Bill to ban mRNA vaccines passes out of House committee

[Red Phoenix]

Great News > A bill that would ban the use of mRNA vaccines, including for Covid-19, is on its way to the House floor after passing out of committee in a party-line vote Wednesday.  

 

Source: https://dailyinterlake.com/news/2025/feb/14/bill-to-ban-mrna-vaccines-passes-out-of-house-committee/

 

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Some excerpts from the article: 

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The bill deems the technology, which was employed to create the Covid-19 vaccines, a hazard. 

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The bill was amended to specify that the legislation would ban mRNA vaccines “for infectious diseases" and not “gene therapy products used to treat cancers or genetic disorders.” 

Supporters had previously testified that the vaccines caused more harm than good.  

“[mRNA vaccines are] the most destructive and lethal medical products that have ever been used in medical history,” Dr. Christine Drivdahl-Smith, a family physician in Miles City, told the committee earlier this month. 

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[Stiddle Mump]

1 hour ago, Red Phoenix said:

Great News > A bill that would ban the use of mRNA vaccines, including for Covid-19, is on its way to the House floor after passing out of committee in a party-line vote Wednesday.  

 

Source: https://dailyinterlake.com/news/2025/feb/14/bill-to-ban-mrna-vaccines-passes-out-of-house-committee/

 

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Some excerpts from the article: 

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The bill deems the technology, which was employed to create the Covid-19 vaccines, a hazard. 

...

The bill was amended to specify that the legislation would ban mRNA vaccines “for infectious diseases" and not “gene therapy products used to treat cancers or genetic disorders.” 

Supporters had previously testified that the vaccines caused more harm than good.  

“[mRNA vaccines are] the most destructive and lethal medical products that have ever been used in medical history,” Dr. Christine Drivdahl-Smith, a family physician in Miles City, told the committee earlier this month. 

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It's good news all right. Too late for the poor souls who took the shot. But at least they might be spared more 'boosters'.

 

They only got approval for mRNA covid emergency use because there were big players denouncing alternative treatments.

 

Some representatives will becoming under immense pressure from you know WHO.

 

Keeping them crossed.

 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

Another totally misleading article from the reliable king of COVID nonsense posts here.

 

The "USA" reference and "House committee" references in the OP headline would lead most readers to assume the cited news report is about the U.S. House of Representatives and federal legislation. It IS NOT!

 

The cited article is from a small, obscure newspaper in the U.S. state of Montana, based in that great urban metropolis of  Kalispell, Montana, pop. about 25,000, and pertains to legislation pending there in Montana state's House of Representatives -- none of which is made clear in the OP post.

 

https://www.billtrack50.com/billdetail/1752986

 

MT HB371

Ban mRNA vaccinations in Montana for humans

"Introduced Session
 

2025 Regular Session

Bill Summary

AN ACT ENTITLED: “AN ACT PROHIBITING THE ADMINISTRATION OF GENE-BASED VACCINES FOR INFECTIOUS DISEASES INTO HUMANS IN THE STATE OF MONTANA; PROVIDING A DEFINITION; AND PROVIDING A PENALTY.

 

Last Action

(H) Committee Report--Bill Passed as Amended (H) Judiciary (on 02/12/2025)"

 

Of course, nowhere in the OP post, nor in the newspaper article it links to, do either of them say that the legislation is only STATE legislation and would only apply, if passed, to Montana...

 

But hey, when you're on a nonsense anti-vax crusade, the actual facts and reality of things take a distant back seat.
 

And, the state rep. who sponsored the bill in question certainly has a good background to be legislating on medical and public health issues:

 

"Greg Kmetz was born in Cheyenne, Wyoming, and lives in Miles City, Montana. Kmetz earned a bachelor's degree in industrial education from the University of Wyoming. His career experience includes owning his own welding and machine shop and working as a welding instructor. [emphasis added]

 

https://ballotpedia.org/Greg_Kmetz

 

[scottiejohn]

20 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

But hey, when you're on a nonsense anti-vax crusade, the actual facts and reality of things take a distant back seat.

The word "fact" is a banned four letter word to the Tin Foil Hatted brigade!

[Stiddle Mump]

54 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

The word "fact" is a banned four letter word to the Tin Foil Hatted brigade!

I prefer 'truth'.

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

The same welder guy above who brought Montana his COVID vaccination bill was the author of a prior piece of Montana state legislation that would have banned people who had received a COVID vaccine or been diagnosed with Long COVID from donating blood in the state.

 

That bill by the same state Rep. Greg Kmetz failed even in the overwhelmingly Republican Montana state legislature two years ago, with opponents pointing out that it would have decimated the available blood supplies in Montana.  So it goes in Montana:

 

Montana Weirdos Fail To Ban Vaccinated People From Donating Blood

There is literally a blood shortage right now

Mar 03, 2023

 

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"It went so far in Montana that Republican lawmakers actually tried to pass a law barring people who have had the COVID-19 vaccine from giving blood, based entirely on a bunch of sad, made-up nonsense about the vaccine being dangerous and people who have it spreading murderous "spike proteins" that can harm the brilliant "purebloods" who wisely refused to get the "clot shot," as they call it.

 

House Bill 645 would have made it a misdemeanor with a $500 fine for a vaccinated person to donate blood or for any donation center to accept the blood of a vaccinated person. It also would have banned donations from people diagnosed with long COVID, an interesting choice given that I am pretty sure the anti-vax people do not believe that long COVID is a thing. ...

 

The bill, had it been enacted, would have reduced the blood supply in the state by 80 percent — which would be a pretty terrible plan considering that there is also a national blood shortage right now. It means that people would die. Lots and lots of people.

 

https://www.wonkette.com/p/montana-anti-vax-blood-donation

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greg_Kmetz

 

 

[scottiejohn]

2 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

I prefer 'truth'.

Then try using it as it!

As it is a five letter word it is allowed by your Tin Foil hatted brigade!

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

16 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

I prefer 'truth'.

 

Montana Weirdos Fail To Ban Vaccinated People From Donating Blood

"based entirely on a bunch of sad, made-up nonsense about the vaccine"

 

https://www.wonkette.com/p/montana-anti-vax-blood-donation

 

[Stiddle Mump]

  15 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

Then try using it as it!

As it is a five letter word it is allowed by your Tin Foil hatted brigade!

 

+++++

 

A good deal of what we/you/anyone is told has bees 'scientifically settled', is on 'fact'; bunkum. Simply made up by white-coats. 

 

Can't you see Scottie, that you ae being duped, hoodwinked and hoaxed all at the same time? What is it that makes you such a believer in utter nonsense?

 

Nature has the answers we seek. A walk through the forest would do some people the world of good. Especially the white-coats.

 

 

[Stiddle Mump]

16 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

Then try using it as it!

As it is a five letter word it is allowed by your Tin Foil hatted brigade!

 

Please refer to my earlier post.

[TedG]

3 hours ago, Red Phoenix said:

Great News > A bill that would ban the use of mRNA vaccines, including for Covid-19, is on its way to the House floor after passing out of committee in a party-line vote Wednesday.  

 

Source: https://dailyinterlake.com/news/2025/feb/14/bill-to-ban-mrna-vaccines-passes-out-of-house-committee/

 

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Some excerpts from the article: 

... 

The bill deems the technology, which was employed to create the Covid-19 vaccines, a hazard. 

...

The bill was amended to specify that the legislation would ban mRNA vaccines “for infectious diseases" and not “gene therapy products used to treat cancers or genetic disorders.” 

Supporters had previously testified that the vaccines caused more harm than good.  

“[mRNA vaccines are] the most destructive and lethal medical products that have ever been used in medical history,” Dr. Christine Drivdahl-Smith, a family physician in Miles City, told the committee earlier this month. 

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This is a stupid idea, and will die in the Senate. 

[connda]

I'm not anti-mRNA therapy, but it needs massive research, study, and long-term trials before being approved for human or animal use. Nor am I anti-mRNA vaccinations, but the same as with gene therapy and they need to be proven "safe and effective" as opposed to using that phrase as a propaganda slogan as is still being done.

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

COVID vaccination saved more than 5,000 US lives in 7 months in 2023-24, CDC estimates

February 8, 2025

 

COVID-19 vaccination averted more than 5,000 US in-hospital deaths, 13,000 intensive care unit (ICU) admissions, and 68,000 hospitalizations in 7 months in 2023-2024, researchers from the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) estimated late last week in Vaccine, although with considerable uncertainty.

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The averted COVID-linked burden was highest in adults aged 65 years and older (hospitalizations averted, 57,665 [95% UI, 35,442 to 84,006]; ICU admissions averted, 10,878 [95% UI, 3,104 to 21,591]; and 4,779 [95% UI, 0 to 13,132) in-hospital deaths averted. 

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More vaccinations would further cut poor outcomes

Older adults had the highest averted burden "due to higher COVID-19-associated hospitalization rates in adults aged 65 years or older compared to other age groups; adults aged 65 years or older accounted for between 80% and 90% of the averted COVID-19- associated hospitalizations, ICU admissions, and in-hospital deaths," the researchers wrote.

 

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/covid-19/covid-vaccination-saved-more-5000-us-lives-7-months-2023-24-cdc-estimates

 

 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

Per the U.S. CDC's COVID vaccines website as of January 2025:

Importance of staying up to date

• Getting the 2024–2025 COVID-19 vaccine is important because:
  • Protection from the COVID-19 vaccine decreases with time.
  • Immunity after COVID-19 infection decreases with time.
  • COVID-19 vaccines are updated to give you the best protection from the currently circulating strains.

• Getting the 2024–2025 COVID-19 vaccine is especially important if you:
  • Never received a COVID-19 vaccine
  • Are ages 65 years and older
  • Are at high risk for severe COVID-19
  • Are living in a long-term care facility
  • Are pregnant, breastfeeding, trying to get pregnant, or might become pregnant in the future.

Keep in mind

Getting a COVID-19 vaccine is a safer, more reliable way to build protection than getting sick with COVID-19."

 

https://www.cdc.gov/covid/vaccines/stay-up-to-date.html

 

[Ben Zioner]

Morons.

[GammaGlobulin]

NITWITS.

And next.

Guam will be sinking.

[save the frogs]

History of mRNA vaccines from AI:

 

Messenger RNA (mRNA) vaccines have been tested in mice and humans for decades. The first mRNA flu vaccine was tested in mice in the 1990s, and the first mRNA vaccines for rabies were tested in humans in 2013. 

 

History of mRNA vaccines

• Discovery: mRNA was discovered in the early 1960s. 
   
• Research: Research into how to deliver mRNA into cells began in the 1970s. 
   
• Early research: Early research was marked by enthusiasm for the technology but also some technical challenges. 
   
• Cancer research: mRNA has also been used in cancer research to trigger the immune system to target specific cancer cells. 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

The anti-vax "weirdos" here are a very "weird" lot...

 

The same ones who often rail against COVID vaccines do so yammering about their supposed potential to alter people's DNA, a made-up bogus claim that has been widely debunked. For example:

No, COVID-19 vaccines aren’t gene therapy

https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-covid-vaccines-gene-therapy-806280914802

 

And yet in Kmetz's latest Montana legislation, it would specifically ALLOW for OTHER kinds of actual, real gene-altering therapies....  Can these guys please make up their minds!!!

 

"Notably, the bill explicitly excludes gene therapy products used to treat cancer or genetic disorders from its definition of prohibited vaccines."

 

https://www.billtrack50.com/billdetail/1752986

 

[scottiejohn]

37 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

A walk through the forest would do some people the world of good

Not if you were anywhere near or in it!

 

Please give your rants a a rest and stop flogging a dead horse.

All you are doing is preaching your tin foil Hat crap back to yourself!

Nobody is interested in your delusional world!

[scottiejohn]

38 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

 

Please refer to my earlier post.

No thanks as they are all full of your mis-information!

[Stiddle Mump]

4 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

Not if you were anywhere near or in it!

 

Please give your rants a a rest and stop flogging a dead horse.

All you are doing is preaching your tin foil Hat crap back to yourself!

Nobody is interested in your delusional world!

If I can't get you to think different;y Scottie, all I have to say is; 'sorry'.

[scottiejohn]

10 hours ago, Stiddle Mump said:

 

Please refer to my earlier post.

There is no point in referring to any of your posts if I am looking for for meaningful or useful  information.  

[Red Phoenix]

13 hours ago, Red Phoenix said:

Great News > A bill that would ban the use of mRNA vaccines, including for Covid-19, is on its way to the House floor after passing out of committee in a party-line vote Wednesday.  

 

Source: https://dailyinterlake.com/news/2025/feb/14/bill-to-ban-mrna-vaccines-passes-out-of-house-committee/

 

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Yes, you had to actually read the article to understand that the bill to ban the use of mRNA vaccines was proposed to the MONTANA House.  

I thought that it was pretty obvious that it referred to a US State, instead of the USA as a whole.  If the latter would have been the case, that would have been front-page news on all media.  

But it would be absolutely awesome when the Bill would pass in Montana, creating a precedent for other US states and initiating a domino effect until all stones have fallen.  Florida is of course already on the brink, with its Surgeon General Joe Ladapo, using every occasion to state the official Florida stance that uptake of mRNA vaccines is not encouraged.  Banning them at this moment would probably be a step too early, as Florida also endorses its citizens 'right of choice'.  

Let the mRNA vax-enthusiasts boost themselves to an early grave if that is their choice... 

 

[JimHuaHin]

Why not ban all new and experimental medical treatments?

 

And ban AI while you are at it?

 

Seems some people do not like scientific advances, and wish to live in the Stone Age.

 

Many medical technologies may have adverse side-effects, even "simple" surgeries.

 

It is called iatrogenesis - read Ivan Illich's 1974 book "Medical Nemesis".

[Red Phoenix]

IDAHO > 1st US health agency where board voted to defund the Covid jab and its promotion

 

That thread didn't get as much traction as it was launched in the pre Free Speech area on AseanNow, but it clearly indicates that resistance to the Covid jabs is slowly but steadily making progress.  The confirmation of RFK jr this week as Health Secretary of course being a giant step forward.

 

 

[scottiejohn]

3 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

but it clearly indicates that resistance to the Covid jabs is slowly but steadily making progress.  The confirmation of RFK jr this week as Health Secretary of course being a giant step forward.

The confirmation of RFK jr this week as Health Secretary of course being a giant step forward backwords.

[scottiejohn]

11 hours ago, Stiddle Mump said:

If I can't get you to think different;y Scottie, all I have to say is; 'sorry'.

Are you saying that I should "think like you"?

If so NO THANKS as I have no intentions of becoming a brain washed tin foil hat wearing idiot!

[Stiddle Mump]

39 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

Are you saying that I should "think like you"?

If so NO THANKS as I have no intentions of becoming a brain washed tin foil hat wearing idiot!

The joke section needs your humour Scottie. You are wasted here.

[scottiejohn]

3 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

The joke section needs your humour Scottie. You are wasted here.

As are you and your posts!

[dinsdale]

11 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

Per the U.S. CDC's COVID vaccines website as of January 2025:

Importance of staying up to date

• Getting the 2024–2025 COVID-19 vaccine is important because:
  • Protection from the COVID-19 vaccine decreases with time.
  • Immunity after COVID-19 infection decreases with time.
  • COVID-19 vaccines are updated to give you the best protection from the currently circulating strains.

• Getting the 2024–2025 COVID-19 vaccine is especially important if you:
  • Never received a COVID-19 vaccine
  • Are ages 65 years and older
  • Are at high risk for severe COVID-19
  • Are living in a long-term care facility
  • Are pregnant, breastfeeding, trying to get pregnant, or might become pregnant in the future.

Keep in mind

Getting a COVID-19 vaccine is a safer, more reliable way to build protection than getting sick with COVID-19."

 

https://www.cdc.gov/covid/vaccines/stay-up-to-date.html

 

You simply just continue to push the CDC line with absolute faith. Why do people at very, very little risk of dying from the virus that escaped from the lab (oooops! Conspiracy theory) need to take the jab? Babies, children, teenagers, healthy people, people with no severe comorbidities. Why? Most countries now DO NOT recommend the jab for people outside of a very narrow group of those at risk. Fact is there will be an investigation into this and I say good. Bring it on.