Ukraine Backs U.S. Ceasefire Proposal, Awaiting Russian Response

[FruitPudding]

6 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I suspect your recourse to name calling has its roots in your inability to put forward an argument that isn’t already recognized as Russian propaganda.

 

I posted links to American news channels, not Russian. Lol

[FruitPudding]

6 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

 No, its evidence of Putin employing Neo-Nazis in his invading army and promoting neo-Nazi groups across Europe.

 

 

Who asked you for that?

 

Are you saying two wrongs make a right? 

 

Everyone knows Russia has done wrong, but nobody is talking about what Ukraine did to bring this on themselves. 

[FruitPudding]

11 minutes ago, rough diamond said:

Where?

I have been through your posts and cannot find any such link.

(it may have been removed!)

Please just repost it.

What is the problem with such a simple request?

 

 

It's still there, just 7 posts above your last post asking me for proof.

 

I ain't going through my online history to find the articles again , then post the exact same thing again.

 

Why should I make a double post for you?

[jas007]

I'm not sure if I've replied to this topic, but I'm pretty sure Russia won't agree to any kind of ceasefire unless there's an actual deal that gives Russia the security it wants.  In this context that means no NATO in Ukraine and no European troops in Ukraine, regardless of what costumes they're wearing.  AndI'm pretty sure Russia won't make any deal with Zelenskyy at this juncture.  He's not a legitimate president, is he?   

 

Anyway, that's my take.  There'll be a deal on Russia's terms or there will be no deal.  Trump knows the war is over, and he wants the killing to stop.  

[Yellowtail]

Russia does not need security. I think we'll see a large arms buildup, US mining interests' and some number of peacekeeping NATO troops in Ukraine.

 

Russia goes back to 2019 boarders. 

 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

25 minutes ago, FruitPudding said:

 

Who asked you for that?

 

Are you saying two wrongs make a right? 

 

Everyone knows Russia has done wrong, but nobody is talking about what Ukraine did to bring this on themselves. 

I don’t need to be asked thank you.

 

No I’m not saying two wrongs make a right, I have provided credible links with evidence to two things:

 

1. Putin is and has employed neo-Nazi troops in his war against Ukraine.

 

2. Putin is and has supported Neo-Nazi groups in Europe. 
 

The first is an example of his hypocrisy, the latter an example of him setting g up the very pretext he relies upon to justify his invasion of Ukraine.

 

[steven100]

1 hour ago, ExpatOilWorker said:

Orc hunting season is still in full swing.

 

just shoot the bar_stard ...    i'm sure he's raped and killed kids and old folk before. 

[frank83628]

2 hours ago, steven100 said:

 

I just had to show you this .......   if correct,  this is the type of stupid comments that your lover boy hero comes out with :

 

' they must buy teslas  '         what sort of bs is that from a president     

 

 

Why not post the truth social link from trump... easiest way to verify it

[jas007]

16 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Russia does not need security. I think we'll see a large arms buildup, US mining interests' and some number of peacekeeping NATO troops in Ukraine.

 

Russia goes back to 2019 boarders. 

 

 

You can bet that there will be no NATO troops of any kind.  Russia absolutely needs security.  Do you understand why?  There used to be short and intermediate range missile treaties that Trump cancelled.  That left Russia at the mercy of whatever missiles NATO might place in Ukraine within striking distance of Russia strategic assets in Russia.  For them, it's an existential issue and it's going to be done their way.

 

As for England and France and their pledge of billions to fight Russia?  Everyone knows that's a joke.  They don't have the money and they don't have the troops.  It's over.  

[nauseus]

2 hours ago, xylophone said:

Nauseus posted:   "Only Dems seem to feel the need to resort to so-called fact-checkers, who are generally as wrong as them."

 

So there you have it!!

 

Nauseus posts : Swamp fact checkers are lazy and untruthful. MAGA checkers are awesome! 😜

 

 

[nauseus]

26 minutes ago, jas007 said:

You can bet that there will be no NATO troops of any kind.  Russia absolutely needs security.  Do you understand why?  There used to be short and intermediate range missile treaties that Trump cancelled.  That left Russia at the mercy of whatever missiles NATO might place in Ukraine within striking distance of Russia strategic assets in Russia.  For them, it's an existential issue and it's going to be done their way.

 

As for England and France and their pledge of billions to fight Russia?  Everyone knows that's a joke.  They don't have the money and they don't have the troops.  It's over.  

 

What?  Trump left Russia at the mercy of NATO missiles? But but but I thought that Trump was Putin's pal and gofer! Oooh nooo!  

[nauseus]

43 minutes ago, steven100 said:

just shoot the bar_stard ...    i'm sure he's raped and killed kids and old folk before. 

 

Is that Trudeau?

[jas007]

10 minutes ago, nauseus said:

 

What?  Trump left Russia at the mercy of NATO missiles? But but but I thought that Trump was Putin's pal and gofer! Oooh nooo!  

I think that was done during Trump's first term.  I'm not sure of the circumstances or the reasoning.  

[0ffshore360]

Trump is obliged to release the funding previously approved via Congress. So while Russia  continues to progress to the territorial borders of "annexed " objectives the Ukrainian defense forces will be obliged to martyr themselves to the predetermined plan.

The savagery of political desire has only changed in capacity for killing.

[candide]

27 minutes ago, jas007 said:

I think that was done during Trump's first term.  I'm not sure of the circumstances or the reasoning.  

The real reason was China.

 

BTW, there's no real need to put this type missiles (up to 5000 km) in Ukraine. They can be sent from Poland or elsewhere.

[candide]

1 hour ago, jas007 said:

I'm not sure if I've replied to this topic, but I'm pretty sure Russia won't agree to any kind of ceasefire unless there's an actual deal that gives Russia the security it wants.  In this context that means no NATO in Ukraine and no European troops in Ukraine, regardless of what costumes they're wearing.  AndI'm pretty sure Russia won't make any deal with Zelenskyy at this juncture.  He's not a legitimate president, is he?   

 

Anyway, that's my take.  There'll be a deal on Russia's terms or there will be no deal.  Trump knows the war is over, and he wants the killing to stop.  

Ukraine must be prevented from starting another war by invading Russia again! 🤣

[frank83628]

35 minutes ago, 0ffshore360 said:

Trump is obliged to release the funding previously approved via Congress. So while Russia  continues to progress to the territorial borders of "annexed " objectives the Ukrainian defense forces will be obliged to martyr themselves to the predetermined plan.

The savagery of political desire has only changed in capacity for killing.

Russia annexed = bad

Israel annexed = good

Is this how you think?

[frank83628]

8 hours ago, transam said:

Agree, Trump has sold out Ukraine to a murdering tyrant invader, because Trump has not got the brains to deal with anyone.................😬

You saying agree' is like a monkey eating a sandwich..