Wake Up! - EVs Are Here, and Your Gas Guzzler is on Life Support

[DavisH]

7 hours ago, atpeace said:

So when EV trucks get over 1000kms between charges? Probably will be a reality in the next 5-10 years. As for me, I would be happy with a 400 km real world range. The Rivian R1T and that weird Tesla truck already have larger payloads than any of the ICE trucks I see on the road here.  They get around 600 km per charge.  They cost a fortune but just saying 🙂

600km on one charge, how about carrying 1000kg in the back? It seems they are more of a recreational vehicle at this time, as opposed to a work vehicle. 

[jimmybcool]

10 hours ago, KhunLA said:

It will depend on the chemistry of the battery.  Here's a comparison, old, and new chemistry (LFP), that most newer BEVs use.  Supposedly a conservative estimate for LFP batteries, as some state, will last up to 10k cycles, so 2500 is pretty conservative, if not damn negative number.

 

A cycle (1), if you don't already know is 100% charge.  So if you run down to 50% one day, recharge, run again down to 50%, and recharge, you used 1 cycle.

 

The red text, is 'our' car, and my ball park estimate of life, and still retaining 70 ish %, to be on the negative side.  We average about 20k kms a year.

 

 

I forget how many cycles I was told the battery had.  But they also didn't tell me that 50% recharge twice counts as one recharge.  I suspect my golf cart will outlast me as I near the 70 year mark and per the above use about 2 cycles a week.  Good to know.

 

One thing I really liked was no more putting water into the lead/acid batteries.  Ad when I leave home to come to Thailand for 2 months when I return the battery is still charged and I don't need a trickle charger. 

[Gweiloman]

14 hours ago, Jaggg88 said:

The biggest problem with EVs is the depreciation. The batteries start degrading from day one and somewhere between 5 and 8 years the batteries will need replacing, which costs more than the car is worth.

The biggest problem with anti-EVers is that they often don’t know what they’re talking about. 

[JBChiangRai]

19 hours ago, Doctor Tom said:

Until you crash, then they are a death trap 

 

It depends on the battery technology.  BYD use LFP batteries, they don't catch fire typically they smolder.

 

 

[JBChiangRai]

18 hours ago, Thingamabob said:

22 hours ago, JBChiangRai said:

I think you are very wrong, battery technology is advancing at such a pace that EV‘s are a damn near perfect source of road transportation for passenger cars.

You've got to be joking. 

 

Try & name a better solution, and say why.

[JBChiangRai]

18 hours ago, Thingamabob said:

I drive from Bangkok to our place near to Rayong and back, 400 Kms in total approx, twice a month. Any thoughts on whether or not an EV would be practical for this purpose ?

 

18 hours ago, Andrew Dwyer said:

I drive to visit an ageing mil around twice a month, 420 kms in total or 460 km if we go out for lunch.

I don’t need to charge but if necessary I can pull in to one of many chargers on highway 32 for a 10% top up to make sure i get home and put the car to charge overnight at 3 baht per kw.

 

Your cost of doing this return journey in an EV with a TOU meter installed at home with no solar power is circa 250 baht

[Thingamabob]

1 hour ago, JBChiangRai said:

 

Try & name a better solution, and say why.

Research into a number of alternative power sources is underway including ethanol, hydrogen, propane, LPG, and methanol. One of the reasons this research is being carried out is a widespread concern that EVs' green credentials are far from proven.

[Andrew Dwyer]

13 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

 

 

Your cost of doing this return journey in an EV with a TOU meter installed at home with no solar power is circa 250 baht

Yes, if that !

It takes me around 38-43% each way ( 210 km ) meaning my range is around 490-550 km

 

So around 200-230 baht there and back.

 

A 0-100% charge would cost around 260 baht.