BREAKING NEWS Trump Signals Potential Meeting with Putin in Saudi Arabia Amid Ukraine War Talks

[Mike_Hunt]

I think the EU should expel Russia from Ukraine.   It's time for the EU to flex on Russia. 

[dinsdale]

Just now, Mike_Hunt said:

I think the EU should expel Russia from Ukraine.   It's time for the EU to flex on Russia. 

And exactly how will this be done? Given any thought to this particular comment? How long did it take for Germany to send one Leopard tank? By the way tanks aren't exactly what Ukraine needs neither are F16's both supplied in very small numbers.

 

[Hanaguma]

1 minute ago, dinsdale said:

And exactly how will this be done? Given any thought to this particular comment? How long did it take for Germany to send one Leopard tank? By the way tanks aren't exactly what Ukraine needs neither are F16's both supplied in very small numbers.

 

You are right. No amount of weapons will help when the need is bodies. Ukraine is running out of bodies.  So either the Europeans/US join in the fun and risk WW3, or the war ends with some harsh conditions for Ukraine.

 

Any other outcome seem possible?

[Lacessit]

8 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Complete crap posts are a common symptom of a particular syndrome.

 

It's quite understandable you don't comprehend logical fallacies, given you use them quite frequently.

[Autocan]

It's beyond shocking that Trump and Putin will meet in Saudi Arabia without Zelensky or the Europeans present. The puppet and vassals must have seats at the table. Maybe on shorter chairs but they should be there.

[Mike_Hunt]

1 hour ago, dinsdale said:

And exactly how will this be done? Given any thought to this particular comment? How long did it take for Germany to send one Leopard tank? By the way tanks aren't exactly what Ukraine needs neither are F16's both supplied in very small numbers.

 

 

That is the issue.  The EU is weak and useless.  

[Mike_Hunt]

1 hour ago, Autocan said:

It's beyond shocking that Trump and Putin will meet in Saudi Arabia without Zelensky or the Europeans present. The puppet and vassals must have seats at the table. Maybe on shorter chairs but they should be there.

Let's see the EU step up and get involved. 

[scottiejohn]

9 hours ago, dinsdale said:

Complete crap posts are a common symptom of a particular syndrome.

And from certain posters!

[scottiejohn]

8 hours ago, Mike_Hunt said:

 

That is the issue.  The EU is weak and useless.  

 

7 hours ago, Mike_Hunt said:

Let's see the EU step up and get involved. 

One minute you say "The EU is weak and useless." Then you say "Let's see the EU step up and get involved."

If the EU us as week and useless as you say then how are they going to get involved!

 

[Yellowtail]

2 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

And from certain posters!

yip yap yip yip yip!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[scottiejohn]

1 minute ago, Yellowtail said:

yip yap yip yip yip!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What does that mean and what is it's relevance to the topic?

 

PS; Have you taken over as the barking dog from Yagoda or have you forgotten which username to use today??

[Lacessit]

7 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

yip yap yip yip yip!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If you are trying to convince us you are barking mad............

[Yellowtail]

10 hours ago, Jingthing said:

I am less critical of Obama than Biden as far as the response to Putin's imperialism.

Why?

Because it was clear at the time that Europe was not excited by the theft of Crimea and I don't think there was any chance of a strong NATO response at that time.

It was like, OK, Crimea specifically has a uniquely odd history with Russia, Europe isn't on fire over this, why should the U.S. light the fire?

But under Biden a real coalition happened organically but Biden made the mistake of slow walking the response.

Once Ukraine got through the first few days, he should have given Ukraine all they needed to win quickly and ignore Putin's nuclear fear mongering.

That was the opportunity lost. It could have been over the first year with Ukraine clearly winning.

But at least Biden helped enough with Europe for Ukraine to hold on. 

But Trump is now surrending to Putin at a time of weakness for Russia in their economy.

That is evil.

What is the real status of Ukraine now? How many dead young men and how many have fled the county not wanting to fight. 

 

I think you are correct about "...the opportunity lost", the key word being lost. 

 

Ending the war, NATO arming up and the US arming Ukraine to the teeth funded by rare earth metals seems like a decent plan to me. 

[Yellowtail]

14 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

And from certain posters!

What does that mean and what is its relevance to the topic?

[Yellowtail]

3 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

If you are trying to convince us you are barking mad............

What does that mean and what is its relevance to the topic?

[Lacessit]

15 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

What does that mean and what is its relevance to the topic?

It has the same relevance as your yip yap. Hush now, adults are posting.

[bunnydrops]

Trump is already helping Russia. Since his speech the Ruble has gained 7% to the Dollar.

[Yellowtail]

6 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

It has the same relevance as your yip yap. Hush now, adults are posting.

QED

[bunnydrops]

It was said about a year or so ago that Russia could sustain this war for another 2 years. The Russian people are just beginning to feel the pain. There is talk that there will not be enough manpower coming to this spring harvest. Russia needs this war to end as much if not more than anyone else.

 

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2025/02/14/russias-central-bank-holds-key-rate-at-21-says-inflation-pressures-remain-high-a88013

[Yellowtail]

1 minute ago, bunnydrops said:

It was said about a year or so ago that Russia could sustain this war for another 2 years. The Russian people are just beginning to feel the pain. There is talk that there will not be enough manpower coming to this spring harvest. Russia needs this war to end as much if not more than anyone else.

 

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2025/02/14/russias-central-bank-holds-key-rate-at-21-says-inflation-pressures-remain-high-a88013

How long have the Ukrainians been feeling the pain?

 

Everyone needs the war to end.