Trump insider: "Zelensky's 'Best Bet' is to Leave for France 'Immediately'"

[connda]

Time for the Zelinsky's to catch the last train out of Dodge Kiev.  The writing is on the wall.  The other option?  Look up Christmas day on Romania in 1989.

 

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/politics/government/zelensky-s-best-bet-is-to-leave-for-france-immediately-warns-trump-insider/ar-AA1zxFz0

[JimHuaHin]

Or ... Trump and Vance could be placed on a SpaceX rocket headed to Mars, or the Sun?

[thaibeachlovers]

7 hours ago, blaze master said:

 

Are you not able to spell trumps name correctly as per forum rules.

 

He's been doing so for some time.

[Captain Flack]

@MicroB I have removed your post for deliberate misspelling names. I gave you a public notice last time, after editing your post, that future posts will just be removed if you continue the same misspelling.

[pegman]

But, but, but whatever happened to Putin going down with multiple strokes, heart attacks, Parkinson's disease, coups, running out of tanks, men, artillery shells and you name it?????? Reality is if and when Zelensky leaves Kyiv it will much more likely be to Florida or Italy where he's reported {by Seymour Hersh} to have villas or Cyprus where his loot is banked. 

[GammaGlobulin]

On 2/22/2025 at 10:15 AM, connda said:

Time for the Zelinsky's to catch the last train out

 

Why allow him to catch a train when...

Would it not be far better to have him...just...

Run out on a rail?

 

 

Ouch!

 

Trump is a real comedian.

 

 

[thaibeachlovers]

21 hours ago, JimHuaHin said:

Or ... Trump and Vance could be placed on a SpaceX rocket headed to Mars, or the Sun?

Thank you for your oh so eloquent contribution to the discussion. Keep 'em coming as we need some comedy moments on here.

[thaibeachlovers]

1 hour ago, pegman said:

But, but, but whatever happened to Putin going down with multiple strokes, heart attacks, Parkinson's disease, coups, running out of tanks, men, artillery shells and you name it?????? Reality is if and when Zelensky leaves Kyiv it will much more likely be to Florida or Italy where he's reported {by Seymour Hersh} to have villas or Cyprus where his loot is banked. 

Lot of posters been having wet dreams past 3 years. A rude wakening awaits them.

[thaibeachlovers]

On 2/22/2025 at 4:15 PM, connda said:

Time for the Zelinsky's to catch the last train out of Dodge Kiev.  The writing is on the wall.  The other option?  Look up Christmas day on Romania in 1989.

 

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/politics/government/zelensky-s-best-bet-is-to-leave-for-france-immediately-warns-trump-insider/ar-AA1zxFz0

I'd have thought it would be to Argentina.

[Woke to Sounds]

Zelenskyy the actor/comedian will be okay in the end (they always are)  but the Ukrainian people will suffer, again.

[fondue zoo]

What is the take on him recently stating he would remove himself from the presidency, if it meant continued support and security for the country against Russia?

 

[Jim Blue]

Well actually perhaps someone means what he says ......for a change .

[bkk6060]

DOGE should do a deep dive into the 300 billion they got.  They really spent all that money? On what?

[pegman]

49 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Lot of posters been having wet dreams past 3 years. A rude wakening awaits them.

Don't blame them they are just classic examples of "The Herd" as described by Nietzsche. The last time we witnessed a narrative take hold like this, propagated by Western intelligence agencies and their propaganda media, was the whole WMD in Iraq fiasco. There really is no excuse for it though this time. I follow a half dozen frontline mapping sites each day, such as Weeb Union on the Facebook, which show what is actually taking place geo-location video. While "The Herd" get told what they want to hear from the likes of Murdoch and former game show host A. Cooper.

[thaibeachlovers]

3 hours ago, pegman said:

Don't blame them they are just classic examples of "The Herd" as described by Nietzsche. The last time we witnessed a narrative take hold like this, propagated by Western intelligence agencies and their propaganda media, was the whole WMD in Iraq fiasco. There really is no excuse for it though this time. I follow a half dozen frontline mapping sites each day, such as Weeb Union on the Facebook, which show what is actually taking place geo-location video. While "The Herd" get told what they want to hear from the likes of Murdoch and former game show host A. Cooper.

Sheeple only do what they are told. If it isn't promoted by an "influencer" on social media, they ignore it.

Does that explain why they are all fixated about Ukraine and say zero about Sudan, or the Congo, both of which are worse in human terms than a spat in Eastern Europe.

[3NUMBAS]

Europe now sees trump and Putin the same,,USA heading into isolation which is what orange man baby wants

[Sir Dude]

Talk about inconsistant and strange, but Trump says that Israel has a total right to defend itself against Muslim aggression (which I agree with), but somehow Ukraine doesn't... the optics are bad on this one.

Best thing Europe can do is to man up and make itself militarily very strong, and then it can just tell everyone to take a running jump off the nearest cliff, rather like Russia, China, and the US does. If you are militarily strong you can do what you want and gives your country massive diplomatic leverage... a lesson Europe has forgotten. Time to wake up Europe.

[thaibeachlovers]

12 hours ago, Sir Dude said:

Best thing Europe can do is to man up and make itself militarily very strong,

Good in principle, but Euroland is broke, and too soft. The glory days of BAOR are long gone. Best to make lots of nukes and dream of the "good old days".

[Dcheech]

On 2/24/2025 at 5:07 AM, thaibeachlovers said:

Lot of posters been having wet dreams past 3 years.

 

On 2/24/2025 at 6:07 AM, pegman said:

Don't blame them they are just classic examples of "The Herd" as described by Nietzsche. The last time we witnessed a narrative take hold like this, propagated by Western intelligence agencies and their propaganda media, was the whole WMD in Iraq fiasco.

Rewriting history this morning?     what fun.  The WMD Desert Iraqi adventure trip was propagated by Fox News, right wing talkers, Rush etc. a Republican president & their conservative sheep, in lock step. The very people cheering for Trump & Putin today & screaming about WOKE, MSM, Deep State, & crying about Zelensky bagging cash. Recognize who these people are ... have you looked in a mirror lately? 

 Amazing how far they have come in twenty years. Now they support an ex KGB/Stassi agent dictator, & in the US, they are dismantling democracy. Showing their true colors, but ones that have always been there. 

[JimHuaHin]

Zelinsky is not a coward; Trump is.

[thaibeachlovers]

3 hours ago, JimHuaHin said:

Zelinsky is not a coward; Trump is.

How many battles has Zelensky been in then? Must be a few if he's so brave. Wearing that silly cos play uniform doesn't imbue him with valour.

[Jingthing]

Just now, thaibeachlovers said:

How many battles has Zelensky been in then? Must be a few if he's so brave. Wearing that silly cos play uniform doesn't imbue him with valour.

Why exactly do you hate Zelinsky so much? It's weird.

[altayvan]

On 2/24/2025 at 5:58 AM, Jim Blue said:

Well actually perhaps someone means what he says ......for a change .

U mean trumpie 

[altayvan]

19 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

How many battles has Zelensky been in then? Must be a few if he's so brave. Wearing that silly cos play uniform doesn't imbue him with valour.

Maybe make some silly "stolen valor" videos as he enters into fights with real veterans while on a city bus

[steven100]

so many on here are so dumb. You think Zelensky just got a suitcase full of cash each time,  oh here' here's 20billion ...    

The money given to Ukraine by the US is in arms shipments, military supplies, ammunitions',  and so on .... it's not cash given to someone in Ukraine,  it's done through inventory supplies & PO's  ( purchase orders )

 

 Secondly,   I think Zelensky has done an excellent job so far with leading a country through a 3 year war,  he's obviously been under enormous pressure throughout,  and I'm sure he's worked long hours liaison with other dignitaries from abroad. 

 

No one member on here could even be his shadow or hold a candle to him so cut the crap on putting him down.

 

Trump trash on the other hand has decided to lie and do a 360 degree turn on US foreign policy and start kissing Putin butt,   what a pathetic imbecile he's turned out to be.   

[MicroB]

The President is denying he ever called Zelensky a "dictator" during live questions with the UK Prime Minister. I would assume then that he has been deliberately misrepresented by Russophiles and turncoats in his circle, who seek to sew division and propagate Putin's efforts to destablilise the free world. So I am sure they will soon be identified and removed from positions of influence.

 

His supporters on this forum who supported the ridiculous contention by these traitors that the Ukrainian President is a dictator, might want to reconsider their position or support for the 47th US President.

[MicroB]

On 2/26/2025 at 12:32 AM, Dcheech said:

 

The WMD Desert Iraqi adventure trip

 

It was a lot more complex than people would suppose.  There is not doubt Iraq had a pretty advanced chemical and biological capability. I attended briefings about what the British military knew abut Halabja. It was sobering. The British had tracked Iraqi Air Force sorties over the town, and there were many. They knew the Russian aircraft lacked the ability to carry enough of the type of munition that was being dropped, so the Iraqis had to switch to old ex-RAF Hawker Hunters. They knew the exact time the bombing runs were carried out. From studying the filmed corpses and the time stamps of Iranian journalist's on the scene videos, they quite quickly came to a presumptive determination that Sarin and VX figuredmin the mix (because of the time that elapsed between the attack and unprotected Iranians entering the town).

 

Earlier I worked in the same university department in the UK where British police turned up to take a number of Iraqis into custody in 1990. They were microbiology students with strong research interests in aflatoxin, a really potent class of fungal nerve toxins. The head of the Iraqi programme trained at East Anglia, which has a particularly strong plant protein department, and close links with a Food Research Institute, which I know from first hand experience, had some interesting knowhow.

 

Post Desert Storm, there were Congressional inquiries into so-called Gulf War Syndrome, whcich I suspect was a combination of the results of exposure to untested vaccines and some pretty terrible environmental conditions in Kuwaut. I was struck by the account of members of a Marine unit who were specialist CBRN operators. As the Iraqi Army collapsed, they left behind ammo dumps. These two operators testified coming across one such site, that they reported as well ordered. They knew it was well ordered because it had been set up just the same way as the US military do. That similarity allowed them to identify so-called special munitions, likely chemical rounds, 155mm variety.

 

15 years on, the thing that occupied the Western intelligence was being blindsided again. Iraq had a CBRN capability, but did it have a CBRN readiness.  Personally,  I think Saddam never gave them up, but he hid them, expecting that one day the Americans would just leave. The best aircraft he had, he didn't use to try and defend Iraqi skies or destroy American armour.They flew to Iran or were buried, to fight another day. The Arab dictator needed a symbolically powerful military, not really toprotect from external threats but to protect from internal threats

 

I'm of the mind the capbility is buried, those who buried it are long dead. 120 years after ww1, the British and Americans are still finding Lewisite caches. Someone knew where they were stored, the paperwork has gone. eg a big dump was found in Florida, along with a radioactive lab, when clearing a site for new housing. For the radioactive lab, they had to find some old boys from a nursing home to explain what had happened (a big spill in the 50s, so the building was evacuated, shuttered and forgotten about). We will eventually find the stuff, but long after I'm dead.