WHO Implements Hiring Freeze and Travel Restrictions Following U.S. Withdrawal Announcement

[candide]

9 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

  How ever will they cope ?

Imagine having to speak to people online rather than flying halfway around the world to meet them in person in aa all expenses paid for trip paid for by the USA .

Those are just the first decisions about immediate expenses. After that, the WHO will have to slash health programs helping developing countries. There's nothing funny about it.

[Nick Carter icp]

9 minutes ago, candide said:

Those are just the first decisions about immediate expenses. After that, the WHO will have to slash health programs helping developing countries. There's nothing funny about it.

 

   It doesn't say that in the article , it just says that people have to speak to each other online and that buildings will not be refurbished 

[candide]

32 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   It doesn't say that in the article , it just says that people have to speak to each other online and that buildings will not be refurbished 

My comment was not restricted to what is written in the article. Currently, the WHO needs to cut all immediate expenses. The WHO doesn t spend 1.3 trillion on air travel.

Due to the importance of the U.S. contribution, they will have no other solution that to cut expenses to their aid programs.

https://open.who.int/2022-23/contributors/contributor?name=United States of America

[thesetat]

1 hour ago, candide said:

China is not a large contributor.

BTW, if you add country contributions, Europe is by far the largest public contributor.

https://www.who.int/about/funding/contributors/usa

Old news... 

New news is as quoted from Google AI.. 

China has significantly increased its financial support to the World Health Organization (WHO), particularly during periods when other major powers like the United States have reduced their funding, positioning itself as a key player in global health governance and reiterating its commitment to the organization's authority on the international stage; this includes contributing additional funds to the WHO during the COVID-19 pandemic when the US withdrew support. 

 

Key points about China's increased support for the WHO:

• Financial contribution:

  China has become one of the largest contributors to the WHO budget, often stepping up its funding when other nations decrease theirs. 

   
• Global health leadership:

  China views its increased support for the WHO as a way to solidify its role as a global leader in health matters. 

   
• Strategic positioning:

  By backing the WHO, China aims to promote its image as a responsible global power and advocate for multilateralism in health issues. 

[thesetat]

2 hours ago, candide said:

B.S. They warned about possible human transmission as early as 11 January.

 

It's Trump who refused to face reality and whined about it: it's a Dem hoax, it's just a flu, it will be finished by Easter and similar B.S.... (and there was a  barrage of posts about it by MAGA posters on Thaivisa)! 

B S. They knew about Covid prior to that. But China decided to allow their people to take their holidays travelling so Covid would spread. 

[frank83628]

7 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

This is correct Trump's failure during the pandemic was absolutely Epic and is likely that he has the blood of hundreds of thousands of people on his hands through his inability to wrestle control of that situation.

 

Having said that i don't like any of these three letter organizations, and the WHO, the CDC, Big Pharma and the FDA behaved like absolute animals during the pandemic and we're responsible for the loss of millions of jobs and millions of businesses worldwide, that were likely unnecessary losses. 

 

The covid narrative was skewed to an astonishing extent. And people are absolutely ostracized for even questioning any aspect of the narrative, is that not the very definition of fascism? 

What <deleted>, trump did what was advised by Fauci, he didn't control what the governors of the each state did

Cuomo stuck COVID patients in old people homes.

[frank83628]

2 hours ago, candide said:

B.S. They warned about possible human transmission as early as 11 January.

 

It's Trump who refused to face reality and whined about it: it's a Dem hoax, it's just a flu, it will be finished by Easter and similar B.S.... (and there was a  barrage of posts about it by MAGA posters on Thaivisa)! 

BS, as soon as trump wanted to ban travel from Chi-na the dems went the opposite way, Pelosi was striaigjt to China town tell people to come, many dems and MSM said in the beginning  COVID was just a flu

[candide]

1 hour ago, thesetat said:

Old news... 

New news is as quoted from Google AI.. 

China has significantly increased its financial support to the World Health Organization (WHO), particularly during periods when other major powers like the United States have reduced their funding, positioning itself as a key player in global health governance and reiterating its commitment to the organization's authority on the international stage; this includes contributing additional funds to the WHO during the COVID-19 pandemic when the US withdrew support. 

 

Key points about China's increased support for the WHO:

• Financial contribution:

  China has become one of the largest contributors to the WHO budget, often stepping up its funding when other nations decrease theirs. 

   
• Global health leadership:

  China views its increased support for the WHO as a way to solidify its role as a global leader in health matters. 

   
• Strategic positioning:

  By backing the WHO, China aims to promote its image as a responsible global power and advocate for multilateralism in health issues. 

A baseless assertion without any source and without being able to even cite the amount of China's contribution!  😆

 

I'll do it for you. It's 203 million and it's only the 8th contribution.

https://open.who.int/2024-25/contributors/contributor?name=China

 

Of course, China may decide to increase its contribution but it seems they currently have more accute economic concerns.

[candide]

1 hour ago, thesetat said:

B S. They knew about Covid prior to that. But China decided to allow their people to take their holidays travelling so Covid would spread. 

More baseless B.s. unbacked by any source. 

 

They knew what China was telling them. The WHO has no inquisitive investigation power and relies on information provided by its member States.

 

On the other hand, when Trump made his B.S. statements in March the NHS and CDC had been informed for months, as they had staff at key management and scientific positions at the WHO. 😆

[candide]

1 hour ago, frank83628 said:

BS, as soon as trump wanted to ban travel from Chi-na the dems went the opposite way, Pelosi was striaigjt to China town tell people to come, many dems and MSM said in the beginning  COVID was just a flu

More baseles and incoherent B.S. again, 

The Dems did  not opposed the China travel ban, they opposed the second Muslim ban. Pelosi went to Chinatown to show support to support businessex owned by American citizen of Chinese origin (voters). It has nothing to do with the travel ban. It's completely incoherent! 😆

The first Covid cases in Ca were not in Chinatown, BTW.

 

All The Times Trump Compared Covid-19 To The Flu, Even After He Knew Covid-19 Was Far More Deadly

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommybeer/2020/09/10/all-the-times-trump-compared-covid-19-to-the-flu-even-after-he-knew-covid-19-was-far-more-deadly/

 

[Kinnock]

11 hours ago, Srikcir said:

WHO did warn about the looming crisis facing the world, in the initial months, even when the coronavirus was still largely contained within China.

https://www.devex.com/news/early-warnings-from-who-on-the-dangers-of-covid-19-97004

On the other hand was 45th POTUS Trump's failure before he tested positive for Covid:

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/us/one-day-it-s-like-a-miracle-it-will-disappear-trump-on-covid-19-1.4370294

• 'One day, it's like a miracle, it will disappear'
• "We have it totally under control. It's one person coming in from China, and we have it under control. It's going to be just fine."

That's some very selective reporting .... late 2019 the WHO was aware of a novel virus spreading rapidly within China, and into early 2020 the WHO was quoting Chinese official reports about no need to cut travel or close borders. 

 

Only after China had infected the whole world and were therefore safe from being singled out for travel bans, did global travel restrictions start.

 

[candide]

9 minutes ago, Kinnock said:

That's some very selective reporting .... late 2019 the WHO was aware of a novel virus spreading rapidly within China, and into early 2020 the WHO was quoting Chinese official reports about no need to cut travel or close borders. 

 

Only after China had infected the whole world and were therefore safe from being singled out for travel bans, did global travel restrictions start.

 

As usual no source. Here's a source with the timeline and the first social media posf

 

https://www.who.int/news/item/27-04-2020-who-timeline---covid-19

 

[Kinnock]

17 minutes ago, candide said:

As usual no source. Here's a source with the timeline and the first social media posf

 

https://www.who.int/news/item/27-04-2020-who-timeline---covid-19

 

That does not show any effective action by WHO after several weeks of reports of illnesses within China .... I don't know why you're trying, and failing, to defend this corrupt and useless organisation with your highly selective and inconclusive links .... do you work for the UN?

[candide]

5 minutes ago, Kinnock said:

That does not show any effective action by WHO after several weeks of reports of illnesses within China .... I don't know why you're trying, and failing, to defend this corrupt and useless organisation with your highly selective and inconclusive links .... do you work for the UN?

Again, no source to back up your assertion. Here's what is known.

Of course  if you know about additional information, please feel free to share your sources.

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic_in_mainland_China

The outbreak went unnoticed until 26 December 2019, when Zhang Jixian, director of the Department of Respiratory Medicine at Hubei Xinhua Hospital, noticed a cluster of patients with pneumonia of unknown origin, several of whom had connections to the Huanan Seafood Market in Wuhan.[50] She subsequently alerted the hospital, as well as municipal and provincial health authorities, which issued an alert on 30 December.[50][51] Results from patient samples obtained on 29–30 December indicated the presence of a novel coronavirus, related to SARS.[50]

 

The WHO was certainly not perfect, but it doesn't mean that the MAGA campaign aiming at distracting attention from Trump's inadequate and childish reaction 3  months later , is true.

[Kinnock]

31 minutes ago, candide said:

As usual no source. Here's a source with the timeline and the first social media posf

 

https://www.who.int/news/item/27-04-2020-who-timeline---covid-19

 

 

WHO advice from January 12th 2020 based entirely on false reassurances from the Chinese Government and issued weeks after the true extent of the risk had been highlighted by Chinese doctors.

 

"WHO does not recommend any specific health measures for travellers. In case of symptoms suggestive of respiratory illness either during or after travel, travellers are encouraged to seek medical attention and share travel history with their healthcare provider. Travel guidance has been updated.

WHO advises against the application of any travel or trade restrictions on China based on the information currently available on this event."

 

Within days we had a global pandemic with the first cases being in Thailand then more in other countries.  Flights of tourists out of China should have been stopped before Chinese New Year, but the WHO, using suspect advice from China, did nothing.  How many deaths and how much economic damage was caused by this failure of the WHO to give effective, timely and honest advice??

 

https://www.who.int/emergencies/disease-outbreak-news/item/2020-DON233

 

[Mike_Hunt]

11 hours ago, Galong said:

Yes, starting off by literally leaving his cousin-affectionate minion out in the cold at the inauguration. If you ain't a billionaire, you can't come inside.  Since then, almost everything he's done has been to enrich himself through tacky coin scams, or promote policies that help the rich. I see nothing that has or will bring down the price of eggs. You've been duped by the world's most famous con artists. The US deserves the suffering that is coming. The GOP for voting for this criminal and the Dems for putting such an unappealing do-nothing on the ticket. The US is falling apart just like they deserve. 

Cope.

[candide]

2 hours ago, Kinnock said:

 

WHO advice from January 12th 2020 based entirely on false reassurances from the Chinese Government and issued weeks after the true extent of the risk had been highlighted by Chinese doctors.

 

"WHO does not recommend any specific health measures for travellers. In case of symptoms suggestive of respiratory illness either during or after travel, travellers are encouraged to seek medical attention and share travel history with their healthcare provider. Travel guidance has been updated.

WHO advises against the application of any travel or trade restrictions on China based on the information currently available on this event."

 

Within days we had a global pandemic with the first cases being in Thailand then more in other countries.  Flights of tourists out of China should have been stopped before Chinese New Year, but the WHO, using suspect advice from China, did nothing.  How many deaths and how much economic damage was caused by this failure of the WHO to give effective, timely and honest advice??

 

https://www.who.int/emergencies/disease-outbreak-news/item/2020-DON233

 

So 12 days, not weeks...

 

Anyway, in retrospective it shows a lack of caution and anticipation. They should not have trusted China. However, in the absence of any other information, how could they have made a better assessment? Who could have anticipated the characteristics of this pandemic, considering that the last comparable pandemic was the Spanish flu in 1918.

They have been slow to declare a health emergency, but from what is reported there was initially was no agreement among the emergency committee (which is composed of representative from member States)

 

Would the pandemic have been prevented if the WHO had been faster to declare an health emergency? I doubt it.

 

Now, it seems it has adopted the opposite position and issue warnings at each occasion. Of course, the same people who criticised the WHO for being late, are now  claiming fear mongering each and new disease is reported. 🙂

(See thread about rece t outbreak in China)

[DonniePeverley]

Gravy train

 

Is there any independent way to see how much they were spending on flights and what class most of them travelled?

 

Why would eg they need to travel business class ?

[Kinnock]

27 minutes ago, candide said:

So 12 days, not weeks...

 

Anyway, in retrospective it shows a lack of caution and anticipation. They should not have trusted China. However, in the absence of any other information, how could they have made a better assessment? Who could have anticipated the characteristics of this pandemic, considering that the last comparable pandemic was the Spanish flu in 1918.

They have been slow to declare a health emergency, but from what is reported there was initially was no agreement among the emergency committee (which is composed of representative from member States)

 

Would the pandemic have been prevented if the WHO had been faster to declare an health emergency? I doubt it.

 

Now, it seems it has adopted the opposite position and issue warnings at each occasion. Of course, the same people who criticised the WHO for being late, are now  claiming fear mongering each and new disease is reported. 🙂

(See thread about rece t outbreak in China)

Unfortunately it was more than 12 days.  The first laboratory reported case was on 1st December 2019, and 'whistleblower' doctors were also making reports of unusual cases around the same time.

 

The WHO did not start to act until the 'official' report from China on December 31.

 

I work in public health, and we were discussing the strange Wuhan outbreak via online groups throughout December, so there's no way the WHO only became aware of the issue at the end of 2019.

 

Politics prevented prompt action and they delayed until it became a pandemic and then it was too late for containment.

 

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7153464/#:~:text=The illness onset of the,%2C China (Table 1).&text=Initially%2C an outbreak involving a,least 41 people was reported.

 

[Woke to Sounds of Horking]

6 hours ago, candide said:

The WHO was certainly not perfect, but [ . . . ]

If you actually believe anything coming out of communist China, well ... nothing more to be said.

 

Cheers buddy

[FritsSikkink]

21 hours ago, bokningar said:

All real democratic countries should leave all parts of UN.

It is run by corrupt people from country’s that is only trying to get more money from the west.

Democratic countries, war mongers more likely: Denmark in ‘crisis mode’ after ‘horrendous’ phone call from Trump demanding to buy Greenland

[DonniePeverley]

18 hours ago, Justanotherone said:

the gravy train closes and now they save money... saw some undercover youtube videos... all those ngo earn big buck for doing nothing, or even worse, get paid to do harm

 

Link ?

[Hawaiian]

14 hours ago, candide said:

Those are just the first decisions about immediate expenses. After that, the WHO will have to slash health programs helping developing countries. There's nothing funny about it.

Seems as if you are admitting that the U.S. has been responsible for much of the funding for health programs in developing countries. 

[nauseus]

 

13 hours ago, Kinnock said:

 

WHO advice from January 12th 2020 based entirely on false reassurances from the Chinese Government and issued weeks after the true extent of the risk had been highlighted by Chinese doctors.

 

"WHO does not recommend any specific health measures for travellers. In case of symptoms suggestive of respiratory illness either during or after travel, travellers are encouraged to seek medical attention and share travel history with their healthcare provider. Travel guidance has been updated.

WHO advises against the application of any travel or trade restrictions on China based on the information currently available on this event."

 

Within days we had a global pandemic with the first cases being in Thailand then more in other countries.  Flights of tourists out of China should have been stopped before Chinese New Year, but the WHO, using suspect advice from China, did nothing.  How many deaths and how much economic damage was caused by this failure of the WHO to give effective, timely and honest advice??

 

https://www.who.int/emergencies/disease-outbreak-news/item/2020-DON233

 

 

Exactly. I had to assist an old fella get back to the UK for medical help (not Covid) and managed to get a seat for him on 25th January, which was Chinese New Year in 2020. I used Flight Radar24 to make sure his flight was away OK, then focused on China. There were more flights tracking outbound from China than I can ever remember seeing - it was like a slow-motion fireworks show - totally irresponsible!

[Isaan sailor]

Strike three, you’re out!

[candide]

23 hours ago, candide said:

China is not a large contributor.

BTW, if you add country contributions, Europe is by far the largest public contributor.

https://www.who.int/about/funding/contributors/usa

 

8 hours ago, Hawaiian said:

Seems as if you are admitting that the U.S. has been responsible for much of the funding for health programs in developing countries. 

It seems I have posted the information about countries' contributions to the WHO before...