Teenage Brit Involved in Fatal Road Collision in Pattaya

[BritManToo]

9 minutes ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

The article reads, 'driven by a 19-year-old British-Thai man' 

Poor parenting, the old man is probably a lowlife foreigner, now the son is filling his shoes. 

That means he was Thai but his dad was (might have been) a Brit.

Probably never had British citizenship or a Brit passport, or ever been to the UK, maybe never even met his dad (after all, this is Pattaya).

And certainly not a farang.

 

 

[1happykamper]

7 hours ago, Georgealbert said:

to determine whether reckless driving charges will be filed.

Really? Yes... Depending on the amount of the bribe. 

[Snackbar]

This young man is as much of a victim 

 

TIT

[malibukid]

no photo of Mr. Lewis?

[saintdomingo]

15 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

OP says he was Thai.

celsius and newbee2022 are not interested in such technicalities, mere facts are not allowed to distract them from their mission.

[scubascuba3]

52 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

He wasn't a rider, either, as scubascuba3 seemed to think, he was one of those in a car!

you misunderstood again

[Oink]

43 minutes ago, NorthernRyland said:

Show your work and post real numbers per 100k of population.

 

Another factor is the hours driven by Americans. Maybe more accidents but they're spending more hours a day driving and covering more miles.

 

The real test would be how likely you are to die per 100k of population for driving 100 miles of distance, or in other words how many miles do 100k people have to drive before one of them dies in a crash.

Wikipedia data for 2019

 

USA 41,694 road deaths

12.7 / 100k inhabitants

 

Thailand 22,428 of which 73% were motorbike = 6,065 car and others

32.2 / 100k inhabitants of which 27% were not on motorbikes = 8.7 / 100k inhabitants

 

12.7 / 8.7 = 146% Therefore you are 46% more likely to be killed in a car accident in the US than Thailand

 

[riverhigh]

This is not a tragic accident. This is the result of reckless driving by a 19 year-old self-centred pri&%k. No regard for anyone but himself. Has to go to jail and banned from driving. No leniency should be given because of his age. 

[Screaming]

3 hours ago, Oink said:

Given that 73% of the road fatalities in Thailand are motorbike riders, statistically, you are 50% more likely to be killed in a car crash in the USA

It stands to reason that the majority of deaths are motorcycle related in Thailand. No helmets, wearing flip flops, shorts, tee shirts, weaving in and out of traffic, cutting in front of cars and obeying no traffic laws. Motorcycles are a death wish in Thailand.

[novacova]

7 hours ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

Typical foreigner behaving badly, loads of these idiots

…In Chiangmai as well 

[Reddavy]

1 hour ago, Ralf001 said:

 

they are reckless due to their belief if they come unstuck gofundme will bail them out.

Yeah and where was GoFundMe introduced to the world??? Dumb ass USA 🤷🏼

[Dave0206]

4 minutes ago, Screaming said:

It stands to reason that the majority of deaths are motorcycle related in Thailand. No helmets, wearing flip flops, shorts, tee shirts, weaving in and out of traffic, cutting in front of cars and obeying no traffic laws. Motorcycles are a death wish in Thailand.

You are correct of course motorcycles are going to get 2nd prize if coming in to contact with a 1 tonne suv or tree or lamp post.

Unless they go flying through the windscreen 

[GammaGlobulin]

6 hours ago, steven100 said:

very sad indeed, I hope the deceased family can find the strength to get through losing their daughter so early.   

As for the crazy driver,   to the monkey house for 10 years. 

 

I will not be satisfied with any less than 30 years.

 

Also, let's have an amputation as a bonus for him.

 

[alex8912]

2 hours ago, goldenbrwn1 said:

Some people just don’t read past the headline . If we get down to the genetic level for the cause of this crash , I’d wager it was his Thai genetics that were to blame, if he was at fault and driving  like an idiot 

After that remark I'll wager he has bad teeth!! 

[Ralf001]

11 minutes ago, Reddavy said:

Yeah and where was GoFundMe introduced to the world??? Dumb ass USA 🤷🏼

MAGA !

[madone]

8 hours ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

Typical foreigner behaving badly, loads of these idiots on Soi Buakhou.

 

the driver was as Thai as they are foreign. but I guess that doesn't support your bias, so you conveniently mangae to overlook that fact 

[novacova]

1 hour ago, Liverpool Lou said:

direct result of having no adequately-financed police force.

An aggressive traffic law enforcement would incur funds for a more adequately-financed police force. And increased well behaved drivers.

Imagine what a difference it would be if there were speed traps, cops citing people for sloping in other lanes, failing to use turn signals, jumping traffic signals, tailgating and a zero tolerance traffic enforcement with high cost penalties and vehicle impoundment opposed to a measly 500-1000฿ fine…stupid drivers and drunks population on the roads would decrease and lives would be saved.

[Liverpool Lou]

1 minute ago, novacova said:

1 hour ago, Liverpool Lou said:

direct result of having no adequately-financed police force.

An aggressive traffic law enforcement would incur funds for a more adequately-financed police force. And increased well behaved drivers.

Imagine what a difference it would be if there were speed traps, cops citing people for sloping in other lanes, failing to use turn signals, jumping traffic signals, tailgating and a zero tolerance traffic enforcement with high cost penalties and vehicle impoundment opposed to a measly 500-1000฿ fine…stupid drivers and drunks population on the roads would decrease and lives would be saved.

I agree but if the local police aren't provided with the budget and equipment needed (and that has to come first) it will never happen.

[Martin Brit]

7 hours ago, smedly said:

FFS, more carnage, very sad, 70% of news stories on here are about tragic accidents on the death roads, when are they going to take this seriously and do something about it, it cannot go on like this, it really is horrendous 

 

RIP RIP RIP RIP

In the UK you have to do a Basic Safety Train

 

5 hours ago, mikebell said:

'it cannot go on like this' - but it has for the20 years I've lived here.

'70% of news stories on here are about tragic accidents on the death roads,' - speed is the biggest killer; a direct result of having no police force. - 'RIP RIP RIP RIP' RTP.

In the UK you have to do a basic safety training before your even allowed to get on a bike with L Plates. They teach you to drive in the middle of the lane not at the side. That is because when you drive at the side of the lane, cars will continually try to squeeze past increasing the risk of what happened here. So a long way to go for Thailand to get safety on to the roads. Thais can ride bikes, but safely, no. 

[lordgrinz]

3 minutes ago, Martin Brit said:

They teach you to drive in the middle of the lane not at the side.

 

Be careful doing that, oil likes to drip out of cars right in the middle of the lanes.

[cardinalblue]

2 hours ago, Oink said:

Given that 73% of the road fatalities in Thailand are motorbike riders, statistically, you are 50% more likely to be killed in a car crash in the USA

How you figure? People die at 5 times the fatality rate in thailand than usa when you standardized the data 

 

dud you deduct motorcycle deaths in usa? Probably not 

[Ironmike]

What can you honestly say about this 19 year old speeding in daddy's car and killed some poor woman I hope he gets the death sentence or at least life in prison. 

[andyman57]

8 hours ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

Typical foreigner behaving badly, loads of these idiots on Soi Buakhou.

 

The only surprise is his age, I hope he enjoys Thailand prisons. 

 

 

He's half thai

[Dionigi]

When is a Brit not a Brit, when there is no blame.

[newbee2022]

1 hour ago, BritManToo said:

OP says he was Thai!

No,

Teenage Brit.

 

[newbee2022]

2 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

No Britons (Russians nor Chinese) were involved in this accident.

Teenage Brit

[MangoKorat]

8 hours ago, smedly said:

FFS, more carnage, very sad, 70% of news stories on here are about tragic accidents on the death roads, when are they going to take this seriously and do something about it, it cannot go on like this, it really is horrendous 

 

RIP RIP RIP RIP

Whereas I agree that the Thai police should be doing something about the carnage in general, I doubt they can do much about this type of incident. Well not just something - its well past time they took this seriously because it is deadly serious.

 

If laws were enforced and proper punishments handed out people would not behave so badly on Thailand's roads. So in my book, much of the blame lies squarely with the police.

 

A start would be a instituting a proper driving test, followed by checks to catch the thousands that drive/ride without a licence every day and just say they've left it at home then drive away after paying a 200 baht 'fine'.

[Taboo2]

Yabba dabba doooooo!

[simple1]

9 hours ago, rocketboy2 said:

R.I.P lady.

Sounds like dangerous driving.

if that's so, hope he get jail time for this.

P.O.S.

 

 

More likely his parents will pay compo, negotiated by police, to the family - no jail time.

[NorthernRyland]

2 hours ago, Oink said:

Wikipedia data for 2019

 

USA 41,694 road deaths

12.7 / 100k inhabitants

 

Thailand 22,428 of which 73% were motorbike = 6,065 car and others

32.2 / 100k inhabitants of which 27% were not on motorbikes = 8.7 / 100k inhabitants

 

12.7 / 8.7 = 146% Therefore you are 46% more likely to be killed in a car accident in the US than Thailand

 

 

Clearly something is wrong with this otherwise I'd recommend US abandon all traffic enforcement and speed limits then make drunk driving legal outside of specified checkpoints. That would reduce traffic deaths by 46% then?

 

The answer is probably due to the amount of distance driven or maybe the overall lower speed and defensive driving in Thailand. In US you can simply drive and expect people to follow the law but try that in Thailand and you will have an accident within minutes.