Is Trump a Russian Asset, Controlled by Putin

[ExpatOilWorker]

[Hellfire]

On 3/2/2025 at 12:48 PM, frank83628 said:

Only in those fools that believe everything the legacy media tells them.

What has Putin ever down that has effected your life?

You know for sure whose agent Trump is when forum’s Putin bots start to defend him

[Brian J]

Trump is a dirty old man with questionable tastes and zero morals. Allowing him to be rained upon by Russian assets and whole thing filmed was gift from heaven for Venal Vlad.

Russia is a political house of cards and when Vlad falls of the perch his kleptocracy will go up in flames.

The mid terms in USa in 2 years will render Trump a lame duck and he will spend his final years in power looking at old videos of him and Epstein mauling jail bait

[frank83628]

33 minutes ago, Hellfire said:

You know for sure whose agent Trump is when forum’s Putin bots start to defend him

Will you be changing you virtue signalling profile to a Taiwanese flag after Ukraine is over?

[frank83628]

11 minutes ago, Brian J said:

Trump is a dirty old man with questionable tastes and zero morals. Allowing him to be rained upon by Russian assets and whole thing filmed was gift from heaven for Venal Vlad.

Russia is a political house of cards and when Vlad falls of the perch his kleptocracy will go up in flames.

The mid terms in USa in 2 years will render Trump a lame duck and he will spend his final years in power looking at old videos of him and Epstein mauling jail bait

Yeah right

[frank83628]

6 hours ago, Watawattana said:

I must admit to not have bothered to read all the bickering so I may have missed something in this thread, but might this be virtually nothing to do with politics (rightist, leftist, racist or communist) and more to do with a business deal?  Lots of minerals in Ukraine apparently, and Trump & Putin are carving up the spoils?  No evidence, just my guess.

When has America ever actually done something for the people of a country, there is always  financial inventive, Clinton said in the beginning drawing out the war as long as possible would be a good why to ruin Russias ecomony.Biden inc threw billions aid to indebt Ukraine so they could take the minerals as payment,Lindsey Graham said thelat they don't want the minerals (12t) going to Putin or China. Trump has just brought the while thing into the open

[thaibeachlovers]

On 3/2/2025 at 8:50 PM, ExpatOilWorker said:

Sad.

[thaibeachlovers]

No.

[SMIAI]

I would like to remind you of the words of Nikita Sergeyevich Khrushchev:

 

"We will take America without firing a shot. We do not have to invade the U.S. We will destroy you from within"

 

He bragged about manipulating the 1960 presidential election, as he wanted JFK to win, as he thought he would be a weaker adversary than Nixon.

 

He even claimed to have told JFK, "You know, Mr Kennedy, we voted for you"

Part of Khrushchev's tactics were to spread conspiracy theories and smear campaigns against foreign leaders and their integrity in order to unravel rival societies.

 

What we see here is the result. Putin is schooled in these tactics and we see a lot of that even on this forum. Perpetuating lies using denials, what about isms, distraction, re-directing...

 

We rarely see any serious discussion here. Mainly Trolls.

[thaibeachlovers]

20 minutes ago, SMIAI said:

I would like to remind you of the words of Nikita Sergeyevich Khrushchev:

 

"We will take America without firing a shot. We do not have to invade the U.S. We will destroy you from within"

 

He bragged about manipulating the 1960 presidential election, as he wanted JFK to win, as he thought he would be a weaker adversary than Nixon.

 

He even claimed to have told JFK, "You know, Mr Kennedy, we voted for you"

Part of Khrushchev's tactics were to spread conspiracy theories and smear campaigns against foreign leaders and their integrity in order to unravel rival societies.

 

What we see here is the result. Putin is schooled in these tactics and we see a lot of that even on this forum. Perpetuating lies using denials, what about isms, distraction, re-directing...

 

We rarely see any serious discussion here. Mainly Trolls.

The sad thing is that current western leaders are such a shower that we believe anything bad about them.

We haven't had decent leaders for decades.

[thaibeachlovers]

22 hours ago, Brian J said:

Trump is a dirty old man with questionable tastes and zero morals. Allowing him to be rained upon by Russian assets and whole thing filmed was gift from heaven for Venal Vlad.

Russia is a political house of cards and when Vlad falls of the perch his kleptocracy will go up in flames.

The mid terms in USa in 2 years will render Trump a lame duck and he will spend his final years in power looking at old videos of him and Epstein mauling jail bait

Prove that isn't a fake photo and he actually said that. It's just the sort of <deleted> that anti Trumpers make up. An AI could easily substitute her head for her mothers.

 

IMO it's just BS, and the message is fake. If that was true it would have come out during the election- it didn't. Just more bs by Trump haters.

[thaibeachlovers]

23 hours ago, Hellfire said:

You know for sure whose agent Trump is when forum’s Putin bots start to defend him

As opposed to the Dem's forum bots attacking him with made up bs.

[ExpatOilWorker]

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Sad.

But very likely....

[Yellowtail]

13 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Prove that isn't a fake photo and he actually said that. It's just the sort of <deleted> that anti Trumpers make up. An AI could easily substitute her head for her mothers.

 

IMO it's just BS, and the message is fake. If that was true it would have come out during the election- it didn't. Just more bs by Trump haters.

Nothing wrong with the photo, real or otherwise. That could be any father and daughter. 

 

Remember the left thought it was great that Biden was showering with his daughter. 

 

What a bunch of creeps the left are. 

[SMIAI]

31 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

The sad thing is that current western leaders are such a shower that we believe anything bad about them.

We haven't had decent leaders for decades.

 

Mind control.. 

Bitter old men posting their hatred for their life and circumstances are the useful fools.

The common theme is the hatred. 

[SMIAI]

33 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Prove that isn't a fake photo and he actually said that. It's just the sort of <deleted> that anti Trumpers make up. An AI could easily substitute her head for her mothers.

 

IMO it's just BS, and the message is fake. If that was true it would have come out during the election- it didn't. Just more bs by Trump haters.

 

He DID say this:

 

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When asked how he would react if Ivanka, a former teen model, posed for Playboy, Trump replied, "It would be really disappointing — not really — but it would depend on what's inside the magazine."

He added: "I don't think Ivanka would do that, although she does have a very nice figure. I've said if Ivanka weren't my daughter, perhaps I'd be dating her."

“Isn’t that terrible? How terrible? Is that terrible?”

 

I guess when you've no moral compass yourself, this kind of behaviour would seem harmless to you.

When you buy your wives and they don't really love you, I guess there is no real love within the family either. Dysfunctional.

 

[SMIAI]

18 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Nothing wrong with the photo, real or otherwise. That could be any father and daughter. 

 

Remember the left thought it was great that Biden was showering with his daughter. 

 

What a bunch of creeps the left are. 

 

Deflection and whatabout ism. The creep in this case, is Trump. How much are they paying you?

[josephbloggs]

13 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Nothing wrong with the photo, real or otherwise. That could be any father and daughter. 

 

Remember the left thought it was great that Biden was showering with his daughter. 

 

What a bunch of creeps the left are. 

Seriously, what a moronic accusation to make against all people who are liberal leaning.

Just because I think Trump is absolutely horrendous it doesn't mean I think people should be showering with grown up daughters. Please show any single post that backs up your slander, especially that "we" thought it was "great". 

And I know you like to keep trotting out this showering thing. How old was she when it happened?

[Yellowtail]

4 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

Seriously, what a moronic accusation to make against all people who are liberal leaning.

I'm a liberal. I said the left. 

4 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

Just because I think Trump is absolutely horrendous it doesn't mean I think people should be showering with grown up daughters. Please show any single post that backs up your slander, especially that "we" thought it was "great". 

I said the left. 

4 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

And I know you like to keep trotting out this showering thing. How old was she when it happened?

What difference does is make how old she was, did you want to make excuses for it? 

[josephbloggs]

3 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

I'm a liberal. I said the left. 

I said the left. 

Playing semantics, not even backing up your own accusation. So you stick with your claim that people on the left all think it's fine to shower with (possibly grown up) daughters. Do you?

 

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What difference does is make how old she was, did you want to make excuses for it? 

I ask because of course it makes a difference. If she was 18 months old it would be fine, if she was 13 it absolutely would not be fine.

You trot this showering stuff out all the time so you must know about it. How old was she?

[Yellowtail]

1 minute ago, josephbloggs said:

Playing semantics, not even backing up your own accusation. So you stick with your claim that people on the left all think it's fine to shower with (possibly grown up) daughters. Do you?

Now you are just flat out lying. What I said was: "Remember the left thought it was great that Biden was showering with his daughter." 

 

Everyone knows it's inappropriate, but to support Biden they pretended it was okay. 

 

1 minute ago, josephbloggs said:

I ask because of course it makes a difference. If she was 18 months old it would be fine, if she was 13 it absolutely would not be fine.

She was old enough to remember it, and to write about it, and to say she thought it went on too long. 

 

Yet here you are making excuses for it. 

1 minute ago, josephbloggs said:

You trot this showering stuff out all the time so you must know about it. How old was she?

 

No, I don't "trot this showering stuff out all the time", I trot it out when some creepy leftist falsely claims Trump is some kind of pedophile, just to show the hypocrisy of the left, and apparently you. 

[ExpatOilWorker]

[Yellowtail]

All the left has are jokes, memes, name-calling and conspiracy theories about Trump being a Russian asset, even though after eight years of lawfare they have not been able to prove a bit of it. 

 

Meanwhile at the grownups table: 

 

"Zelensky vows to 'make things right' with Trump and negotiate peace" 

 

Zelensky vows to 'make things right' with Trump and negotiate peace

[ExpatOilWorker]

45 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

All the left has are jokes, memes, name-calling and conspiracy theories about Trump being a Russian asset, even though after eight years of lawfare they have not been able to prove a bit of it. 

 

Meanwhile at the grownups table: 

 

"Zelensky vows to 'make things right' with Trump and negotiate peace" 

 

Zelensky vows to 'make things right' with Trump and negotiate peace

You spelled his name wrong, it is tRUmp  🙄.

[Stocky]

7 hours ago, ExpatOilWorker said:

But very likely....

 

Yes, if you pose the following question to GPT Chat, Perplexity et. al. the response you get is spookily similar to current reality.

 

Question: If the US President was in fact a Russian government asset what would be a subtle action they could take to stall the US economy?

 

GPT Chat suggests:

 

If the US President were covertly acting as a Russian government asset, subtle actions to stall the US economy could be designed to be indirect, ensuring that they don't draw attention while still causing harm over time. Here are a few possibilities:

 

1) Weakening Trade Relationships:

Subtly undermining trade agreements or international partnerships could reduce the flow of goods and services, destabilizing the economy. For example, imposing tariffs or pushing for trade war escalation with key partners without clear rationale could have long-term negative effects.

 

2) Fueling Uncertainty in Financial Markets:

Encouraging uncertainty in the financial system—whether by sowing doubts about economic stability or questioning the credibility of financial institutions—could lead to market volatility. This could manifest in mixed signals about the dollar, stock market fluctuations, or the credibility of major financial institutions.

 

3) Hindering Energy Policy:

Given Russia's global interests in energy markets, a subtle disruption of the US energy policy—whether by impeding clean energy initiatives, delaying key infrastructure projects, or reducing energy independence—could lead to increased energy prices and economic strain, particularly with fluctuating oil and gas costs.

 

4) Discouraging Immigration or Talent Retention:

Policies that slow immigration or make the US less attractive for skilled professionals could harm sectors like technology, science, and manufacturing, stalling innovation and growth. This would have a long-term dampening effect on economic productivity.

 

5) Inaction on Debt and Fiscal Policy:

Taking minimal action on addressing the national debt, government spending, and the fiscal deficit, leading to prolonged uncertainty about future budgetary policies. This could result in higher borrowing costs or a downgrade in credit ratings, impacting the broader economy.

 

6) Weakening Diplomacy with Allies:

Deteriorating relationships with key US allies, especially in Europe or Asia, could lead to fragmented global alliances, weakening the US's position in international trade and diplomacy, causing uncertainty and potential economic isolation.

 

7) Undermining Regulatory Bodies:

Subtly eroding the effectiveness of financial regulatory bodies like the SEC (Securities and Exchange Commission) or the Federal Reserve through underfunding or obstructing appointments could lead to mismanagement in critical areas like banking, interest rates, or financial oversight.

 

In all these cases, the goal would be to create an economic environment that fosters instability and reduces confidence without directly pointing to malicious intent, allowing the actions to be interpreted as part of broader policy shifts rather than sabotage.