Starmer Urges Zelensky to Reconcile with Trump, but Tensions Remain High

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Sir Keir Starmer attempted to mediate the escalating tensions between Volodymyr Zelensky and Donald Trump following their fiery confrontation in the Oval Office. After the public fallout, which saw Trump accusing Zelensky of "gambling with World War Three" and being "disrespectful" to America before ejecting the Ukrainian delegation from the White House, the UK Prime Minister reached out in an effort to mend relations.  

 

It has emerged that later that evening, Starmer personally called Zelensky, urging him to return to the White House and repair the strained relationship with Trump. He then made a separate call to Trump in an attempt to ease tensions. However, his peacemaking efforts were unsuccessful, as American officials conveyed that the situation remained too volatile for any immediate return to negotiations.  

 

Zelensky is now facing mounting pressure from European leaders to make amends with Trump. NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte also advised the Ukrainian president to seek a rapprochement. "I said: I think you have to find a way, dear Volodymyr, to restore your relationship with Donald Trump and the American administration. That is important going forward," Rutte told the BBC. He reminded Zelensky that it was Trump who provided Javelin anti-tank weapons to Kyiv in 2019, a move that helped Ukraine resist Russia's aggression.  

 

"Without the Javelins in 2022, when the full-scale attack started, Ukraine would have been nowhere," Rutte emphasized. "I told him we really have to give Trump credit for what he did then, what America did since then and also what America is still doing." He refrained from commenting directly on Trump’s harsh words to Zelensky but insisted, "I am absolutely convinced that the US wants to bring Ukraine to this durable peace. What they need to get there is to make sure that we’ll all work together on this."  

 

Zelensky, for his part, appeared to acknowledge the difficult position he now finds himself in. Expressing regret over how the White House talks unraveled, he stressed the importance of securing Trump’s support. "We are ready to sign the minerals agreement, and it will be the first step toward security guarantees. But it’s not enough, and we need more than just that. A ceasefire without security guarantees is dangerous for Ukraine. We’ve been fighting for three years, and Ukrainian people need to know that America is on our side," he said.  

 

Despite Starmer's intervention and the advice from European allies, it remains unclear whether Zelensky and Trump can move past the diplomatic clash.

 

Based on a report by The Telegraph  2025-03-03

 

 

[JimHuaHin]

Who but a fascist or insane person would want to reconcile with Trump?

[Hanaguma]

16 minutes ago, JimHuaHin said:

Who but a fascist or insane person would want to reconcile with Trump?

Well, you have to decide which Zelensky is.  According to Mama Beeb, he is still willing to sign the mining deal with the US. 

 

I have a feeling that some of Zelensky's more clever advisors got in his ear during the trans-Atlantic flight and basically told him that he screwed the pooch.  Meeting Starmer was lovely, but our Piers only promised him 1% of the aid that the US could give.  

[WDSmart]

I think Zelensky should reconcile with Trump, but only if Trump seeks reconciliation. In other words, I don't believe that Zelensky should "bow down" to Trump, but a handshake and a "let's start over" would be okay with me.

[Hakuna Matata]

CNN and other major media are today carrying video clips on their youtube channels giving us a glimpse of the 19 or so European and transatlantic leaders who gathered in London to discuss with Volodymyr Zelensky how to continue their cooperation in defense of Ukraine following the debacle in the White House in Washington yesterday, when Zelensky was humiliated before the television cameras and was shown to the door. Among the 19 whom I counted when they posed for the obligatory group photo were  Emmanuel Macron, Donald Tusk, Georgia Meloni, Justin Trudeau, Mark Rutte, Ursula von der Leyen.

In the few introductory words delivered by Keir Starmer, we heard that their common mission is to provide for European security, in which defending Ukraine plays a vital role. They seemingly wish to arrive at a common position on defending Ukraine that they will later present to Washington.

The problem with this is that they are knowingly running directly against the now crystal clear position of Donald Trump to wash his hands of Zelensky and to allow the Russians to finish up this war as they see best. The U.S. is about to cut off shipments of arms prepared by Biden in his last days and will surely not send any further weapons to Kiev out of its current budget.

It is utterly bizarre that these stubborn Europeans think that they have some leverage with Trump. Their blindness is not merely to the obvious fact that absent the participation of the USA in the war effort consisting of materiel, money and critically important satellite intelligence to guide battlefield operations, the Ukrainian forces have no chance whatsoever of standing up to Russia.  Europe’s possible aid will solve nothing.

More to the point, when they speak of European security, they overlook the fact that without vibrant U.S. participation in NATO, NATO can fold its tents since it will be nonfunctional. It lacks the air lift, the armaments manufacturing capacity, most everything to sustain a war that will last more than a few days.

By their present gathering, these leaders are setting the stage for a U.S. pull-out from NATO.  They forget how the United States under any president, not just Donald J. Trump, reacts to defiance from allies.  Just think back to 2003 when Germany, France and Belgium had the temerity to veto the U.S. drafted resolution before the UN Security Council approving the planned invasion of Iraq over alleged weapons of mass destruction.  Within days, French wines were being poured out into the gutters, French fries were renamed ‘freedom fries’ and there was outrage and indignation across the land.  No less will result from the stupid, pig-headed action of these European heads of government in London today.

As for Keir Starmer, he must be the stupidest of the lot.  When in Washington meeting with Donald Trump, he was offered a tariff free trade deal with the USA that his country has sought ever since Brexit. He failed to see that this was the deal:  you get tariff free trade if you just shut up about Ukraine.  But shut up this oaf could not do.  As they say in Washington, there now will be consequences.
On related news of the day, it appears that King Charles today gave an audience to his good friend Volodymyr Zelensky.  And does he still expect Donald Trump to come calling for the state visit and private dinner with the King that Starmer delivered during his visit?

[Hakuna Matata]

 

[Dave0206]

I was watching a Chris Commo pod cast and what he said made 100% sense that we all watched the ambush on TV but we decided differently who was to blame .

To me it was stage managed for "good TV " showing how tough the maga crowd is

[JonnyF]

5 minutes ago, Hakuna Matata said:

As for Keir Starmer, he must be the stupidest of the lot.  When in Washington meeting with Donald Trump, he was offered a tariff free trade deal with the USA that his country has sought ever since Brexit. He failed to see that this was the deal:  you get tariff free trade if you just shut up about Ukraine.  But shut up this oaf could not do.  As they say in Washington, there now will be consequences.

 

Exactly.

 

Starmer doesn't want a great post Brexit trade deal with the US. That would prove him and all the Remainers wrong again. He wants to cozy up to the EU leaders and try to rejoin.

 

He hates Britain.  

[Harrisfan]

6 hours ago, JimHuaHin said:

Who but a fascist or insane person would want to reconcile with Trump?

Nobody cares what you think. Opinions on here don't matter.

[Hakuna Matata]

9 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Starmer doesn't want a great post Brexit trade deal with the US.

 

Yes, I think Nigel Farage would be much better. What do you think?

[JonnyF]

2 minutes ago, Hakuna Matata said:

 

Yes, I think Nigel Farage would be much better. What do you think?

 

He certainly couldn't be any worse.

 

The Tories have failed, Labour are a complete joke. So I'd certainly be willing to give Reform a chance. 

[Harrisfan]

4 minutes ago, Hakuna Matata said:

 

Yes, I think Nigel Farage would be much better. What do you think?

Friends with Trump so yes.

[Harrisfan]

21 minutes ago, Hakuna Matata said:

 

"Trump just wants the midget to sign"

 

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[Hakuna Matata]

Day by day the blindness and obtuseness of British Prime Minister Keir Starmer and of his French comrade President Emmanuel Macron reach new and unimaginable heights.
This is perfectly clear from this morning’s Financial Times’ extensive report on the outcome of the meeting of 19 European leaders that Starmer convened in London on Sunday.

Understanding that Zelensky is his own worst enemy in dealing with the new administration in Washington, Starmer and Macron have decided to speak to Trump on Ukraine’s behalf. They are proposing a one-month Cease Fire that will cover hostile actions in the air, sea and relating to energy infrastructure. They do not propose to watch the 1000 km long battlefront, presumably because that is beyond their capabilities.

Putting aside the question about whether such a limited truce makes any sense on its own, they propose to enforce it by sending ‘boots on the ground’ from a still unspecified ‘coalition of the willing’ which their own armies would lead.

Here it is stunning that they are not listening to the flat refusal of President Vladimir Putin and Foreign Minister Lavrov in their public statements of the past week to allow any stationing of foreign troops in Ukraine as guarantors of security. The very notion of NATO member countries having troops in Ukraine goes directly against the reasons for going to war that Russia announced back in February 2022.  Again, if Starmer and Macron had been paying attention, they also would have heard the Russians saying that such troops would be considered as co-belligerents and would be targeted for destruction, likely with tactical nuclear weapons.  Anybody listening out there in London?

But then again, Macron and Starmer are not listening to Washington either. They said yesterday that they require the US to provide air cover for the troops in their ‘coalition of the willing’ though last Friday Donald Trump made it perfectly clear that the USA will not provide any security guaranties to a peace in Ukraine.

You have to wonder what world Starmer, Macron and the other fools who gathered in London yesterday may be living in.  It is certainly not the one you, dear reader, and I share.

As regards Mr. Volodymyr Zelensky, who was guest of honor at the gathering in London, he had a session with reporters at the conclusion of the talks and just before he flew back to Kiev. This was covered very nicely by the BBC television news this morning, including the lengthy question from their reporter on whether Zelensky was prepared to do what Team Trump had demanded on Friday and to make a full apology to the American president.  Zelensky gave a rambling answer in line with the boorish remarks he delivered in the Oval Office. He said that the much-awaited deal on rare earth was still ready for signing, but quietly added that it had to include a U.S. security guaranty for his country after the war.  Very good, but such a guaranty was explicitly refused by Trump.

It is hard to imagine that any of these state actors will remain on the stage for more than a few months to come. Their mediocrity, nay, their rank stupidity would go unnoticed in ordinary times. But these are not ordinary times.

[rough diamond]

38 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

Opinions on here don't matter.

Then why keep posting 100's of yours every day?

[Harrisfan]

26 minutes ago, Hakuna Matata said:

Day by day the blindness and obtuseness of British Prime Minister Keir Starmer and of his French comrade President Emmanuel Macron reach new and unimaginable heights.
This is perfectly clear from this morning’s Financial Times’ extensive report on the outcome of the meeting of 19 European leaders that Starmer convened in London on Sunday.

Understanding that Zelensky is his own worst enemy in dealing with the new administration in Washington, Starmer and Macron have decided to speak to Trump on Ukraine’s behalf. They are proposing a one-month Cease Fire that will cover hostile actions in the air, sea and relating to energy infrastructure. They do not propose to watch the 1000 km long battlefront, presumably because that is beyond their capabilities.

Putting aside the question about whether such a limited truce makes any sense on its own, they propose to enforce it by sending ‘boots on the ground’ from a still unspecified ‘coalition of the willing’ which their own armies would lead.

Here it is stunning that they are not listening to the flat refusal of President Vladimir Putin and Foreign Minister Lavrov in their public statements of the past week to allow any stationing of foreign troops in Ukraine as guarantors of security. The very notion of NATO member countries having troops in Ukraine goes directly against the reasons for going to war that Russia announced back in February 2022.  Again, if Starmer and Macron had been paying attention, they also would have heard the Russians saying that such troops would be considered as co-belligerents and would be targeted for destruction, likely with tactical nuclear weapons.  Anybody listening out there in London?

But then again, Macron and Starmer are not listening to Washington either. They said yesterday that they require the US to provide air cover for the troops in their ‘coalition of the willing’ though last Friday Donald Trump made it perfectly clear that the USA will not provide any security guaranties to a peace in Ukraine.

You have to wonder what world Starmer, Macron and the other fools who gathered in London yesterday may be living in.  It is certainly not the one you, dear reader, and I share.

As regards Mr. Volodymyr Zelensky, who was guest of honor at the gathering in London, he had a session with reporters at the conclusion of the talks and just before he flew back to Kiev. This was covered very nicely by the BBC television news this morning, including the lengthy question from their reporter on whether Zelensky was prepared to do what Team Trump had demanded on Friday and to make a full apology to the American president.  Zelensky gave a rambling answer in line with the boorish remarks he delivered in the Oval Office. He said that the much-awaited deal on rare earth was still ready for signing, but quietly added that it had to include a U.S. security guaranty for his country after the war.  Very good, but such a guaranty was explicitly refused by Trump.

It is hard to imagine that any of these state actors will remain on the stage for more than a few months to come. Their mediocrity, nay, their rank stupidity would go unnoticed in ordinary times. But these are not ordinary times.

Stupid lefties. Nothing new. 

[Harrisfan]

1 minute ago, rough diamond said:

Then why keep posting 100's of yours every day?

Still butthurt over Trump wah wah wah

[Snackbar]

Is he deaf or dumb?

 

America has no interest in Zelensky.

 

Trump, Pooh & Putin is the path to peace.

 

Or a European blood bath 

[Summerinsiam]

37 minutes ago, Hakuna Matata said:

Day by day the blindness and obtuseness of British Prime Minister Keir Starmer and of his French comrade President Emmanuel Macron reach new and unimaginable heights.
This is perfectly clear from this morning’s Financial Times’ extensive report on the outcome of the meeting of 19 European leaders that Starmer convened in London on Sunday.

Understanding that Zelensky is his own worst enemy in dealing with the new administration in Washington, Starmer and Macron have decided to speak to Trump on Ukraine’s behalf. They are proposing a one-month Cease Fire that will cover hostile actions in the air, sea and relating to energy infrastructure. They do not propose to watch the 1000 km long battlefront, presumably because that is beyond their capabilities.

Putting aside the question about whether such a limited truce makes any sense on its own, they propose to enforce it by sending ‘boots on the ground’ from a still unspecified ‘coalition of the willing’ which their own armies would lead.

Here it is stunning that they are not listening to the flat refusal of President Vladimir Putin and Foreign Minister Lavrov in their public statements of the past week to allow any stationing of foreign troops in Ukraine as guarantors of security. The very notion of NATO member countries having troops in Ukraine goes directly against the reasons for going to war that Russia announced back in February 2022.  Again, if Starmer and Macron had been paying attention, they also would have heard the Russians saying that such troops would be considered as co-belligerents and would be targeted for destruction, likely with tactical nuclear weapons.  Anybody listening out there in London?

But then again, Macron and Starmer are not listening to Washington either. They said yesterday that they require the US to provide air cover for the troops in their ‘coalition of the willing’ though last Friday Donald Trump made it perfectly clear that the USA will not provide any security guaranties to a peace in Ukraine.

You have to wonder what world Starmer, Macron and the other fools who gathered in London yesterday may be living in.  It is certainly not the one you, dear reader, and I share.

As regards Mr. Volodymyr Zelensky, who was guest of honor at the gathering in London, he had a session with reporters at the conclusion of the talks and just before he flew back to Kiev. This was covered very nicely by the BBC television news this morning, including the lengthy question from their reporter on whether Zelensky was prepared to do what Team Trump had demanded on Friday and to make a full apology to the American president.  Zelensky gave a rambling answer in line with the boorish remarks he delivered in the Oval Office. He said that the much-awaited deal on rare earth was still ready for signing, but quietly added that it had to include a U.S. security guaranty for his country after the war.  Very good, but such a guaranty was explicitly refused by Trump.

It is hard to imagine that any of these state actors will remain on the stage for more than a few months to come. Their mediocrity, nay, their rank stupidity would go unnoticed in ordinary times. But these are not ordinary times.

The Russians are not interested in talking to the Europeans and have made this abundantly clear. Nor are they interested in a simplistic one month air and sea ceasefire. The Americans are not interested in giving security guarantees and have made this abundantly clear. It has been made abundantly clear to Zelenskey that he should make concessions but is now saying he will not cede any occupied territory,  even though Ukraine cannot retake it. The thrust of the American's diplomatic efforts is that they should be based on the reality of the current situation on the ground and not how Zelenskey, Starmer, Macron and co think it should be. They are clearly not listening and seem intent on the continuation of the failed policies of the last three years, leading to more death, destruction, global instability and a further erosion of Ukrainian territory.

[Harrisfan]

2 minutes ago, Summerinsiam said:

The Russians are not interested in talking to the Europeans and have made this abundantly clear. Nor are they interested in a simplistic one month air and sea ceasefire. The Americans are not interested in giving security guarantees and have made this abundantly clear. It has been made abundantly clear to Zelenskey that he should make concessions but is now saying he will not cede any occupied territory,  even though Ukraine cannot retake it. The thrust of the American's diplomatic efforts is that they should be based on the reality of the current situation on the ground and not how Zelenskey, Starmer, Macron and co think it should be. They are clearly not listening and seem intent on the continuation of the failed policies of the last three years, leading to more death, destruction, global instability and a further erosion of Ukrainian territory.

Ukraine used to part of Austria and Poland plus others. Kind of a made up country.

[transam]

Just now, Harrisfan said:

Ukraine used to part of Austria and Poland plus others. Kind of a made up country.

What has that got to do with its recognised sovereignty status now............?  🙄

[scorecard]

1 hour ago, Hakuna Matata said:

CNN and other major media are today carrying video clips on their youtube channels giving us a glimpse of the 19 or so European and transatlantic leaders who gathered in London to discuss with Volodymyr Zelensky how to continue their cooperation in defense of Ukraine following the debacle in the White House in Washington yesterday, when Zelensky was humiliated before the television cameras and was shown to the door. Among the 19 whom I counted when they posed for the obligatory group photo were  Emmanuel Macron, Donald Tusk, Georgia Meloni, Justin Trudeau, Mark Rutte, Ursula von der Leyen.

In the few introductory words delivered by Keir Starmer, we heard that their common mission is to provide for European security, in which defending Ukraine plays a vital role. They seemingly wish to arrive at a common position on defending Ukraine that they will later present to Washington.

The problem with this is that they are knowingly running directly against the now crystal clear position of Donald Trump to wash his hands of Zelensky and to allow the Russians to finish up this war as they see best. The U.S. is about to cut off shipments of arms prepared by Biden in his last days and will surely not send any further weapons to Kiev out of its current budget.

It is utterly bizarre that these stubborn Europeans think that they have some leverage with Trump. Their blindness is not merely to the obvious fact that absent the participation of the USA in the war effort consisting of materiel, money and critically important satellite intelligence to guide battlefield operations, the Ukrainian forces have no chance whatsoever of standing up to Russia.  Europe’s possible aid will solve nothing.

More to the point, when they speak of European security, they overlook the fact that without vibrant U.S. participation in NATO, NATO can fold its tents since it will be nonfunctional. It lacks the air lift, the armaments manufacturing capacity, most everything to sustain a war that will last more than a few days.

By their present gathering, these leaders are setting the stage for a U.S. pull-out from NATO.  They forget how the United States under any president, not just Donald J. Trump, reacts to defiance from allies.  Just think back to 2003 when Germany, France and Belgium had the temerity to veto the U.S. drafted resolution before the UN Security Council approving the planned invasion of Iraq over alleged weapons of mass destruction.  Within days, French wines were being poured out into the gutters, French fries were renamed ‘freedom fries’ and there was outrage and indignation across the land.  No less will result from the stupid, pig-headed action of these European heads of government in London today.

As for Keir Starmer, he must be the stupidest of the lot.  When in Washington meeting with Donald Trump, he was offered a tariff free trade deal with the USA that his country has sought ever since Brexit. He failed to see that this was the deal:  you get tariff free trade if you just shut up about Ukraine.  But shut up this oaf could not do.  As they say in Washington, there now will be consequences.
On related news of the day, it appears that King Charles today gave an audience to his good friend Volodymyr Zelensky.  And does he still expect Donald Trump to come calling for the state visit and private dinner with the King that Starmer delivered during his visit?

 

"The problem with this is that they are knowingly running directly against the now crystal clear position of Donald Trump to wash his hands of Zelensky ..."  Not a proven fact, Just your opinion, nothing more.

 

Ukraine has massive deposits of rare earths, lithium etc., etc., extremely valuable to the US.

 

Trump would be way out of line in his responsibilities to the US if he let access to that slip away because of his massive ego. 

 

 

[Red Forever]

1 hour ago, Hakuna Matata said:

CNN and other major media are today carrying video clips on their youtube channels giving us a glimpse of the 19 or so European and transatlantic leaders who gathered in London to discuss with Volodymyr Zelensky how to continue their cooperation in defense of Ukraine following the debacle in the White House in Washington yesterday, when Zelensky was humiliated before the television cameras and was shown to the door. Among the 19 whom I counted when they posed for the obligatory group photo were  Emmanuel Macron, Donald Tusk, Georgia Meloni, Justin Trudeau, Mark Rutte, Ursula von der Leyen.

In the few introductory words delivered by Keir Starmer, we heard that their common mission is to provide for European security, in which defending Ukraine plays a vital role. They seemingly wish to arrive at a common position on defending Ukraine that they will later present to Washington.

The problem with this is that they are knowingly running directly against the now crystal clear position of Donald Trump to wash his hands of Zelensky and to allow the Russians to finish up this war as they see best. The U.S. is about to cut off shipments of arms prepared by Biden in his last days and will surely not send any further weapons to Kiev out of its current budget.

It is utterly bizarre that these stubborn Europeans think that they have some leverage with Trump. Their blindness is not merely to the obvious fact that absent the participation of the USA in the war effort consisting of materiel, money and critically important satellite intelligence to guide battlefield operations, the Ukrainian forces have no chance whatsoever of standing up to Russia.  Europe’s possible aid will solve nothing.

More to the point, when they speak of European security, they overlook the fact that without vibrant U.S. participation in NATO, NATO can fold its tents since it will be nonfunctional. It lacks the air lift, the armaments manufacturing capacity, most everything to sustain a war that will last more than a few days.

By their present gathering, these leaders are setting the stage for a U.S. pull-out from NATO.  They forget how the United States under any president, not just Donald J. Trump, reacts to defiance from allies.  Just think back to 2003 when Germany, France and Belgium had the temerity to veto the U.S. drafted resolution before the UN Security Council approving the planned invasion of Iraq over alleged weapons of mass destruction.  Within days, French wines were being poured out into the gutters, French fries were renamed ‘freedom fries’ and there was outrage and indignation across the land.  No less will result from the stupid, pig-headed action of these European heads of government in London today.

As for Keir Starmer, he must be the stupidest of the lot.  When in Washington meeting with Donald Trump, he was offered a tariff free trade deal with the USA that his country has sought ever since Brexit. He failed to see that this was the deal:  you get tariff free trade if you just shut up about Ukraine.  But shut up this oaf could not do.  As they say in Washington, there now will be consequences.
On related news of the day, it appears that King Charles today gave an audience to his good friend Volodymyr Zelensky.  And does he still expect Donald Trump to come calling for the state visit and private dinner with the King that Starmer delivered during his visit?

And now tell me how the temerity shown by France, Belgium and Germany in vetoing the 2003 US resolution to invade Iraq based on pure lies about WMD was wrong.

[BangkokReady]

8 hours ago, JimHuaHin said:

Who but a fascist or insane person would want to reconcile with Trump?

 

Who but a fascist or insane person would accept billions in money and military support from Donald Trump?

[spidermike007]

I watched the entire 46 minute interview and I do have to admit that Zelensky was unusually direct and unusually critical of Trump. However nothing that he said was untrue and what he said was quite accurate. The problem was that Trump is not accustomed to being confronted and though Trump and Vance likely set up the oval office interview as a way to ambush Zelensky, in the end Zelensky ended up ambushing Trump and Vance. He made them both lose their cool, and they looked utterly foolish on the world stage.

 

It was probably not smart for him to mouth off to Trump like that, as he knew it wouldn't end well, but my presumption is that he had no interest in giving away half of Ukraine's mineral wealth which is worth over a trillion dollars, in exchange for the repayment of $130 billion dollars worth debt. It was a very bad deal for Ukraine and I think Zelensky played it smart. He is likely garnering tremendous sympathy around the world and my guess is that the EU and other nations will step in and take the place of the US in terms of aid to Ukraine. In return us influence is diminishing by the day, but that's just big Don isn't it?

 

The goon squad are in the process of engaging in damage repair right now, by using really ridiculous PR like the criticism of the Zelensky's outfit disrespecting the oval office, and other garbage like that.

 

The bottom line is the White House is embarrassed regardless of what they say, and they look like a petty little amateur squad in the eyes of the entire world. 

 

 

[Hakuna Matata]

Black Lives Matter!

 

Black Opinions Matter even more.

 

 

[thaipo7]

8 hours ago, JimHuaHin said:

Who but a fascist or insane person would want to reconcile with Trump?

This would not have happened except for DEMOCRATS who cornered Zelenski just before the meeting with Trump and telling him no to sign the agreement.  So tired of anti Trumpers who go around calling Trump names when the know nothing except for the what they hear in the Marxist Democrat news.  Educate yourself or at least think for yourself.

[Hakuna Matata]

 

[Harrisfan]

2 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

I watched the entire 46 minute interview and I do have to admit that Zelensky was unusually direct and unusually critical of Trump. However nothing that he said was untrue and what he said was quite accurate. The problem was that Trump is not accustomed to being confronted and though Trump and Vance likely set up the oval office interview as a way to ambush Zelensky, in the end Zelensky ended up ambushing Trump and Vance. He made them both lose their cool, and they looked utterly foolish on the world stage.

 

It was probably not smart for him to mouth off to Trump like that, as he knew it wouldn't end well, but my presumption is that he had no interest in giving away half of Ukraine's mineral wealth which is worth over a trillion dollars, in exchange for the repayment of $130 billion dollars worth debt. It was a very bad deal for Ukraine and I think Zelensky played it smart. He is likely garnering tremendous sympathy around the world and my guess is that the EU and other nations will step in and take the place of the US in terms of aid to Ukraine. In return us influence is diminishing by the day, but that's just big Don isn't it?

 

The goon squad are in the process of engaging in damage repair right now, by using really ridiculous PR like the criticism of the Zelensky's outfit disrespecting the oval office, and other garbage like that.

 

The bottom line is the White House is embarrassed regardless of what they say, and they look like a petty little amateur squad in the eyes of the entire world. 

 

 

You?

[Harrisfan]

1 hour ago, Hakuna Matata said:

Black Lives Matter!

 

Black Opinions Matter even more.

 

 

Why the left love this little clown