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A devastating knife attack in Bavaria has left two people dead, including a two-year-old boy, and three others injured. The tragic incident unfolded in Aschaffenburg, a city of 72,000, just before noon on Wednesday. The suspect, identified as a 28-year-old Afghan national, has been apprehended.  

 

Authorities revealed that the suspect, a former asylum-seeker ordered to leave Germany, launched the attack in a park. Among his victims was a two-year-old Moroccan boy, who was part of a group of kindergarten children. Bavaria's top security official, Joachim Herrmann, disclosed that the boy was fatally stabbed with a kitchen knife. A 41-year-old German man, who appeared to intervene in an effort to protect the children, also lost his life.

 

In addition to the fatalities, two adults and a two-year-old Syrian girl sustained injuries but are not in critical condition. Passersby acted swiftly, pursuing the attacker and aiding police in his arrest just 12 minutes after the assault.  

 

Joachim Herrmann detailed the suspect’s background, noting his prior involvement in violent incidents. "This individual had come to authorities' attention at least three times because of acts of violence," Herrmann said. Each time, the suspect underwent psychiatric treatment before being released.  

 

The suspect reportedly arrived in Germany in November 2022 and applied for asylum in early 2023. By December 4, he informed authorities of his intention to voluntarily leave the country and seek documentation from the Afghan consulate. However, his asylum application was formally denied, and he was instructed to leave Germany shortly thereafter.  

 

Investigators are now working to uncover the motive behind the attack, with early findings pointing to the suspect’s psychiatric condition. Herrmann stated, "A search of his room at a refugee home revealed no evidence of radical Islamic views, but it did turn up medication consistent with psychiatric treatment."  

 

Chancellor Olaf Scholz responded to the tragedy with a strongly worded condemnation. “This is an incomprehensible act of terror,” Scholz declared. He expressed frustration over repeated violent incidents involving individuals seeking asylum in Germany. “I am tired of such acts of violence happening here every few weeks — by perpetrators who came to us to find protection here. Mistaken tolerance is inappropriate here. Authorities must clear up at high pressure why the attacker was still in Germany at all.”  

 

Scholz stressed that the attack must lead to immediate action, stating, “It is not enough to talk.” His comments come amid heightened political sensitivity, as Germany approaches a national election in which irregular migration and asylum policies are major issues.  

 

The incident also recalls previous attacks that spurred debates on Germany’s deportation policies. Earlier this year, an Afghan immigrant killed a police officer in Mannheim, while a suspected Islamic extremist from Syria was accused of killing three people in Solingen. These events have led to renewed vows by Scholz to ramp up deportations of rejected asylum-seekers, particularly those involved in criminal activity.  

 

Germany recently resumed deporting Afghan nationals to their homeland, the first such action since the Taliban regained power in 2021. This latest tragedy further amplifies calls for stricter measures to address asylum policies and ensure public safety.  

 

The Bavarian community remains in mourning as authorities work to understand how such a horrifying act could occur and take steps to prevent future tragedies.

 

Based on a report by ABC News 2025-01-23

 

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6 minutes ago, koolkarl said:

Let me guess he is a Muslim and the west never ever says this in their headline news.  Why they keep protecting them is

beyond me.

You mean, "THEY" (= who is that??) protect Germans??😵‍💫

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9 minutes ago, koolkarl said:

Let me guess he is a Muslim and the west never ever says this in their headline news.  Why they keep protecting them is

beyond me.

 

It’s a valid point that, in these racially and religiously charged times, the omission of certain details from discussions or reports creates a void. This void often becomes a breeding ground for suspicion, bias, and rhetoric, particularly from those quick to level accusations against Islam.

 

It is also thought provoking that such accusations, more often than not, seem to hold weight.

 

When attacks are committed by white, Western men - such as German nationals, religion is rarely brought into the conversation. Instead, the discourse tends to focus on alternative explanations, such as substance abuse or mental health issues. However, the complete omission of race or nationality often stirs speculation and mistrust, inadvertently fuelling divisive narratives - at least in this story the void was partially filled with the facts 'National Asylum seeker'.

 

People frequently ask... “Why is it always Muslims who commit such acts?”  The truthful answer is that it isn’t. Yet..... the disproportionate media amplification of such events, combined with the failure of governments to effectively manage immigration, perpetuates a skewed perception. Incidents involving male-only immigrant populations do appear disproportionately high, which exacerbates existing tensions.

 

Another point worth considering is the distinction between immigrants who integrate successfully into their host countries and those who do not. In my experience, individuals in countries such as Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, and the Kurdistan regions, despite the hardships in their homelands, are often polite, overwhelmingly welcoming, and respectful....

...... Yet, something seems to change when they settle in Western nations like the UK or much of Europe. Many form insular groups and, in some cases, become prone to violence and religious extremism. This stark transformation raises questions about the underlying causes, such as social ostracism, lack of integration, or systemic issues within host nations.

As for Pakistan, I’ve observed a different dynamic. Beyond superficial manners, I often sense an underlying discomfort or even dislike towards non-Muslims. Unlike the genuine respect and consideration I’ve experienced with other nationalities, my interactions with individuals from Pakistan have felt strained and disconnected, revealing a subtle yet pervasive tension.

 

 

So was this a religious attack?...   The media have been very quick to dispel any 'religious reason' and concentrate on the possibility of mental illness - It is the speed with which authorities go to any lengths to avoid the possibility or mention of 'religious reasons' that opens up void of distrust and though it speculation... 

 

... We have a Afghani Asylum Seeker who stabbed children...   Mental Health  ??? - of course, anyone who commits such an act has mental health issues !!!... But that could also be driven by other reasons, specifically religious reasons - why this is being so quickly ignored is beyond me... 

 

... If someone doesn't scream “Allahu-Akbar”  before pressing a red detonation button it seems any other possible reason will be investigated before that of an attack motivated by religion....

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, newbee2022 said:

"A search of his room at a refugee home revealed no evidence of radical Islamic views, but it did turn up medication consistent with psychiatric treatment."  

Could happen everywhere. Very sad🥴

 

The fact that they felt the need to announce this conclusion so swiftly, while simultaneously locating a "medication consistent with psychiatric treatment," raises questions.

 

All that is needed is to find one or two 'Valium' pills to provide wings and allow a politically convenient narrative to take flight. This allows the media rhetoric to be carefully shaped, steering attention away from other, perhaps less comfortable, possibilities; i.e. religion - fundamentalism - Islam.

 

There is also the point that evidence of a psychiatric condition does not automatically exclude the potential for religious motivation. The readiness with which any religious aspect is dismissed on the basis of such information fails to address the larger picture, in fact it seems so quickly and conveniently side stepped that instead of closing the void of speculation, this approach deepens it....

 

 

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3 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

The fact that they felt the need to announce this conclusion so swiftly, while simultaneously locating a "medication consistent with psychiatric treatment," raises questions.

 

All that is needed is to find one or two 'Valium' pills to provide wings and allow a politically convenient narrative to take flight. This allows the media rhetoric to be carefully shaped, steering attention away from other, perhaps less comfortable, possibilities; i.e. religion - fundamentalism - Islam.

 

There is also the point that evidence of a psychiatric condition does not automatically exclude the potential for religious motivation. The readiness with which any religious aspect is dismissed on the basis of such information fails to address the larger picture, in fact it seems so quickly and conveniently side stepped that instead of closing the void of speculation, this approach deepens it....

 

 

If the perpetrator had been from England, do you think it would be relevant to mention the medication?

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3 minutes ago, Neeranam said:
7 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

The fact that they felt the need to announce this conclusion so swiftly, while simultaneously locating a "medication consistent with psychiatric treatment," raises questions.

 

All that is needed is to find one or two 'Valium' pills to provide wings and allow a politically convenient narrative to take flight. This allows the media rhetoric to be carefully shaped, steering attention away from other, perhaps less comfortable, possibilities; i.e. religion - fundamentalism - Islam.

 

There is also the point that evidence of a psychiatric condition does not automatically exclude the potential for religious motivation. The readiness with which any religious aspect is dismissed on the basis of such information fails to address the larger picture, in fact it seems so quickly and conveniently side stepped that instead of closing the void of speculation, this approach deepens it....

 

 

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If the perpetrator had been from England, do you think it would be relevant to mention the medication?

 

Yes... I think its pertinent to mention any information to the story... 

 

Medication was mentioned, but it was not mentioned that this man had a Bible or a Quran, a prayer mat etc... 

Also... it never mentioned what 'medication consistent with psychiatric treatment' was present - it could have been Melatonin to help with sleeping etc... 

 

My point is - I get the impression that Western Media deliberately attempts to steer to the rhetoric away from certain possibilities and in doing to clumsily opens up the very void speculation it attempts to control. 

 

 

In this case the information provided leans to wards the suspicion that this attacker was mentally disturbed...  as feeds the layman with the idea this was the 'blame' for the attach....  When in reality, when someone is mentally disturbed, there is a trigger - the mental disturbance is just the symptom.

 

 

 

 

 

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5 minutes ago, soalbundy said:

Yes certainly.

 

Not all Muslims cause terror but where there is terror there is a Muslim, why take the chance.

What chance?

Remember why many of these Muslim people are asylum seekers in the first place. Especially what the UK did by carving up their countries into artificial borders with little regard for ethnic, tribal, or religious divisions.  

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4 minutes ago, lanng khao said:

Your like a scarecrow avin a five fingered shuffle, always clutching at straws....

You asked 

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When was the last time a English man run amok with a knife in a kindergarten 

I simply answered you, no need for inane replies.

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Just now, Neeranam said:

One needs to find the root cause, possibly what the US did in Afghanistan to allow their pipeline to be built. Possibly the US invading the country in 2001. Possible the US support of the Mujahideen.

 

Short memories some here have. 

That's certainly a reason for stabbing children in Germany or using a car to kill innocent shoppers......a better idea might be to attack those soldiers responsible...Oh wait, they did and won so why come over to those devils in the West, don't like the Islamic way of life perhaps?

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1 minute ago, soalbundy said:

That's certainly a reason for stabbing children in Germany or using a car to kill innocent shoppers......a better idea might be to attack those soldiers responsible...Oh wait, they did and won so why come over to those devils in the West, don't like the Islamic way of life perhaps?

It's not a reason at all, mental illness is. 

They left Afghanistan for obvious reason, caused by UK, US etc, which you are maybe not aware of or intentionally ignoring.

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Just now, Neeranam said:

What chance?

Remember why many of these Muslim people are asylum seekers in the first place. Especially what the UK did by carving up their countries into artificial borders with little regard for ethnic, tribal, or religious divisions.  

So ask other Muslim countries for help.......why don't they?

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