US Aid Freeze Linked to Refugee's Death at Thai Border

[harryviking]

Just now, Patong2021 said:

 

Again, I ask, why it is the USA's responsibility? Yes, Musk is an evil man, but that is a side issue. Where is it either the legal or moral obligation to care for people who have no relationship to the USA and in a country that has hitched its wagon to the Chinese choo choo train.

Then why started at all?? If the US want to behave and be like those more or less dictatorships that could not care <deleted> even about their own population?? It must be clear to the rest of the world that America is now retracting from a civilized place to a fascist driven place for selfish ignorant imbeciles! They really voted in the right people for exactly that!!

[Yagoda]

15 minutes ago, connda said:

Talk about a bitter, hate-filled progressive.  We're back to how the Left handles itself. When you're incapable of posing an intelligent counter-argument, you default to ad-hominid attacks, slurs, and defamatory hyperbole. 
It's sad to see such bitter hatred consume someone.  I'm sorry your life sucks so badly. 

The life of the Socialist/Leftist is one of hate and misery. Imagine, living your life constantly obsessed with the "oppressor" and the "victims".  Cant even enjoy a cup of coffee, "what? Is that coffee free trade harvested by peasant cooperatives and roasted using solar power? No? You slimy Trumpette, take your jackboot off the necks of the peasants, how dare you exploit, shut it down..."

[harryviking]

4 minutes ago, ignore it said:

Yeah

 

And what about all those trannies in Brazil or wherever?

 

With USAID cut who is going to make sure their make-up lessons and catwalk strut practice can continue?

🤣😂😂

[Patong2021]

1 minute ago, harryviking said:

Then why started at all?? If the US want to behave and be like those more or less dictatorships that could not care <deleted> even about their own population?? It must be clear to the rest of the world that America is now retracting from a civilized place to a fascist driven place for selfish ignorant imbeciles! They really voted in the right people for exactly that!!

 

You have not though this through, nor have you addressed the central issue of why it is the USA's sole obligation to care for people in a far off region, a region which  does not support the USA's national interests.

 

The US government is there to act  in the best interest of its citizens. Currently, the USA has a massive deficit. It also has  a financial obligation to its own citizens. In order to maintain the generous social assistance network in the USA, it has to be funded. The USA can't keep borrowing to fund its social services disbursements.  

 

You are free to criticize the USA. Good for you. Now please direct your anger at your own nation and region and demand that it   pay more for people who don't care about you.  Thailand has its nose up China's backside. Now it can ask China to  provide the vast sums of  foreign aid that the USA, Japan and other western nations provide. The USA was at its breaking point. It can't keep giving, because it doesn't have the money to give. The small group of taxpayers who pay for much of this spending don't want to fund it anymore. They want the money to go to repairing collapsing infrastructure  and poorvpeople in the USA.

[Thingamabob]

Attempting to link this death to Trump is both ridiculous and pathetic.

[fredwiggy]

2 hours ago, connda said:

Again - the US can't take care of the health of its own citizens first.  Until it can, it's not the responsiblity of the US to care for the rest of the world.  Using your own logic, the lack of proper healthcare for all of its citizens can "lead to the spread of infectious diseases."

My guess is that between 2020 and 2023, maybe even to the present, you have worn a mask and taken all of the Covid shots, and have had Covid at least once.  Maybe if the US didn't fund so many gain-of-function labs in the past we wouldn't have so many infectious diseases.  Lab leaks, deliberate or accidental, imho probably cause the vast majority of novel epidemics.

And using your own logic, the US should be supplying me with the same healthcare as they do refugees on the Thai border in order to prevent "the spread of infectious diseases," as being a US citizen, I'm the one most likely to travel cross-border and bring sickness into my own country.  And yet?  They don't.  So enough - we're polar opposites in our beliefs and that will never be resolved. I'm glad the Trump Administration and DOGE have shut off the spigot of US funding, and hopefully when they turn it on again it's "America and Americans First" and then we can discuss the rest of the world.

True, the US should have had health care that is available to everyone, paid for by taxes, instead of giving US money to other countries. Trump might be a weirdo, but he's definitely American gung ho. Hopefully this gung ho attitude doesn't backfire, as the US, like all other countries in Nato, needs other countries for many things, as they also need us.

[impulse]

5 minutes ago, Thingamabob said:

Attempting to link this death to Trump is both ridiculous and pathetic.

 

But that's all the Dems and their paid media minions have.

 

[thesetat]

17 minutes ago, harryviking said:

Then why started at all?? If the US want to behave and be like those more or less dictatorships that could not care <deleted> even about their own population?? It must be clear to the rest of the world that America is now retracting from a civilized place to a fascist driven place for selfish ignorant imbeciles! They really voted in the right people for exactly that!!

I think you are wrong. Especially given that most of this USAIDs money was for Black OPs and subversive OPs rather than for helping people.

[TheFishman1]

I wish Trump would show proof of misappropriate funds in that organization he does things without thinking I won’t be surprised if he next goes after the FBI in the CIA jump hangs around with Elon and he wants to be good friends with Putin should I say more

[Purdey]

I have to agree that closing hospitals where poor people are sick is the right decision by a country which does not want to be a part of global society. 

It isn't fair to ask the rich to help the poor. Let them eat cake. 

As for those who cross the border to get cheap health care, let their own countrymen pay for them even though they can't afford it.

Why care for the sick and poor abroad while rich countries already have a lot of sick and poor, which they have no intention to help? 

[Nid_Noi]

1 hour ago, HappyExpat57 said:

If it's not the USA, then it's Russia or China.

Or, is this an alternative you prefer?

My alternatives would be : Thailand then the ASEAN countries. They have money for their military goons but not for the refugees on their soil.

[Nickcage49]

How did her death cause this? It was Trump's action to freeze all foreign aid.

[jesimps]

4 hours ago, Artisi said:

Just another intelligent Trump initiative - absolutely no pre-thought or consideration regarding the outcome. 

It means that other countries who normally are happy for the US to pick up the bill will now have to step up. Why not? There are a lot of needy US citizens ie homeless veterans.

[connda]

50 minutes ago, Nid_Noi said:

My alternatives would be : Thailand then the ASEAN countries. They have money for their military goons but not for the refugees on their soil.

Yep. Exactly.
"It's America's responsibility!"

Nope - it's the responsibility of the host country afford refugee status.

[JulesMad]

4 hours ago, KhunLA said:

R I P President Trump.

 

Thank you (for dying quickly)

That reads so much better

[Yellowtail]

3 hours ago, Hamus Yaigh said:

That statement definitely reflects a narrow and short-sighted view of the world. It ignores the interconnections of the global community and the long-term benefits of providing aid.

 

Such attitudes can come back to bite the US in the long run - China is laughing at you. For example, the lack of health care infrastructure in some developing countries can lead to the spread of infectious diseases, which can then travel across borders and affect Americans as well. Similarly, political instability in other countries can create economic and security problems for the US.

 

Except that everyone moaning about Trump already sees the US as an evil. colonialist empire. 

 

 

[Yellowtail]

1 hour ago, connda said:

Talk about a bitter, hate-filled progressive.  We're back to how the Left handles itself. When you're incapable of posing an intelligent counter-argument, you default to ad-hominid attacks, slurs, and defamatory hyperbole. 
It's sad to see such bitter hatred consume someone.  I'm sorry your life sucks so badly. 

They project. Most all hate comes from the left. 

[Burma Bill]

5 hours ago, webfact said:

had been the lifeline for many refugees like Pe Kha Lau, who sadly passed away.

 

 

Referring to the original post, I find it very sad that two persons have posted "smile" emojis. There are some very callous people on AN.

This Burmese individual no doubt relied on medical aid at the refugee camp, which was suddenly stopped. RIP Pe Kha Lau.

I hope mad DT will pass away - very soon!

 

No further comment from me.

[fittobethaied]

You can expect to see more and more of these types of stories, mostly embellished and untrue stories used as propaganda against the Trump administration. So-called paid independent journalists around the world will be creating dramatic sob stories to perpetuate the narrative that Trump is a ruthless dictator. Don't fall for the BS!

[Hawaiian]

1 hour ago, harryviking said:

True. But there is another way. Slower and more thoughtful! Abrupt shutoff is a bad idea.   

This is what happens when you delay, delay, delay.  This should have started years ago.  Too late for slow and thoughtful. They had more than enough time to think this over.

[Hawaiian]

1 minute ago, fittobethaied said:

You can expect to see more and more of these types of stories, mostly embellished and untrue stories used as propaganda against the Trump administration. So-called paid independent journalists around the world will be creating dramatic sob stories to perpetuate the narrative that Trump is a ruthless dictator. Don't fall for the BS!

I'm not falling for the BS.

[Hawaiian]

6 minutes ago, Burma Bill said:

 

Referring to the original post, I find it very sad that two persons have posted "smile" emojis. There are some very callous people on AN.

This Burmese individual no doubt relied on medical aid at the refugee camp, which was suddenly stopped. RIP Pe Kha Lau.

I hope mad DT will pass away - very soon!

 

No further comment from me.

You complain about very callous people posting "smile" emojis, and then wish DT passes away very soon.  Such hypocrisy.

[Hawaiian]

1 hour ago, Purdey said:

I have to agree that closing hospitals where poor people are sick is the right decision by a country which does not want to be a part of global society. 

It isn't fair to ask the rich to help the poor. Let them eat cake. 

As for those who cross the border to get cheap health care, let their own countrymen pay for them even though they can't afford it.

Why care for the sick and poor abroad while rich countries already have a lot of sick and poor, which they have no intention to help? 

Thailand, also,  is a rich country with many wealthy individuals.

[KhunLA]

37 minutes ago, JulesMad said:

That reads so much better

"Pe Kha Lau, a 71-year-old refugee with chronic lung issues, succumbed to her condition just days after being discharged from the healthcare facility."

 

"Pe Kha Lau, 71, died on Sunday after becoming short of breath four days after she was sent home from a healthcare facility "

 

Died Sunday, Feb 2

Released Jan 30 (TH time) 29th (USA time)

Executive order signed Jan 28 (USA time) so Jan 29th, TH time.

 

Did the clinic even get notified USAID funding would be halted, before she died, or clinic supposedly closed ?  USA isn't exactly the most efficient gov't.

 

But it's Trumps fault 

 

What next, MB accidents or the smog season ?

 

[spidermike007]

Trump has made a terrible mistake by cutting off all foreign aid to these small charities that aid poor refugees. Chances are he does not lose one moment of sleep over the death and starvation of people too poor to feed themselves. The man has zero compassion, zero empathy, and I seriously question if he even possesses a soul. 

[johng]

1 hour ago, thesetat said:

I think you are wrong. Especially given that most of this USAIDs money was for Black OPs and subversive OPs rather than for helping people.

Yep USAID seems to have been a side branch of the CIA  !!!

[thailand49]

7 hours ago, NickyLouie said:

Ain't USA taxpayers problem anymore.

 

Yes, we do we get blasted we don't we get blasted. The abuse known for years now they got busted it is Trumps fault!  USAid could have fix it the death sad if it was in fact due to the cut, what was Thailand and others doing to help prior what the F was IRC doing! 

More pain is coming lots more as a former Demo it has been long coming finally here!

[impulse]

2 hours ago, fittobethaied said:

You can expect to see more and more of these types of stories, mostly embellished and untrue stories used as propaganda against the Trump administration. So-called paid independent journalists around the world will be creating dramatic sob stories to perpetuate the narrative that Trump is a ruthless dictator. Don't fall for the BS!

 

Agreed.  And a lot of those so called independent journalists are just pissed off that their USAID funding will end.  As I read it, about 8000 "journalists" have been getting USAID money.  To perpetuate that narrative.

 

[thailand49]

7 hours ago, impulse said:

 

So Trump's to blame for a 71 year old dying of chronic lung problems where the air sucks several months of every year?  What's next?  A 98 year old grandpa who died in a scooter accident?

 

Talk about reaching.  Someone has the Orange Man Bad affliction.

 

Right Bravo, the US gives 500 billion to the WHO which they in turn give Thailand like 10-15 million to help with the road death, what does Thailand leaders do every year for that money put up signs on the road yet after 20 years they are still top of the list.

 

IS EVERY DEATH IN THAILAND ON THE ROAD THEN THE U.S. FAULT! 

[thailand49]

6 hours ago, Hamus Yaigh said:

That statement definitely reflects a narrow and short-sighted view of the world. It ignores the interconnections of the global community and the long-term benefits of providing aid.

 

Such attitudes can come back to bite the US in the long run - China is laughing at you. For example, the lack of health care infrastructure in some developing countries can lead to the spread of infectious diseases, which can then travel across borders and affect Americans as well. Similarly, political instability in other countries can create economic and security problems for the US.

 

It isn't a narrow view the more the U.S. the more we get blasted for nation building have some intend etc.. people around the world have their hands out and when U.S. ask for them to pay their share, be accountable it is what " narrow view " what is narrow in reality is your own view unable to get the big picture. I like you just want our tax money to go where it actually benefits for the intent have you even seen the list of donation or so call aid then you got a U.S. agency with employees who think the money comes from the world and not U.S. alone thumb their nose that they not need to be accountable.

 

It is just USAid, more is coming even if this Adminitration doesn't get it all their way the message has been sent to everyone in the world. To those who seem to think China, is the answer go don't let the door hit you on the way out  I say your choice go and live with it in time you will find out who is really the devil in sheep clothing.  Any narrow view comes from you own bias!