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Updates and events in the War in Ukraine 2025

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Looks according to a question I put through Chat we are all on the tab for around 2 -5k (sterling) for the war so far so you in aThailand aren't getting the free ride I thought you were. That said you will no dount see Ivan and his entourage on your travels which will get your BP rising and you are both living in a country where there is no bad money only money and Russians bring in around $4 billion annualy in tourism revenues. The rouble btw has stayed pretty much the same since 2020 against the Baht  with a bit of a spike and settled down - so much for a crash. 

 

Here's a comparison table showing the estimated cost of the Ukraine war for a British citizen living in the UK versus a Western retiree living in Thailand, broken down by category:

 

Category British Citizen (UK-based) Western Retiree (Thailand-based)
Direct Taxpayer Contribution £400–£600 (military & aid support) £0 (no direct support from Thailand)
Inflation / Cost of Living £1,000–£2,000 (higher energy, food, goods) £300–£1,000 (higher food, goods, local inflation)
Energy / Utility Bills £800–£1,500 (due to UK energy price shocks) £300–£900 (imported fuel, electricity hikes)
Currency/Exchange Impact N/A (earns and spends in GBP) £500–£1,500 (pension devaluation via forex)
Healthcare / Medicine NHS impact minimal; delays, strain £100–£300 (imported medicine cost hikes)
Travel Disruption / Airfare Moderate (higher Europe/Asia flights) £200–£600 (higher costs to/from Europe)
Indirect Global Shocks £100–£300 (market volatility, delays) £100–£300 (logistics, imports, services)
Total Estimated Cost (2022–25) ~£2,400–£4,700 ~£1,400–£4,300

Summary:

  • UK residents bear more direct financial cost due to taxes funding aid and military support.

  • Retirees in Thailand are more exposed to indirect economic effects, like inflation and exchange rate shocks.

  • Both groups are feeling pressure, but in different ways: the UK through state burden, Thailand through personal financial vulnerability.

 

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7 minutes ago, t0mt0m said:

Finally I found some words of reason in this thread. As a Pole I see a lot of people here doesn't even have any historical/geopolitical background knowledge and their opinion are shaped by brainwashing, warmongering propaganda.

Welcome to the forum and well done for mastering that recent visitors block on your first post - I never got the hang of that or saw the point ! You will no dount be aware of the massacres that the Banderites did to your countrymen in WW2 make Hamas look like Teletubbies. 

 

 According to a document by the Polish underground, the crimes were atrocious:[155]

    In all villages, settlements and colonies, without exception, the Ukrainians carried out the operation of murdering Poles with monstrous cruelty. Women – even pregnant ones – were nailed to the ground with bayonets, children were ripped apart by their legs, others were impaled on pitchforks and thrown over fences, members of intelligentsia were tied with barbed wire and thrown into wells, arms, legs and heads were chopped off with axes, tongues were cut out, ears and noses were cut off, eyes were gouged, genitals were butchered, bellies ripped open and entrails pulled out, heads were smashed with hammers, living children were thrown inside burning houses. The barbaric frenzy reached a point that people were sawed apart alive, women had their breasts severed; others were impaled or beaten to death with sticks. Many people were killed – after a death sentence – by having their hands and feet chopped off, and only then their heads.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacres_of_Poles_in_Volhynia_and_Eastern_Galicia

 

3 hours ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

Welcome to the forum and well done for mastering that recent visitors block on your first post - I never got the hang of that or saw the point ! You will no dount be aware of the massacres that the Banderites did to your countrymen in WW2 make Hamas look like Teletubbies. 

 

 According to a document by the Polish underground, the crimes were atrocious:[155]

    In all villages, settlements and colonies, without exception, the Ukrainians carried out the operation of murdering Poles with monstrous cruelty. Women – even pregnant ones – were nailed to the ground with bayonets, children were ripped apart by their legs, others were impaled on pitchforks and thrown over fences, members of intelligentsia were tied with barbed wire and thrown into wells, arms, legs and heads were chopped off with axes, tongues were cut out, ears and noses were cut off, eyes were gouged, genitals were butchered, bellies ripped open and entrails pulled out, heads were smashed with hammers, living children were thrown inside burning houses. The barbaric frenzy reached a point that people were sawed apart alive, women had their breasts severed; others were impaled or beaten to death with sticks. Many people were killed – after a death sentence – by having their hands and feet chopped off, and only then their heads.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacres_of_Poles_in_Volhynia_and_Eastern_Galicia

 

Now you're framing this current war in WW2 terms just like Putin. Disgusting. Why am I not surprised?

Putin's clear goal is to erase Ukraine. 

Surrendering to hilm doesn’t mean that the killing and suffering stops.

3 hours ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

Welcome to the forum and well done for mastering that recent visitors block on your first post - I never got the hang of that or saw the point ! You will no dount be aware of the massacres that the Banderites did to your countrymen in WW2 make Hamas look like Teletubbies. 

 

 According to a document by the Polish underground, the crimes were atrocious:[155]

    In all villages, settlements and colonies, without exception, the Ukrainians carried out the operation of murdering Poles with monstrous cruelty. Women – even pregnant ones – were nailed to the ground with bayonets, children were ripped apart by their legs, others were impaled on pitchforks and thrown over fences, members of intelligentsia were tied with barbed wire and thrown into wells, arms, legs and heads were chopped off with axes, tongues were cut out, ears and noses were cut off, eyes were gouged, genitals were butchered, bellies ripped open and entrails pulled out, heads were smashed with hammers, living children were thrown inside burning houses. The barbaric frenzy reached a point that people were sawed apart alive, women had their breasts severed; others were impaled or beaten to death with sticks. Many people were killed – after a death sentence – by having their hands and feet chopped off, and only then their heads.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacres_of_Poles_in_Volhynia_and_Eastern_Galicia

 

Thank you for welcoming me here. I'm just occasional bystander but I found this topic really disturbing and full of cliche rusophobic BS. And I must admit I admire your persistance and patience while trying to discuss with narrow minded and brainwashed members of this thread. Seems like some ppl still got the problem with sticking to the logic and facts.

Of course I'm aware of that 1943/1944 genocide. My grandfather's father was a polish army officer sent to this area at that time so I had the firsthand account. That quote you paste is 100% true. The methods used by OUN and UPA to kill people (elders, pregnant woman, children, infants) were totally barbaric, like taken from the sickest gore/horror movies. The thing is in Ukraine (especially estern part) there's still lot of ppl and organised nazi movements which cherish and worships the human beasts like Bandera , Shukhevytch, Melnyk and other human garbage. It's such a shame that ukrainian schools never teach their kids about these events like nothing ever happened. Blank card in history for them. 

Ukraine had a chance to be a normal country but ultimately screwed everything in 2014. This country now is no different from what I've seen in 90's when I was there trying to do business with one of ukrainian company. Still totally corrupted to the core. Led by lunatics, figureheads, criminals, villains and ordinary idiots. The only ppl I feel sorry for is the average, poor ukrainian "Mykola" - conscripted to the army by force, sitting there in the ditch, with rats and dead bodies around. Seriously - in ukrainian cities special military forces are literally kidnapping men and sending them close to enemy lines. Underprepared. Only because they didn't have enough money or connections to flee the country like others.

How it is in my country after we took MILIONS of Ukrainians, how many of them behave, what kind of problems we face having them here, how ungrateful and demanding they are despite thriving on welfares paid by statistical polish taxpayer - I could write a book about his. 

53 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Now you're framing this current war in WW2 terms just like Putin. Disgusting. Why am I not surprised?

Putin's clear goal is to erase Ukraine. 

Surrendering to hilm doesn’t mean that the killing and suffering stops.

Sorry but apparently you have no clue what you're talking about. 

"Putin's clear goal is to erase Ukraine" . LOL. Gimme more, maybe something like "We have to help Ukraine because they're fighting for all of us".

3 minutes ago, t0mt0m said:

Sorry but apparently you have no clue what you're talking about. 

"Putin's clear goal is to erase Ukraine" . LOL. Gimme more, maybe something like "We have to help Ukraine because they're fighting for all of us".

People claim they are all kinds of things online in order to spread Kremlin propaganda.

Just now, Jingthing said:

People claim they are all kinds of things online on order to spread Kremlin propaganda.

Oh right, I forgot about that mythical "Kremlin propaganda" card, some people like to play it when lacking even basic knowledge about what's really going on in this conflict.  :biggrin:

3 minutes ago, t0mt0m said:

Oh right, I forgot about that mythical "Kremlin propaganda" card, some people like to play it when lacking even basic knowledge about what's really going on in this conflict.  :biggrin:

Mythical is it?

You just lost all credibility if you had any in the first place. 

 

 

1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

Mythical is it?

You just lost any credibility if you had any in the first place. 

Whatever. Stay brainwashed or open your eyes - your choice.

BTW. I've seen a thread where bunch of people trying to persuade others to join ukrainian army "to fight our common enemy". Disgusting warmongering, this should be banned.

7 minutes ago, t0mt0m said:

Whatever. Stay brainwashed or open your eyes - your choice.

Stay brainwashed. Your choice  

 

4 minutes ago, t0mt0m said:

BTW. I've seen a thread where bunch of people trying to persuade others to join ukrainian army "to fight our common enemy". Disgusting warmongering, this should be banned.

Putin invaded Ukraine.

Who's warmongering?

5 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Putin invaded Ukraine.

Who's warmongering?

 

EU politcs, USA and Wall Street, european media on political payroll, even ordinary people who know nothing about background of this conflict.

 

Happy to help.

8 minutes ago, t0mt0m said:

 

EU politcs, USA and Wall Street, european media on political payroll, even ordinary people who know nothing about background of this conflict.

 

Happy to help.

So Putin is an innocent pussycat.

14 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

So Putin is an innocent pussycat.

Nope.

2 hours ago, t0mt0m said:

Thank you for welcoming me here. I'm just occasional bystander but I found this topic really disturbing and full of cliche rusophobic BS. And I must admit I admire your persistance and patience while trying to discuss with narrow minded and brainwashed members of this thread. Seems like some ppl still got the problem with sticking to the logic and facts.

Of course I'm aware of that 1943/1944 genocide. My grandfather's father was a polish army officer sent to this area at that time so I had the firsthand account. That quote you paste is 100% true. The methods used by OUN and UPA to kill people (elders, pregnant woman, children, infants) were totally barbaric, like taken from the sickest gore/horror movies. The thing is in Ukraine (especially estern part) there's still lot of ppl and organised nazi movements which cherish and worships the human beasts like Bandera , Shukhevytch, Melnyk and other human garbage. It's such a shame that ukrainian schools never teach their kids about these events like nothing ever happened. Blank card in history for them. 

Ukraine had a chance to be a normal country but ultimately screwed everything in 2014. This country now is no different from what I've seen in 90's when I was there trying to do business with one of ukrainian company. Still totally corrupted to the core. Led by lunatics, figureheads, criminals, villains and ordinary idiots. The only ppl I feel sorry for is the average, poor ukrainian "Mykola" - conscripted to the army by force, sitting there in the ditch, with rats and dead bodies around. Seriously - in ukrainian cities special military forces are literally kidnapping men and sending them close to enemy lines. Underprepared. Only because they didn't have enough money or connections to flee the country like others.

How it is in my country after we took MILIONS of Ukrainians, how many of them behave, what kind of problems we face having them here, how ungrateful and demanding they are despite thriving on welfares paid by statistical polish taxpayer - I could write a book about his. 

The massacres committed by Bandera’s forces during World War II are truly utterly shocking. What is even more disturbing, however, is how, in a significant segment of the EuroMaidan movement, Bandera is lionized as a Ukrainian patriot. Statues of him have been erected, and streets across Ukraine have been named in his honor, along with those of his associates. Before the war, Western media often highlighted the ideology and actions of Ukrainian far-right nationalists. Since the war, however, this has largely been whitewashed in order to maintain a simplistic narrative: Russia bad, Ukraine good a binary, moralistic framework that ignores the complexities of history and current events. Poland has asked for an apology and it's bodies back as far as I know that hasn't yet happened because the Ukarainian leadershop don't want to open a historical can of worms and sheds a very dark light on their nationalist narrative. 

 

https://www.reuters.com/world/polish-presidents-veto-threatens-ukraines-starlink-access-amid-refugee-aid-2025-08-25/

 

"I believe this bill should clearly address Bandera and equate the Bandera symbol in the criminal code with symbols corresponding to German National Socialism, commonly known as Nazism, and Soviet communism," Nawrocki said.
Many Ukrainians regard Bandera and his militia as heroes of Kyiv's painful struggle for independence from Moscow.
But for many Poles, Bandera is associated with the Ukrainian Insurgent Army (UPA), which Warsaw says carried out mass killings of Polish civilians in 1943-44. Thousands of Ukrainians also died in reprisal killings.
"Any politicised decisions to equate Ukrainian symbols with Nazi and communist symbols could provoke negative sentiments in Ukrainian society and require a response from the Ukrainian side," the Ukrainian diplomatic source said.
Publicly promoting Nazi, fascist or communist ideas is subject to up to 3 years of prison under the Polish criminal code.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stepan_Bandera_monument_in_Lviv

 

Bandera is our father our mother is Ukraine is a very popular song in Ukraine and when you see the back and red flag there are his supporters. 

 

 

Halytskyi_District,_Lviv,_Lviv_Oblast,_Ukraine_-_panoramio_(280).jpg

7 hours ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

Looks according to a question I put through Chat 

 

 

 

While you are at it spending all day on Chat GPT5 and maxing out your free daily quote, check the numbers for Russian retirees in Thailand. I know you won't because West Bad, East Good, Four legs good, two legs bad, and all that.

12 hours ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

You persist in calling me a commie

 

 

You said you are a Trotskyist and Corbyn supporter. You are a communist.

 

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I was a Trot at university; we despised Tankies, often more than the “capitalist running dogs of the West

 

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Was a Trot way back when I'm now a democratic socialist voted Labour all my life come rain or shine but at th next election may vote for the Greens or Jeremy's Corbyn's new party.

 

 

 

9 minutes ago, MicroB said:

 

 

While you are at it spending all day on Chat GPT5 and maxing out your free daily quote, check the numbers for Russian retirees in Thailand. I know you won't because West Bad, East Good, Four legs good, two legs bad, and all that.

You rarely address my substantive points and instead resort to petty jabs. That’s fineI have broad shoulders and still welcome your contributions. I feel no need to retaliate; rising above it is always the better path.

As it should be we’re all, in our own way, passing the time here. You and I, same same.

That said, if you're in your twilight years and no longer able to get out much, you have my sympathy and I hold no grudge. I’ve just come back from a great day out at the Notting Hill Carnival with the missus. The weather was fantastic, and we had a lovely time but is every racists nightmare. 

13 minutes ago, MicroB said:

 

 

You said you are a Trotskyist and Corbyn supporter. You are a communist.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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18 hours ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

Now with Chat ...

 

Here's an improved, fact-checked, and properly sourced version of your post, keeping your tone and arguments intact but tightening structure, grammar, and clarity. I've added citations and supporting evidence where appropriate, and flagged some parts with context where needed:


I believe we’re witnessing a war of attrition, and frankly, you seem to have more time than I do to "knock one out," as you say. You keep branding me a commie or a Putin apologist, and suggest I rely on ChatGPT for opinions — but if you looked back at my posts from years ago (long before AI made grammar-polishing easier), you'd see that I was just as prosaic then. The difference is that back then, forums like this had more vibrant communities, packed with divergent opinions and people eager for a good debate. Like much of the West, the forum is fading, and I now spend more time elsewhere — mostly lurking on ARSSE and posting on the Reddit Ukraine/Russia Report, which, almost uniquely, allows posts from both sides of the conflict.

A term often used there is “Wunderwaffe” — a nod to Nazi Germany’s mythical “wonder weapons” — referring to the string of “game-changing” Western military systems promised to Ukraine. The thing is, they haven’t changed the game. These have often proven to be false dawns, aligned with a Biden administration policy of giving Ukraine “just enough” to bleed Russia, but not enough to decisively win.

So here we are. Ukraine’s Soviet-era arsenal is nearly exhausted. Western industrial production is only now ramping up — but not yet at scale, and even when it is, Western stockpiles will need replenishing first. There’s also the mounting economic burden of the war and rising unrest in Western democracies, where populations increasingly want butter, not guns. That sentiment is spreading fast. While many admire Ukraine's resilience in holding off Russia, support doesn’t necessarily extend to sending more aid — and certainly not boots on the ground.

Meanwhile, China has both massive industrial capacity, fast-advancing robotics, and a “Great Leap Forward” (yes, I said it!) in AI — having essentially scraped and copied U.S. innovation at scale. They’re keeping the masses on board, both through economic growth and with tools of authoritarian control unrivaled globally. This isn’t speculation — it’s being observed and documented across global institutions (see: CSIS).

As for Russia — Cold War-era factories are roaring back to life. No zoning permits. No OSHA. Just production. As I write this, another article drops supporting that point: Putin has effectively done what Trump only promised — created mass factory jobs in poor regions, providing work to the unskilled and undereducated, offering them not just wages but also social respect.

“These people live in underdeveloped regions. They work in once underperforming industries. They don’t have higher education. But now these assets and skills are in demand,” says Ekaterina Kurbangaleeva, a visiting scholar at George Washington University.

“They are getting higher salaries. Their savings are growing. And they are also getting social respect.”

Source: archive.ph/hKGHu

More importantly, the real money is in joining the military, where salaries, benefits, and status are even higher.

Take the Russian Lancet drones — some reportedly assembled in pop-up factories in repurposed shopping malls. That sort of improvisational agility is outpacing anything the Western military-industrial complex can manage — and at a fraction of the cost. Compare that with the UK’s £5 billion Ajax tank programme, a saga of dysfunction that has produced little more than headaches.

And what of our willingness to fight? Good luck convincing Gen Z in the UK — with their mental health crises, social alienation, and “woke” sensibilities — to sign up and take arms. Our countries are being hollowed out from within. And figures like Farage, rather than reversing this trend, are more likely to accelerate our decline.

This is late-stage, post-industrial, decadent capitalism. We are, in a very real sense, our own worst enemies.

And here I am at 62, sitting on my arse on a pension, flinging arguments at strangers online. If I were in Thailand, Russia, or China, I’d be out there working, or scraping by in a hovel. A point worth noting.


Final note:
This is my own analysis, my own words. I used AI to tighten things up a bit, but the thoughts, views, and conclusions are entirely my own. So next time, don’t throw “ChatGPT” at me as a slur. It’s a tool — I just use it for polish, not for thinking.

— Mike Yaewood


Would you like this cleaned up version as a document or ready-to-post forum/comment version? I can also break it down into points for a rebuttal or Reddit debate if needed.

Please start your own thread. This one is about events in the war, not your argument with another poster.

3 hours ago, stevenl said:

Please start your own thread. This one is about events in the war, not your argument with another poster.

Fair enough he started with the abuse and I replied politely in my defence but your point is taken. 

11 minutes ago, sharot724 said:

An accusation by Russia only.

Not confirmed. 

It was hit in the context of a massive drone attack by Ukraine on Russian energy infrastructure. 

Many drones are shot down and land elsewhere. 

That's likely what happened as Ukraine has no history of a policy to hit nuclear plants.

Ukraine unleashes carnage and blasts 13 Russian regions to mark a fiery Independence Day

 

Ukraine has launched a massive drone assault on Russia across at least 13 regions during the night in a fiery celebration of the embattled country's Independence Day from the Soviet Union.

 

The strike occurred as Donald Trump reportedly grows increasingly frustrated with Vladimir Putin for prolonging the conflict.

 

Reports emerged that the US has now committed to delivering 3,350 Extended Range Attack Missiles (ERAM) to Ukraine within six weeks under a new Trump administration initiative, primarily financed by other Western nations.

 

The night-time strikes on crucial Putin energy infrastructure and fresh US missile deliveries came after Trump informed Zelensky that Ukraine "has no chance of winning the war without striking Russia".

 

More:

https://www.the-express.com/news/world-news/181332/ukraine-unleashes-carnage-blasts-13

If you want to join the civilised world and distance yourself from the brutal practices and culture of Russia, then you must first confront your own deeply problematic past with honesty, not revisionism.

Poland has recently banned the black-and-red "Bandera" flag, a symbol associated with the Organisation of Ukrainian Nationalists (OUN). This decision is rooted in painful historical truth: the OUN and its military wing, the UPA, were responsible for the massacre of approximately 100,000 Poles during World War II, mostly in Volhynia and Eastern Galicia. These were not battlefield deaths they were civilians, murdered in some of the most inhumane and sadistic ways imaginable.

Yet when this history is mentioned, notice the language used by many Ukrainian sources: carefully worded, often evasive, and notably lacking in any clear acceptance of guilt or accountability. It is not enough to speak of "tragedy" or "complexity" these atrocities were ethnic cleansing, plain and simple. If Ukraine wants to be part of Europe truly part of a democratic, human-rights-respecting community then it must also adopt Europe's standards for confronting history: with truth, regret, and moral clarity. Glossing over past crimes or continuing to venerate figures like Stepan Bandera, whose ideology fuelled hatred and violence, undermines any claim to moral high ground over Russia. Europe has no place for selective memory, nationalist denial, or flags soaked in the blood of innocents.

 

https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2025/08/25/7527762/

 

Details: On Monday 25 August, Nawrocki announced a legislative initiative that would amend Poland’s Criminal Code to equate the "Bandera symbol" with Nazi and communist symbols. [Stepan Bandera was a Ukrainian nationalist leader who is often criticised in Poland for extremist actions during the Second World War – ed.]

"We are analysing the legal implications of the decisions made and their potential impact on the situation of Ukrainian citizens in Poland," a diplomatic source said.

The source said Kyiv is grateful to Warsaw for all its past decisions in favour of Ukrainian citizens and believes their rights will be respected no less than in other European Union countries.

1 hour ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

If you want to join the civilised world and distance yourself from the brutal practices and culture of Russia, then you must first confront your own deeply problematic past with honesty, not revisionism.

Poland has recently banned the black-and-red "Bandera" flag, a symbol associated with the Organisation of Ukrainian Nationalists (OUN). This decision is rooted in painful historical truth: the OUN and its military wing, the UPA, were responsible for the massacre of approximately 100,000 Poles during World War II, mostly in Volhynia and Eastern Galicia. These were not battlefield deaths they were civilians, murdered in some of the most inhumane and sadistic ways imaginable.

Yet when this history is mentioned, notice the language used by many Ukrainian sources: carefully worded, often evasive, and notably lacking in any clear acceptance of guilt or accountability. It is not enough to speak of "tragedy" or "complexity" these atrocities were ethnic cleansing, plain and simple. If Ukraine wants to be part of Europe truly part of a democratic, human-rights-respecting community then it must also adopt Europe's standards for confronting history: with truth, regret, and moral clarity. Glossing over past crimes or continuing to venerate figures like Stepan Bandera, whose ideology fuelled hatred and violence, undermines any claim to moral high ground over Russia. Europe has no place for selective memory, nationalist denial, or flags soaked in the blood of innocents.

 

https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2025/08/25/7527762/

 

Details: On Monday 25 August, Nawrocki announced a legislative initiative that would amend Poland’s Criminal Code to equate the "Bandera symbol" with Nazi and communist symbols. [Stepan Bandera was a Ukrainian nationalist leader who is often criticised in Poland for extremist actions during the Second World War – ed.]

"We are analysing the legal implications of the decisions made and their potential impact on the situation of Ukrainian citizens in Poland," a diplomatic source said.

The source said Kyiv is grateful to Warsaw for all its past decisions in favour of Ukrainian citizens and believes their rights will be respected no less than in other European Union countries.

Sourcing Pravda. That's rich. 

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

Sourcing Pravda. That's rich. 

Err that's the Ukrainian Pravda which is regarded along with the Kyiv Independent as one of the foremost English language news sources in Ukraine. You will of course be thinking about the USSR's famous newspaper Pravda that was a touchstone for communist lies. 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainska_Pravda

 

 

Pravda Stalin death.jpg

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