4 Israeli men fined for causing chaos at hospital in Mae Hong Son

[BonnieandClyde]

30 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

It used to be qa popular place but sadly it has been taken over by deplorables.

So true, but four of them have just been taken off the scene.

Things seem to be moving in the right direction.

[watchcat]

On 2/6/2025 at 10:57 AM, snoop1130 said:

The group expressed their anger and caused a disturbance in the hospital, despite a crowd of patients waiting for treatment.

 They couldn't order a coke coke with 4 straws like in the good old days.

 

[Jingthing]

2 minutes ago, watchcat said:

 They couldn't order a coke coke with 4 straws like in the good old days.

 

Sounds like an urban myth. 

[aussiebrian]

On 2/7/2025 at 1:07 PM, CFIAM said:

 

So are they any Jew haters here? I ask you since you claim that you can recognise them.

Well, you and 90% of the posters here. 

[Spock]

On 2/7/2025 at 11:48 AM, rick44 said:

As a mental exercise, try replacing the term “Isreali nationals” in this article with say… Americans! Do you condemn all Americans because of the actions of a small group of people?

 

This article proffers only the view points of the hospital staff. We haven’t heard the rebuttal from the Israelis.

 

Normally, a balanced news article should have the story from both sides .

But it's not a small group - it's time and again according to hospital staff and obviously to the restaurant owners in both places who have banned them from entry. I don't want to hear a rebuttal from the Israelis as I wouldn't believe it. Their behaviour and sense of entitlement is all too well documented.

[Spock]

On 2/7/2025 at 12:56 PM, Nick Carter icp said:

 

  Similar things are said about the Russians , Chinese , Indians , British , Kuwaitis and Americans 

I haven't heard anything similar about any of the groups you mention. Smoking cigarettes and weed in hospitals! First time I have heard that and not just one isolated case.

[Spock]

On 2/7/2025 at 1:45 PM, JonnyF said:

The anti-semites have been waiting quite a while for this thread.

 

Fill yer boots. 😄

Not their fault that the Israelis have made it so damn easy for those who dislike them to criticise them. 

[Nick Carter icp]

3 minutes ago, Spock said:

I haven't heard anything similar about any of the groups you mention. Smoking cigarettes and weed in hospitals! First time I have heard that and not just one isolated case.

 

   So you are saying that this is the first time that a foreigner has ever smoked in a Thai hospital ?

   No foreigner has ever smoked a cigarette in a Thai hospital ever, this is the one and only time ?

[Hummin]

4 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   So you are saying that this is the first time that a foreigner has ever smoked in a Thai hospital ?

   No foreigner has ever smoked a cigarette in a Thai hospital ever, this is the one and only time ?

There is pot smoking all over the country now at hot spots like Pai, and the more popular party islands at public places. Ridiculous and catastrophic for every other tourists and locals.

 

The worst and most annoying egoistic type of tourists at the moment, drug tourists 

[Spock]

On 2/7/2025 at 4:25 PM, jayboy said:

 

Yes of course, and it is of course absurd to generalize in this way given the diversity in each nationality.

 

However as we can see in this thread some people get strangely agitated when Jews are involved. Reference to this particular incident and the poor behavior a a few Israeli tourists is fair enough, but many of the comments here refer with contempt to 'the Israelis' as a national group.There is a name for this.

In the 2nd WW, I am sure that all Germans were lumped together in the same category and disliked because of the actions of their leaders, army and country. Lumping all Israelis together in this instance amounts to the same thing. Jews living elsewhere and not sharing the views of their country men are not part of that national group. Criticising Israel and Israelis if you object to their treatment of Palestinians is not anti semitic. 

[oslooskar]

37 minutes ago, Spock said:

I am sure that all Germans were lumped together in the same category and disliked because of the actions of their leaders, army and country.

 

In my backpacking days, I hated staying in the same youth hostels with Germans because they always had to get up at some ungodly hour of the morning and disturb every civilized person still in bed. 

[jayboy]

1 hour ago, Spock said:

Criticising Israel and Israelis if you object to their treatment of Palestinians is not anti semitic. 

 

Agreed but if Israel is always picked out - when other far worse abuses by other countries are ignored - one suspects antisemitism is at work.Also many antisemites use the cover of criticism of Israel to disguise their prejudice.

[Albaby]

On 2/7/2025 at 12:36 PM, Negita43 said:

No but I condemn all Isralis who support killing non combatants in a "war"

Are you saying pallies are human?

[paddypower]

On 2/7/2025 at 7:48 AM, rick44 said:

As a mental exercise, try replacing the term “Isreali nationals” in this article with say… Americans! Do you condemn all Americans because of the actions of a small group of people?

 

This article proffers only the view points of the hospital staff. We haven’t heard the rebuttal from the Israelis.

 

Normally, a balanced news article should have the story from both sides .

oh ! you mean like Israeli military? no international news teams allowed into Gaza. the alternative being to get shot ? 

[paddypower]

30 minutes ago, jayboy said:

 

Agreed but if Israel is always picked out - when other far worse abuses by other countries are ignored - one suspects antisemitism is at work.Also many antisemites use the cover of criticism of Israel to disguise their prejudice.

''  Agreed but if Israel is always picked out - when other far worse abuses by other countries are ignored'' . nobody except my MAGA friends) support Russia's invasions of neighboring countries. whats your opinion on that situation?  Criticism of Israel is NOT antisemitism.  this is a worn out misrepresentation. The Jews amongst my friends are 99% against the way Israeli has been ' bombing the $~## out of civilians. what Hamas did and does is indefensible.  if you read today's news you will find that Israel is rubbing its hands in glee at the prospect of grabbing even more land, despite international law. FYI: Israel is a country. Judaism is a world wide religion, as much based on the teaching of other religions such as Islam and Christianity. The majority of countries in the world support the concept of a 2 state solution.  

[scorecard]

On 2/7/2025 at 6:45 AM, hotchilli said:

Stop them at the airport... easy.

Sorry no Israelis

 

As is standard for Malaysia, persons presenting an Israeli passport not allowed to enter Malaysia. same for Indonesia. All based on religion.

[Jingthing]

18 minutes ago, scorecard said:

As is standard for Malaysia, persons presenting an Israeli passport not allowed to enter Malaysia. same for Indonesia. All based on religion.

It's not based on religion. Jews of other nationalities can travel to Malaysia, etc.

[bradiston]

20 minutes ago, scorecard said:

As is standard for Malaysia, persons presenting an Israeli passport not allowed to enter Malaysia. same for Indonesia. All based on religion.

 

[Nick Carter icp]

1 minute ago, bradiston said:

I can't find any reference for this statement. It's been made before on this thread, but no links to factual evidence. The Malaysian government has barred Israeli ships from docking at their ports, is all I could find. Please provide links or retract and apologise.

 

   Could you do a Google search ?

 "Can Israelis visit Malaysia "

I will do a websearch for you 

 

https://www.google.com/search?q=Can+Israelis+visit+Malaysia&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

[scorecard]

6 minutes ago, bradiston said:

I can't find any reference for this statement. It's been made before on this thread, but no links to factual evidence. The Malaysian government has barred Israeli ships from docking at their ports, is all I could find. Please provide links or retract and apologise.

 

Based on fact. My multinational employer wanted to have a regional seminar for all staff in the Asia / Middle East region.

 

First venue chosen was Malaysia but company admin. then discovered that Israeli staff (at that time about 12 people) could not enter Malaysia. Indonesia then considered, again discovered Israelis couldn't attend - cannot enter Indonesia.

 

The seminar was held in Bangkok.

 

No further comment. 

[bradiston]

1 minute ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Could you do a Google search ?

 "Can Israelis visit Malaysia "

I will do a websearch for you 

 

https://www.google.com/search?q=Can+Israelis+visit+Malaysia&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Yes, I found it and edited my comment. Apologies - my mistake.

[bradiston]

Just now, scorecard said:

Based on fact. My multinational employer wanted to have a regional seminar for all staff in the Asia / middle East region.

First venue chosen was Malaysia but company admin. then discovered that Israeli staff (at that time about 12 people) could not enter Malaysia. Indonesia then considered, again discovered Israelis couldn't attend - cannot enter Indonesia.

 

The seminar was held in Bangkok.

 

No further comment. 

Ok, I found the references myself.

[bradiston]

6 minutes ago, scorecard said:

 

Based on fact. My multinational employer wanted to have a regional seminar for all staff in the Asia / Middle East region.

 

First venue chosen was Malaysia but company admin. then discovered that Israeli staff (at that time about 12 people) could not enter Malaysia. Indonesia then considered, again discovered Israelis couldn't attend - cannot enter Indonesia.

 

The seminar was held in Bangkok.

 

No further comment. 

"Israeli passport holders are not allowed to enter Afghanistan, Algeria, Bangladesh, Brunei, Iran, Iraq, Kuwait, Lebanon, Libya, Malaysia, North Korea, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Yemen." There are different versions of this list, and differing rules if you have an Israeli entry stamp in your passport. Point taken, though.

 

Here's just one source. There are many:

 

https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/x-post-shows-nations-that-deny-entry-to-israelis-country-says-were-good-5254780

[hotchilli]

59 minutes ago, scorecard said:

As is standard for Malaysia, persons presenting an Israeli passport not allowed to enter Malaysia. same for Indonesia. All based on religion.

Based on behavioural patterns

[bradiston]

47 minutes ago, hotchilli said:

Based on behavioural patterns

Actually, based on non recognition of the state of Israel. Hence no diplomatic relations.

 

Seems I've had to fill in for people who don't post links.

[Hummin]

What does Israeli news says about their fellow countrymen in Pai? 

[Negita43]

2 hours ago, Albaby said:

Are you saying pallies are human?

As human as you are

[scorecard]

28 minutes ago, Negita43 said:

As human as you are

Sure the Hamas attacks were not OK.

 

Sure the jews were treated badly in WW2 / the holocaust.

 

But don't forget the long past history over decades of the Palestinians being given very poor treatment / disgraceful treatment by the Israelis. 

[Spock]

5 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   So you are saying that this is the first time that a foreigner has ever smoked in a Thai hospital ?

   No foreigner has ever smoked a cigarette in a Thai hospital ever, this is the one and only time ?

First time I heard of it is what I said. 

[Spock]

4 hours ago, jayboy said:

 

Agreed but if Israel is always picked out - when other far worse abuses by other countries are ignored - one suspects antisemitism is at work.Also many antisemites use the cover of criticism of Israel to disguise their prejudice.

How do you know that those people who criticised Israel's actions against Gaza have not also criticised Russia's invasion of Ukraine or any other country in conflict around the world? I don't doubt that there are anti-semites hiding behind the 'cover of criticism', but far far too many people have been outspoken against and demonstrated against Israel's actions for them to all be anti semites. The anti semitic allegations have also been a convenient way for supporters of Israel's action to dismiss a lot of very valid criticism of that country, it's leadership and its actions.