coup fallout

[Purdey]

Maybe unpopular but I believe there is no good reason for a coup. This would imply that any acts by a junta are automatically illegal; all charges made by a junta are illegal; anyone found guilty of anything by a junta are innocent until democracy returns. 

People may say a junta may pass good laws or jail real criminals but those acts should be automatically illegal in themselves. 

In short, an illegal government cannot do anything legally by nature of their method of taking power 

[MikeandDow]

8 minutes ago, Purdey said:

Maybe unpopular but I believe there is no good reason for a coup. This would imply that any acts by a junta are automatically illegal; all charges made by a junta are illegal; anyone found guilty of anything by a junta are innocent until democracy returns. 

People may say a junta may pass good laws or jail real criminals but those acts should be automatically illegal in themselves. 

In short, an illegal government cannot do anything legally by nature of their method of taking power 

This is based on What!!!!

[billd766]

9 minutes ago, Purdey said:

Maybe unpopular but I believe there is no good reason for a coup. This would imply that any acts by a junta are automatically illegal; all charges made by a junta are illegal; anyone found guilty of anything by a junta are innocent until democracy returns. 

People may say a junta may pass good laws or jail real criminals but those acts should be automatically illegal in themselves. 

In short, an illegal government cannot do anything legally by nature of their method of taking power 

That is something that I have been saying for years.

[MikeandDow]

5 minutes ago, billd766 said:

That is something that I have been saying for years.

same as you think the MFP did not form a goverment

[Purdey]

12 minutes ago, MikeandDow said:

This is based on What!!!!

Why does it have to be based on something else? 

Do you fully support and justify coups?

[Purdey]

19 minutes ago, billd766 said:

That is something that I have been saying for years.

Some don't get it though. Sigh.

[MikeandDow]

9 minutes ago, Purdey said:

Why does it have to be based on something else? 

Do you fully support and justify coups?

well that is only YOUR opinion,

You can Justify a coup in the name of Democracy which is the case in Bolivia. so in some cases "yes" i would support a coup

[zepplin]

6 hours ago, ikke1959 said:

I believe Thaksin is a bigger threat for the country than Prawit.. 2 coups already took place while Thaksin clan was in charge and now when I read aseannews, there are more topics of Thaksin than of the PM who should be in charge, but it seems that daddy is taking over the party and the Government and I am wondering how far and how long it will be accepted

The Thai people would definitely disagree with you! Thailand was doing very well when Taksin was in power, he changed the lives of many people for the better, something the Army has never ever done! Taksin has his faults like most politicians, but is smarter and knows how to run a country, the army had NFI and resisted any idea of democracy!

Anyway the people’s party will win the next election! Need someone young like Pita to lead with honesty, it’s about time!

[dantho]

5 hours ago, billd766 said:

No military coup general is ever better than a freely elected PM voted for by the people of the country.

 

He only becomes a dictator.

 

 

I agree with you regarding a military  coup not being better than a free elected PM but surely what Thailand now has is an unelected government and PM where her father seems to be running the country behind her back. This government was not what the Thai people voted for, they actually voted for Pita and the MFP party. Pita should be PM right now but the senate which is heavily biased towards the military overruled his accession to the role of PM.

[MikeandDow]

2 minutes ago, zepplin said:

The Thai people would definitely disagree with you! Thailand was doing very well when Taksin was in power, he changed the lives of many people for the better, something the Army has never ever done! Taksin has his faults like most politicians, but is smarter and knows how to run a country, the army had NFI and resisted any idea of democracy!

Anyway the people’s party will win the next election! Need someone young like Pita to lead with honesty, it’s about time!

Because,  Thaskins goverment put in a few good policys, it does not say he was good for the country, its proven he was only looking after himself and his clan,  the guy is resonsible for killings , corruption, found guily of that charge, The Thaksin government faced allegations of corruption, authoritarianism, treason, conflicts of interest, acting non-diplomatically, and muzzling of the press. Thaksin was accused of tax evasion, lèse majesté ,he is not liked by the majority of the thai poeople, Yes, the PP might win the next election, but what will happen ??  the Thai people are lethargic, democracy is fought for not given. and untill the Thai people get off there arse, nothing will change!

[MikeandDow]

12 minutes ago, dantho said:

I agree with you regarding a military  coup not being better than a free elected PM but surely what Thailand now has is an unelected government and PM where her father seems to be running the country behind her back. This government was not what the Thai people voted for, they actually voted for Pita and the MFP party. Pita should be PM right now but the senate which is heavily biased towards the military overruled his accession to the role of PM.

Spot on !!

A coup is a tool! some can be good, overthrow dictators, Boliva is a good example, some can be bad !!  you can not give a blanket statment saying all coup are bad !! The Thai people need to control corruption,then the Hiso.and the military once this is done you may have a democracy

[TheFishman1]

For a guy I just spent six months in a hospital because of health reasons he sure is pretty active now TIT

[ronnie50]

This needs a new topic. But the history of this website's political leanings - I mean it's long time posters which I've seen  (and I guess before it) might mean it won't get bumped up.  Tonight the coup leaders from BOTH past coups were on the Thai Royal news tonight. Yes, they were given prominent exposure - but no one from the present government of the people. That's worrying. Why? At least to me.

[greeneking]

38 minutes ago, ronnie50 said:

This needs a new topic. But the history of this website's political leanings - I mean it's long time posters which I've seen  (and I guess before it) might mean it won't get bumped up.  Tonight the coup leaders from BOTH past coups were on the Thai Royal news tonight. Yes, they were given prominent exposure - but no one from the present government of the people. That's worrying. Why? At least to me.

Yes, between the lines is where much of the news lies.

Is it true that all 4 sons of the King are in Thailand now? Interesting if true, but whether any meaning can be made of it is not easy.

[kingstonkid]

9 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

I don't often agree with Thaksin, but Prawit is one of the most toxic figures in the Thai political landscape in the last several decades, and the coup set Thailand back at least 20 years.

 

He should be imprisoned or exiled, he is a dark toxic mass. 

Don't forget that LingYuck had lost the will of the people, and there had been protests, so there was no government.  

 

Also one of teh things she ws going to do was bring Tony home and make amove tht all was forgiven.  

 

The elites and military were not going to go for that so away we went LOL.

 

I think TYhaksin is overestimating how far he can go before all hell breaks loose.  

 

I am not sure that there needs to be large-scale protests, but I definitely see them inching towards either the courts disbanding the PT or the parties breaking the coalition and taking the country back on the voting trail.

 

One thing that is going to happen is Thaksin is either going back to Dubai or jail if he does not shut up

[billd766]

1 hour ago, kingstonkid said:

Don't forget that LingYuck had lost the will of the people, and there had been protests, so there was no government.  

 

Also one of teh things she ws going to do was bring Tony home and make amove tht all was forgiven.  

 

The elites and military were not going to go for that so away we went LOL.

 

I think TYhaksin is overestimating how far he can go before all hell breaks loose.  

 

I am not sure that there needs to be large-scale protests, but I definitely see them inching towards either the courts disbanding the PT or the parties breaking the coalition and taking the country back on the voting trail.

 

One thing that is going to happen is Thaksin is either going back to Dubai or jail if he does not shut up

There actually WAS a caretaker government as the government of Yingluck had called a general election and was in the phase of doing it. 

 

However the protests were by the yellow shirts, along with Suthep and the monk.

 

But before the election could be held, Prayuth pulled his illegal military coup (the coup that a few days previously he denied would happen).

 

Yet according to Suthep, he had known about the coup for a while.

[MikeandDow]

11 hours ago, greeneking said:

Yes, between the lines is where much of the news lies.

Is it true that all 4 sons of the King are in Thailand now? Interesting if true, but whether any meaning can be made of it is not easy.

The king has two daughters and five sons

[spidermike007]

12 hours ago, kingstonkid said:

Don't forget that LingYuck had lost the will of the people, and there had been protests, so there was no government.  

 

Also one of teh things she ws going to do was bring Tony home and make amove tht all was forgiven.  

 

The elites and military were not going to go for that so away we went LOL.

 

I think TYhaksin is overestimating how far he can go before all hell breaks loose.  

 

I am not sure that there needs to be large-scale protests, but I definitely see them inching towards either the courts disbanding the PT or the parties breaking the coalition and taking the country back on the voting trail.

 

One thing that is going to happen is Thaksin is either going back to Dubai or jail if he does not shut up

I hope and pray you are correct. 

[MikeandDow]

13 hours ago, kingstonkid said:

Don't forget that LingYuck had lost the will of the people, and there had been protests, so there was no government.  

 

Also one of teh things she ws going to do was bring Tony home and make amove tht all was forgiven.  

 

The elites and military were not going to go for that so away we went LOL.

 

I think TYhaksin is overestimating how far he can go before all hell breaks loose.  

 

I am not sure that there needs to be large-scale protests, but I definitely see them inching towards either the courts disbanding the PT or the parties breaking the coalition and taking the country back on the voting trail.

 

One thing that is going to happen is Thaksin is either going back to Dubai or jail if he does not shut up

Wishful thinking!!

[Patong2021]

22 hours ago, Tropicalevo said:

 

If that is what 'the people' want. Yes.

But the rich elite will never let it happen, even if the voters want him.

Same as PITA.

 Don't compare the two.

[MikeandDow]

 

 

3 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

 Don't compare the two.

Waiting for the next election, wonder what excuse they (EC ) will come up for, Not giving the people what they want !!

[kingstonkid]

On 1/22/2025 at 2:36 PM, MikeandDow said:

 

 

Waiting for the next election, wonder what excuse they (EC ) will come up for, Not giving the people what they want !!

The smart thing for PP to do is run on the we are not like the others make no real promises other than we are going to try to make your life better.  Nominate a person that is so clean he or she squeaks.

 

There is no senate to screw up the vote 

[candide]

On 1/21/2025 at 3:44 PM, Purdey said:

Maybe unpopular but I believe there is no good reason for a coup. This would imply that any acts by a junta are automatically illegal; all charges made by a junta are illegal; anyone found guilty of anything by a junta are innocent until democracy returns. 

People may say a junta may pass good laws or jail real criminals but those acts should be automatically illegal in themselves. 

In short, an illegal government cannot do anything legally by nature of their method of taking power 

In particular as the army forces stationed in Bangkok are now under direct royal command and Prawit's regiment has been send back to the East.

Prawit (and the others) can do nothing.

 

About Thaksin's statement, I doubt he made it without checking first the absence of stratospheric headwind.