Lopburi Quad Bike Crash: Scottish Expat's Death Highlights Road Dangers

[Liverpool Lou]

6 hours ago, henryford1958 said:

Quad  bikes are very dangerous at the best of times but riding one on a motorway, that's just madness.

Where was it reported that he was on a motorway?

[Ralf001]

Just now, Liverpool Lou said:

Hardly any relevance...he was thrown 30 feet from an elevated road to the ground below.

To be fair he was likely thrown only a few feet........ then fell 30 to the ground!

[Liverpool Lou]

2 minutes ago, Ralf001 said:

3 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Hardly any relevance...he was thrown 30 feet from an elevated road to the ground below.

To be fair he was likely thrown only a few feet........ then fell 30 to the ground!

To be fair, that's what I said.

[Ralf001]

1 minute ago, Liverpool Lou said:

To be fair, that's what I said.

Ohhh Righto... I must have read a different post.

[richard_smith237]

18 minutes ago, lordgrinz said:

23 minutes ago, Mr Meeseeks said:

 

Correct, had it happen after a Thai woman hit my Benz while driving aggressively.

 

Dashcam footage showed she was entirely in the wrong. 

 

Same here, has saved my wife and I four times now, all of the Thai drivers lied, the dashcam shown to the insurance and police fixed their lying ways.

 

I've dash-cams on both the Car and the Motorcycle (both forward and rear facing).... 

 

.....  used for the very reasons you describe above...  in an accident People lie - either to save face, cover their mistake, protect themselves, or they simply see things from a very different perspective.... 

[lordgrinz]

1 minute ago, richard_smith237 said:

or they simply see things from a very different perspective

 

Had one guy actually jumping up and down in excitement saying "Farang! Farang!" and thought he hit the jackpot. He was super disappointed when my insurance guy showed up, and even with my dashcam evidence he still wanted to go to the police station to negotiate. Lets just say the police put him in his place, you can't come off an exit ramp and merge across 3 lanes of heavy traffic diagonally, who would have thought? LOL

[Montnoveau]

6 hours ago, henryford1958 said:

Quad  bikes are very dangerous at the best of times but riding one on a motorway, that's just madness.

Yes, at best they are an accident waiting to happen.

 

[djs2799]

56 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

A seatbelt on an ATV ???

 

I think in this case a 'bungie' cord may have saved his life !!... or just not entering the corner at speed (if thats what happened)...  

 

However, we should never be thethered (by seatbelt) on any vehicle which can potentially roll over on to us... the safest option (of a lot of unsafe options) is to get thrown away from the vehicle. 

 

A seatbelt on an ATV would be just as daft as a seatbelt on a motorcycle. 

 

 

Your'e right seatbelts are not the answer. Driving knowing the vehicle you are in maintaining control is the answer. Sounds obvious, but.... 

[richard_smith237]

44 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

15 hours ago, Lucky Bones said:

Likely rear-ended and forgotten. Only in Thailand.

Only from AN posters.  No indication at all that he was rear-ended.

 

There was no 'report' that he was 'rear-ended'..... 

 

However...   these source of these reports very often lacks very basic information details we may consider essential to the story.

 

 

My initial thoughts were that as this was an ATV the deceased had to take the corner very cautiously and slowly... If there was someone else following closely behind and not paying attention they could have 'easily nudged him' and it wouldn't have taken much to nudge a much smaller vehicle into the 'edge' without leaving any marks on the smaller vehicle. 

 

I'm not suggesting this is what happened, but I am suggesting its a feasible answer to how something such as this might occur. 

Of course, there are also plenty of other feasible answers, such as he was simply travelling too quickly... etc... 

 

However, the 'absense' of reporting that he [the deceased] was 'rear ended' or 'nudged' into the wall is a not a particularly solid indication that this 'did not' happen in this case.

 

I think all possibilities should be considered in such incidents regardless of what was reported.

[richard_smith237]

35 minutes ago, lordgrinz said:

Had one guy actually jumping up and down in excitement saying "Farang! Farang!" and thought he hit the jackpot. He was super disappointed when my insurance guy showed up, and even with my dashcam evidence he still wanted to go to the police station to negotiate. Lets just say the police put him in his place, you can't come off an exit ramp and merge across 3 lanes of heavy traffic diagonally, who would have thought? LOL

 

I've had similar....   the other party incredulous that authorities would not side with them simply because they were Thai...

 

I would not want to be driving here at all without a Dash-Cam... that said, I would not want to be driving anywhere these days without a dash-cam - but often find myself hiring cars in various countries without such 'protection'....

 

[lordgrinz]

12 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 I would not want to be driving anywhere these days without a dash-cam - but often find myself hiring cars in various countries without such 'protection'....

 

 

Bought a Garmin Dashcam Mini 2 for this specific purpose, and their suction cup mount. It only records the front view, but good enough for when traveling. Used it in my rental cars on my last trip home to the states. 👍

[richard_smith237]

6 minutes ago, lordgrinz said:

 

Bought a Garmin Dashcam Mini 2 for this specific purpose, and their suction cup mount. It only records the front view, but good enough for when traveling. Used it in my rental cars on my last trip home to the states. 👍

 

 

Good info thanks - I'll look at that.

[cardinalblue]

17 hours ago, it is what it is said:

 

very sad, but a lesson to us all, don;t ride beyond your capabilities, will be interesting to see whether alcohol + speed played a part, or just a lack of ability to ride an ATV,  let's assume for now alcohol didn;t.

 

ATV's are notorious for accidents for inexperienced riders.

What actual lesson was learned? We all know the dangers of the Thai roads….so many factors need to change and improve…I haven’t see any improvement in the 20 plus years of driving here…it all starts with  that attitude of I can do as I please as an individual driver on the roads…

[richard_smith237]

2 minutes ago, cardinalblue said:

What actual lesson was learned? We all know the dangers of the Thai roads….so many factors need to change and improve…I haven’t see any improvement in the 20 plus years of driving here…it all starts with  that attitude of I can do as I please as an individual driver on the roads…

 

The lesson - never to become complacent when driving and riding - its too easy for an accident to happen.

[quake]

7 hours ago, Tailwagsdog said:

The magic words are :- SLOW DOWN

 Or Get a car.

What's the point of  a quad bike on the roads. 

[Montnoveau]

5 minutes ago, quake said:

 Or Get a car.

What's the point of  a quad bike on the roads. 

They're basically made for farm use, in Sweden they also use them for logging, snow-plowing.

[Humpy]

Never mind quad bikes.....Just keep an out for 10 yearolds on electric scooters around town and on the main roads ...... oh ,and 4 school kids  on a m/c  leaving the school gates, no helmets, no insurance, no licence and not a policeman in sight. !!

[roo860]

5 hours ago, Ralf001 said:

 

I grew up chasing goats around my parent's ranch on a Yamaha Tri-Z 250.

 

Now that was dangerous... quads are very tame in comparison.

 

 

Weren't there any girls available to chase?

[dddave]

41 minutes ago, lordgrinz said:

 

Bought a Garmin Dashcam Mini 2 for this specific purpose, and their suction cup mount. It only records the front view, but good enough for when traveling. Used it in my rental cars on my last trip home to the states. 👍

I was just thinking a roof mounted , 360 degree camera would not be a bad idea here considering the number of T-Bones that happen, especially at U-Turns.

[bkk6060]

Next week it will be forgotten. 

[kwilco]

8 hours ago, khunjeff said:

 

How so? The road looks well built and in good condition - this appears to be entirely driver error that would have had the same unfortunate result in any country.

so you've seen the crash report? Nobody else has.

[lordgrinz]

10 minutes ago, dddave said:

I was just thinking a roof mounted , 360 degree camera would not be a bad idea here considering the number of T-Bones that happen, especially at U-Turns.

 

I actually try to avoid unprotected U-turn as much as possible, sometimes no choice, but I have no problem waiting until it's completely safe to turn.

[quake]

23 minutes ago, Humpy said:

Never mind quad bikes.....Just keep an out for 10 yearolds on electric scooters around town and on the main roads ...... oh ,and 4 school kids  on a m/c  leaving the school gates, no helmets, no insurance, no licence and not a policeman in sight. !!

 

The cops are usually at the school gates waving the kids on bikes,  on to the highway.

Amazing Thailand. 

[Mr Meeseeks]

4 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

RIP to the poor chappy - he put in a life of hard work offshore, usually brutal conditions... 

 

Offshore and Rotary, chances are I will know him...

[CK1980]

9 hours ago, impulse said:

Bike is short for bicycle.  Which is the Latin for 2 wheels (that's tongue in cheek).  It was a quad, but it certainly wasn't a bike.

 

We refer to them as quad ATV's.

 

Who's we?...

 

Might not be grammatically correct but they are called quad bikes.  

 

QUAD BIKE | English meaning - Cambridge Dictionary

Cambridge Dictionary

https://dictionary.cambridge.org › dictionary › quad-bike

 

 

 

 

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[Ralf001]

2 hours ago, roo860 said:

Weren't there any girls available to chase?

girls came after I hit puberty.

[Ralf001]

2 hours ago, dddave said:

I was just thinking a roof mounted , 360 degree camera would not be a bad idea here considering the number of T-Bones that happen, especially at U-Turns.

I have 360 degree cams in my cars.

None roof mounted.

[rough diamond]

17 minutes ago, Ralf001 said:

girls came after I hit puberty.

I think you could maybe have phrased that a bit better!

[Ralf001]

2 minutes ago, rough diamond said:

I think you could maybe have phrased that a bit better!

 

not sure how... I grew up on a ranch and every spare moment was either on my motorcross bike or trike chasing the animals around.... Girls simply were not on the radar until I turned 15 or so.