snoop1130 Posted January 27 Posted January 27 File photo for reference only The Public Health Ministry in Thailand has devoted 145.63 million baht (US$4.32 million) to provide hormone medication for 200,000 transgender citizens. This initiative by the National Health Security Office aligns with the government’s commitment to marriage equality, ensuring both the physical and mental well-being of sexually diverse communities. Deputy Government Spokesperson Anukool Pruksanusak emphasized the growing acceptance of diverse gender identities and the significant demand for hormone therapy to help transgender individuals align their physical appearance with their gender identity. With the 2025 budget approval, this funding aims to bridge health disparities by making necessary hormone therapy accessible, where previously, prohibitive costs and lack of medical oversight posed risks for many. Beyond hormone therapy, the National Health Security Office is committed to offering comprehensive medical and public health services to transgender citizens. These services include medical treatment, health promotion, disease prevention, and rehabilitation, ensuring equal healthcare access for all individuals. -- 2025-01-27 2 1
Popular Post OneMoreFarang Posted January 27 Popular Post Posted January 27 4 minutes ago, snoop1130 said: With the 2025 budget approval, this funding aims to bridge health disparities by making necessary hormone therapy accessible Why is that something Thai taxpayers, me included, should pay for? And why do they need hormones? If a biological male thinks he is a woman or he wants to be a woman, then what's the point of additional hormones? So that he feels even more like a woman or what? 1 11 2 1 1 1 1
Popular Post Jingthing Posted January 27 Popular Post Posted January 27 2 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said: Why is that something Thai taxpayers, me included, should pay for? And why do they need hormones? If a biological male thinks he is a woman or he wants to be a woman, then what's the point of additional hormones? So that he feels even more like a woman or what? I don't really believe that you don't know why transitioning people require hormone therapy. If you really don't know, I would suggest you're not in an informed position to debate these topics. That is so basic! If you're saying you don't want health care systems to pay, that's a position to take, but unless you're a Thai citizen you really don't have standing there either. 2 4 4 2
Popular Post Neeranam Posted January 27 Popular Post Posted January 27 The person you quoted should not come here and criticize the Government. As a Thai, I vote for this move to help transgenders using the Universal Health program if needed. 1 1 1 3
Popular Post Baht Simpson Posted January 27 Popular Post Posted January 27 14 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said: Why is that something Thai taxpayers, me included, should pay for? Regarding yourself it's because as a foreigner living in Thailand you have no vote therefore no say in the matter. It's taxation without representation. I live in Thailand and pay tax in the U.K. yet I at least retain voting rights. I could say, why should I contribute towards U.K. education, police, infrastructure, defense, social services, NHS etc. when I have no benefit from any of them? The simple answer is because that's the law. You (or I) don't get to pick and choose what you pay taxes for. If you think for prejudicial reasons that transgender people shouldn't get treatment that increases health outcomes then that's a shame. 2 1
Popular Post Baht Simpson Posted January 27 Popular Post Posted January 27 3 minutes ago, Neeranam said: The person you quoted should not come here and criticize the Government. As a Thai, I vote for this move to help transgenders using the Universal Health program if needed. Well said. 1 1 1
Popular Post Cardano Posted January 27 Popular Post Posted January 27 Why are irrelevant issues like this even posted on AN? I cannot fathom why the poster thinks this would be of interest to the general expat in Thailand, unless it just to solicit reactions. 2 4 3
Popular Post bkk6060 Posted January 27 Popular Post Posted January 27 What a terrible waste. They should spend the money on driver education. 3 4 2 2
Popular Post OneMoreFarang Posted January 27 Popular Post Posted January 27 2 hours ago, Baht Simpson said: Regarding yourself it's because as a foreigner living in Thailand you have no vote therefore no say in the matter. It's taxation without representation. I live in Thailand and pay tax in the U.K. yet I at least retain voting rights. I could say, why should I contribute towards U.K. education, police, infrastructure, defense, social services, NHS etc. when I have no benefit from any of them? The simple answer is because that's the law. You (or I) don't get to pick and choose what you pay taxes for. If you think for prejudicial reasons that transgender people shouldn't get treatment that increases health outcomes then that's a shame. Will those transgenders have health problems without extra hormones? Why? And this is a forum. I can complain about politics anywhere, it doesn't matter if I was ever there, pay taxes over there or not. Many Thais will pay a lot of taxes for this. Why should they have to do that? 1 1 1 2 1
OneMoreFarang Posted January 27 Posted January 27 2 hours ago, bkk6060 said: What a terrible waste. They should spend the money on driver education. In principle I agree with you. But driver education is useless without law enforcement. We see this every day. And I am not so sure if spending more money on law enforcement in Thailand would make it any better. 1
Popular Post Baht Simpson Posted January 27 Popular Post Posted January 27 6 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said: Will those transgenders have health problems without extra hormones? Why? And this is a forum. I can complain about politics anywhere, it doesn't matter if I was ever there, pay taxes over there or not. Many Thais will pay a lot of taxes for this. Why should they have to do that? If it's considered a health issue then yes, I guess. People more knowledgeable about this than you or I will make that decision, as with all health issues. Of course you can complain........as we've seen. But that wasn't my point. It's that you and I have no leverage in this matter. Thais won't pay "a lot of taxes". Don't be silly. Many don't pay any taxes at all and the amount those they do pay will pay for this small part of healthcare will be insignificant. One wonders why your so upset about this one issue. 1 1 1
Popular Post sidneybear Posted January 27 Popular Post Posted January 27 Hopefully this warped and dangerous trans ideology will fade away, now that a backlash is taking place in the US and elsewhere. 1 3 2 2
cjinchiangrai Posted January 27 Posted January 27 5 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said: Will those transgenders have health problems without extra hormones? Why? And this is a forum. I can complain about politics anywhere, it doesn't matter if I was ever there, pay taxes over there or not. Many Thais will pay a lot of taxes for this. Why should they have to do that? Because health care is for everyone.
hotchilli Posted January 27 Posted January 27 12 hours ago, snoop1130 said: This initiative by the National Health Security Office aligns with the government’s commitment to marriage equality, ensuring both the physical and mental well-being of sexually diverse communities. Bugger the trans people, give free medication to the thousands of nutters roaming the streets. 1
hotchilli Posted January 27 Posted January 27 11 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said: Why is that something Thai taxpayers, me included, should pay for? And why do they need hormones? If a biological male thinks he is a woman or he wants to be a woman, then what's the point of additional hormones? So that he feels even more like a woman or what? Grow some tits and look more like one... 1
Popular Post proton Posted January 27 Popular Post Posted January 27 I thought this trans fantasy nonsense was going out of fashion? 2 3 1 2
Popular Post OneMoreFarang Posted January 27 Popular Post Posted January 27 8 hours ago, Baht Simpson said: One wonders why your so upset about this one issue. Because, IMHO, it's a waste of money. 1 1 1
Popular Post OneMoreFarang Posted January 27 Popular Post Posted January 27 3 hours ago, cjinchiangrai said: Because health care is for everyone. Let's say a transgender has a broken leg. Of course that should be fixed, like for men and women. But hormones because they want to be different? 1 2
Popular Post OneMoreFarang Posted January 27 Popular Post Posted January 27 26 minutes ago, hotchilli said: Grow some tits and look more like one... If he wants tits then let him pay for that. Real women who want bigger tits also pay for that. 1 1 2
scottiejohn Posted January 27 Posted January 27 4 hours ago, cjinchiangrai said: Because health care is for everyone. I wonder if this will apply to those who have already transitioned or will it only be for those seeking help to undergo a transition? PS; Asking on behalf of a member of the wife's extended family.
cjinchiangrai Posted January 28 Posted January 28 47 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said: Let's say a transgender has a broken leg. Of course that should be fixed, like for men and women. But hormones because they want to be different? No, hormones because they have gender dysmorphia and it is far better than suicide. The additional benefit is bringing them into the health system and getting regular care so they do not face other issues.
Popular Post OneMoreFarang Posted January 28 Popular Post Posted January 28 5 minutes ago, cjinchiangrai said: No, hormones because they have gender dysmorphia and it is far better than suicide. The additional benefit is bringing them into the health system and getting regular care so they do not face other issues. If people (any gender) want to kill themselves then let them kill themselves. And that argument stinks. Because who knows how many would kill themselves if A or B or C wouldn't happen? And how many who transitioned, including hormones, regret it later? Just let nature do its job. They don't NEED hormones. 4 2 1
Puccini Posted January 28 Posted January 28 14 hours ago, snoop1130 said: The Public Health Ministry in Thailand has devoted 145.63 million baht (US$4.32 million) to provide hormone medication for 200,000 transgender citizens. This initiative by the National Health Security Office aligns with the government’s commitment to marriage equality,... What does hormone treatment have to do with marriage equality?
cjinchiangrai Posted January 28 Posted January 28 31 minutes ago, Puccini said: What does hormone treatment have to do with marriage equality? Nothing, they are probably reviewing all of the laws following the marriage act and fixing some inconsistencies. This is just medical care.
Grumpy one Posted January 28 Posted January 28 14 hours ago, Neeranam said: The person you quoted should not come here and criticize the Government. As a Thai, I vote for this move to help transgenders using the Universal Health program if needed. So, you signed up for the program already
Grumpy one Posted January 28 Posted January 28 3 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said: If he wants tits then let him pay for that. Real women who want bigger tits also pay for that. Big Tits 1
OneMoreFarang Posted January 28 Posted January 28 5 minutes ago, Rampant Rabbit said: I want to have one of my legs amputated cuz I beleive Im a pirate I think thai healthcare should also pay for this I am sure that is possible. But only if you have they/them pronounce.
Ebumbu Posted January 28 Posted January 28 8 hours ago, sidneybear said: Hopefully this warped and dangerous trans ideology will fade away, now that a backlash is taking place in the US and elsewhere. It's been around for millenia: Central to ancient Lakota Sioux traditions, the legend of Mato, the Two-Spirit bear-guardian, embodies the essence of spiritual harmony and wisdom. In the lush islands of ancient Hawaii, the mahu played a similar role. These people embodied both masculine and feminine qualities, which connected them to the divine forces of the natural world. In ancient Rome, the Galli served the goddess Cybele. These priests, who often renounced traditional male roles and embraced feminine attire, were believed to channel the goddess’s energy through their androgynous identity. The Hijra of ancient India have long held sacred roles, often connected to the goddess Bahuchara Mata. The Hijra’s ability to embody both masculine and feminine traits was seen as a reflection of the goddess’s transformative powers. "Gender roles were fluid in pre-colonial societies. Words to describe up to six different gender variants, beyond the binary of male and female, have been found in 155 Indigenous nations of North America."— Kelsey Klassen, “Two spirits, one struggle: The front lines of being First Nations and gay,” Vancouver Courier Maybe it will fade away soon. 2
Popular Post grain Posted January 28 Popular Post Posted January 28 Thailand, always a decade or two behind the west. The tide is turning in the west now, good decent people have had enough of this nonsense. In the USA now the offical government policy if there are 2 genders, male and female. Hopefully other countries like UK, Australia, European countries will follow suit. 2 1 2
digger70 Posted January 28 Posted January 28 Thailand Boosts Transgender Health with 145.63 Million Baht Hormone Initiative How stupid is that. Wasting Taxpayers money on the Wannabes that want some change to there body. It's bad enough that they want to be something that they are Not. 1
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