Popular Post Social Media Posted March 16 Popular Post Posted March 16 More than 200 alleged members of Venezuela’s Tren de Aragua gang have been deported from the United States to a high-security prison in El Salvador, despite a federal judge’s order attempting to block their removal. The deportation flights had already left US airspace before the order took effect. El Salvador’s President Nayib Bukele confirmed the arrival of 238 Tren de Aragua members along with 23 alleged members of the MS-13 gang on Sunday morning. He shared the news on social media, mocking the legal challenge to the deportations. "Oopsie... Too late," Bukele posted, appearing to taunt the judge’s ruling. Today, the first 238 members of the Venezuelan criminal organization, Tren de Aragua, arrived in our country. They were immediately transferred to CECOT, the Terrorism Confinement Center, for a period of one year (renewable). Today, the first 238 members of the Venezuelan criminal organization, Tren de Aragua, arrived in our country. They were immediately transferred to CECOT, the Terrorism Confinement Center, for a period of one year (renewable). The United States will pay a very low fee for them,… pic.twitter.com/tfsi8cgpD6 — Nayib Bukele (@nayibbukele) March 16, 2025 The detainees were immediately transferred to El Salvador’s notorious Terrorism Confinement Center (Cecot), a massive prison known for its strict security measures. Bukele stated that they would remain there for at least a year, with the possibility of extending their detention. The White House also reacted, with press secretary Karoline Leavitt posting on X that "these heinous monsters were extracted and removed to El Salvador where they will no longer be able to pose any threat to the American People." US Secretary of State Marco Rubio praised Bukele, calling him "the strongest security leader in our region." The deportations followed an executive action by President Trump, who declared that Tren de Aragua was "conducting irregular warfare" against the United States. Using the Alien Enemies Act of 1798, Trump authorized the removal of its members. However, on Saturday evening, US District Judge James Boasberg in Washington, DC, issued a 14-day halt on deportations covered under Trump’s proclamation. When informed that some flights had already taken off, Boasberg verbally ordered them to return, but his written ruling did not explicitly include that directive. The official notice appeared in court records at 19:25 EDT on Saturday (00:25 GMT on Sunday), though it remains unclear exactly when the planes left US airspace. A senior Trump administration official later stated that legal advisors determined the judge’s ruling was not applicable because the flights had already reached international waters. "They were already outside of US airspace," the official told Axios. "We believe the order is not applicable." The US Department of Justice has since appealed Boasberg’s ruling, according to CBS News. Meanwhile, the BBC has reached out to the department for further comment. This latest deportation underscores the growing diplomatic relationship between the US and El Salvador. In February, Rubio made El Salvador one of his first visits after becoming Secretary of State, during which Bukele initially offered to take in US deportees. The move was seen as part of a broader effort to justify the cost of the massive Cecot prison facility. Trump’s second-term immigration crackdown has intensified, with these deportations forming part of his broader push to remove undocumented immigrants. In January, he signed an executive order designating Tren de Aragua and MS-13 as foreign terrorist organizations. His campaign promise to launch the largest deportation operation in US history was a key part of his re-election platform, and this latest move signals his administration’s commitment to fulfilling that pledge. Based on a report by BBC 2025-03-17 2 1 3 5 1
Popular Post thaibeachlovers Posted March 16 Popular Post Posted March 16 Good news. They are heading to the right place for such heinous criminals, and hopefully there till they die of old age. I'm amazed that anyone would actually want them to stay in the US. 5 2 1 4
Popular Post Woke to Sounds Posted March 16 Popular Post Posted March 16 Good to see the USA is taking no crap from anyone. Now if only Canada would stop coddling its criminals. 2 2 4 1 2
Popular Post novacova Posted March 16 Popular Post Posted March 16 33 minutes ago, Social Media said: "They were already outside of US airspace," 34 minutes ago, Social Media said: El Salvador’s President Nayib Bukele confirmed the arrival of 238 Tren de Aragua members along with 23 alleged members of the MS-13 gang on Sunday morning. He shared the news on social media, mocking the legal challenge to the deportations. "Oopsie... Too late," Bukele posted, appearing to taunt the judge’s ruling. 5-5… Now they can send them there covertly the same way the despicable filthy Biden&Co brought many in. 2 5 2 4
Popular Post Cryingdick Posted March 17 Popular Post Posted March 17 The prison they were sent to really sucks. Good for them. 3 1 1
Popular Post JAG Posted March 18 Popular Post Posted March 18 Under the US immigration rules if they were found to be illegal immigrants they can of course be deported to their countries of origin. They weren't deported to their countries of origin though were they, they were rounded up, without any apparent judicial process, under a dubious application of a 250 year old law, itself intended for use in wartime, and sent post haste to a third country, which it would appear has been paid to take them. There, in that third country, they will be incarcerated in conditions which are internationally condemned. They will be kept, without having been convicted or remanded, for at least a year. No charge, no court hearing, no conviction. They have, effectively, been "disappeared" A legal sanction was available, deport them to Venezuela. Instead they were sent to a third country which is being paid to detain them indefinitely. They may be criminals, but that has to be proven before they are jailed. That is what courts are for. Even as criminals, even as foreigners, even as blood polluting brown people, they have rights. El Salvador and the Trump administration are mocking the courts. I wonder how many, perhaps were legally resident, or even maybe US citizens? We will never know, they have effectively disappeared. Is there even a list of names? I would bet it wouldn't happen if they were white! 1 1 5 1 1 4 5
Popular Post riclag Posted March 18 Popular Post Posted March 18 I wonder if they all have the tats? My opinion who cares they are terrorizing terrorist! It was a smart move to get them away from the USA and the humanitarian organizations , so eager to help them. I remember Pelosi got offended years ago when Trump called the other gang (ms13 )animals. https://gov.texas.gov/uploads/files/press/09.16.2024_TdA_Slides-Combined_.pdf 2 1 1 2
Popular Post Emdog Posted March 18 Popular Post Posted March 18 On 3/17/2025 at 5:05 AM, thaibeachlovers said: Good news. They are heading to the right place for such heinous criminals, and hopefully there till they die of old age. I'm amazed that anyone would actually want them to stay in the US. You don't get it, do you? I'm not amazed that you don't care about rights of the accused and having your day in court. No one wants them to stay in the US, full stop. The question does arise as to "Why El Salvador?" If any have lawyers, how will they contact the prisoners? Instagram? The concern is for due process and the rule of law. Trump and his minions lack respect for the law and therein lies the danger. Due process would ensure that those that went were the right ones. Trump has no respect for the law: he wants any law firms that provide counsel to his "enemies" to be barred from entering US courts, any contracts. The right to legal representation is the bedrock of law. He wants any news organization that doesn't suck up to him barred and/or lose their license (like CBS,etc). 1 4 2 3 5
Popular Post Purdey Posted March 18 Popular Post Posted March 18 They could be terrorists. We will never know for sure because no court declared them as such after seeing all the evidence. No judge or jury found them guilty. 1 1 3 3 8
Popular Post thaibeachlovers Posted March 18 Popular Post Posted March 18 21 minutes ago, Emdog said: You don't get it, do you? I'm not amazed that you don't care about rights of the accused and having your day in court. No one wants them to stay in the US, full stop. The question does arise as to "Why El Salvador?" If any have lawyers, how will they contact the prisoners? Instagram? The concern is for due process and the rule of law. Trump and his minions lack respect for the law and therein lies the danger. Due process would ensure that those that went were the right ones. Trump has no respect for the law: he wants any law firms that provide counsel to his "enemies" to be barred from entering US courts, any contracts. The right to legal representation is the bedrock of law. He wants any news organization that doesn't suck up to him barred and/or lose their license (like CBS,etc). Far as I'm concerned no illegal has ANY rights in the US, and should be deported without delay. In the case of gangbangers a prison in El Salvador is a great option. That country knows how to deal with gangsters. Australia showed how to do it, and good for them. They stopped the boats and the criminals. 2 1 1 6
Popular Post thaibeachlovers Posted March 18 Popular Post Posted March 18 57 minutes ago, JAG said: Under the US immigration rules if they were found to be illegal immigrants they can of course be deported to their countries of origin. They weren't deported to their countries of origin though were they, they were rounded up, without any apparent judicial process, under a dubious application of a 250 year old law, itself intended for use in wartime, and sent post haste to a third country, which it would appear has been paid to take them. There, in that third country, they will be incarcerated in conditions which are internationally condemned. They will be kept, without having been convicted or remanded, for at least a year. No charge, no court hearing, no conviction. They have, effectively, been "disappeared" A legal sanction was available, deport them to Venezuela. Instead they were sent to a third country which is being paid to detain them indefinitely. They may be criminals, but that has to be proven before they are jailed. That is what courts are for. Even as criminals, even as foreigners, even as blood polluting brown people, they have rights. El Salvador and the Trump administration are mocking the courts. I wonder how many, perhaps were legally resident, or even maybe US citizens? We will never know, they have effectively disappeared. Is there even a list of names? I would bet it wouldn't happen if they were white! If they had stayed home they wouldn't be in an El Salvadorean prison. Don't expect sympathy from me. 1 8
Popular Post thaibeachlovers Posted March 18 Popular Post Posted March 18 1 hour ago, JAG said: Instead they were sent to a third country which is being paid to detain them indefinitely. The world is a safer place for it. We thank you for that, Mr Trump. Had they gone to Venezuela they'd be back in the US pretty quickly. 1 1 6
Popular Post Yagoda Posted March 18 Popular Post Posted March 18 If I was illegally in the USA, I would leave. I would never stay illegally anywhere. No thanks. I like my own toilet. 1 3 3
Popular Post lordgrinz Posted March 18 Popular Post Posted March 18 Good riddance! Thank you Mr. President, Job well done! 1 1 4
Popular Post Eloquent pilgrim Posted March 18 Popular Post Posted March 18 Where are the forums usual left-wing suspects squealing about their human rights ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 1 1 3 1
Popular Post thaibeachlovers Posted March 18 Popular Post Posted March 18 5 minutes ago, Eloquent pilgrim said: Where are the forums usual left-wing suspects squealing about their human rights ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ There are a couple on this thread. I wonder if they have any illegals hiding in their house- I suspect not. 2 2
Popular Post Yagoda Posted March 18 Popular Post Posted March 18 50 U.S.C. 21 says, in pertinent part: Whenever there is a declared war between the United States and any foreign nation or government, or any invasion or predatory incursion is perpetrated, attempted, or threatened against the territory of the United States by any foreign nation or government…. I think Trump should make a similar finding on Mexican nationals parading with Mexican flags when they are associated with Socialist organizations, and similarly, those so called students supporting Hamas. We are too lenient. Can you imagine a bunch of masked FARANG kaffiyeh wearers walking around Bangkok with a effigy and signs screaming foul insults towards Thailand? 1 2 4
Popular Post Eloquent pilgrim Posted March 18 Popular Post Posted March 18 Trump: We’re transferring 200 Venezuelan gangsters to El Salvador Judge: You cannot do that. Trump: They’re on the plane; next 1 1 2 1 2
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted March 18 Popular Post Posted March 18 10 minutes ago, Eloquent pilgrim said: Where are the forums usual left-wing suspects squealing about their human rights ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ This isn’t a ‘human right’ issue, it’s a matter of the executive acting above and in flagrant disregard the law. Trump has chosen to do so in deporting foreign criminals in defiance of a court order. He’ll now move to his next edict in disregard of the law and keep going until he’s either stopped or he has completely replaced the rule of law with unchecked executive power. 1 4 4 6
Popular Post GammaGlobulin Posted March 18 Popular Post Posted March 18 On 3/17/2025 at 4:53 AM, Social Media said: Terrorism Confinement Center (Ce How do humans get like this, in the first place? No matter, because, this prison is really a wonderful place for them: Metal bunks without mattress or sheets is a very nice touch, too. And, for a FEE, this prison, and maybe new and yet to be built prisons, can house American prisoners. Sure, Good Idea, because this can be a good moneymaker for that country. Having lost faith in humanity, I really no longer care about what happens to scum like this. Psychopaths and misfits make up only a small fraction of the world's population. They need to be housed apart from the majority, in cages, so that they have no access to human beings, and we who do not appreciate being terrorized. Why didn't they just choose to become lawyers and doctors and Physicists, instead of choosing a life of crime? THIS IS A PLAN...! 3
Chomper Higgot Posted March 18 Posted March 18 5 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said: How do humans get like this, in the first place? No matter, because, this prison is really a wonderful place for them: Metal bunks without mattress or sheets is a very nice touch, too. And, for a FEE, this prison, and maybe new and yet to be built prisons, can house American prisoners. Sure, Good Idea, because this can be a good moneymaker for that country. Having lost faith in humanity, I really no longer care about what happens to scum like this. Psychopaths and misfits make up only a small fraction of the world's population. They need to be housed apart from the majority, in cages, so that they have no access to human beings, and we who do not appreciate being terrorized. Why didn't they just choose to become lawyers and doctors and Physicists, instead of choosing a life of crime? THIS IS A PLAN...! Psychopathy and misfits you say. 2 1 1
Popular Post GammaGlobulin Posted March 18 Popular Post Posted March 18 Just now, Chomper Higgot said: Psychopathy and misfits you say. Also, war criminals, please. 1 1 1
Chomper Higgot Posted March 18 Posted March 18 1 minute ago, GammaGlobulin said: Also, war criminals, please. Or maybe people who criticize Trump. 4
GammaGlobulin Posted March 18 Posted March 18 1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said: Or maybe people who criticize Trump. Too few of those types. Therefore, no need to bother with them. 1
Popular Post Purdey Posted March 18 Popular Post Posted March 18 When people cry out for, even demand, actions to be taken that are illegal, what can you say when you become the victim? That you know your rights? That you will sue the government? That "it ain't fair"? Once started, that train is hard to stop. 2 3
Popular Post JAG Posted March 18 Popular Post Posted March 18 6 hours ago, Eloquent pilgrim said: Where are the forums usual left-wing suspects squealing about their human rights ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 6 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said: There are a couple on this thread. I wonder if they have any illegals hiding in their house- I suspect not. I have, as you both know, posted in opposition to the movement of these people for the purpose of incarceration by a third party. I posted as I believe it is wrong, because they were assembled, rounded up, whatever the phrase used, under a 240 year old law, intended to be used in wartime, and which has been thoroughly discredited. If these people were convicted criminals they should be serving the sentences handed down by the courts which convicted them, and or deported to their country of origin as ordered by the courts. If they are accused of crimes then they should be tried, and if convicted, be imprisoned and or deported. If they are illegally in the USA then they should be brought before the appropriate courts and deported to their country of origin. Those are their human rights. Instead they have been arbitrarily transported, to another country, which will incarcerate them (under pretty savage conditions) for a year or possibly longer, paid for by the US. No court has authorised that arbitrary detention. There appears to have been no judicial involvement, purely an executive order. That order and the process it initiated, when challenged by a court, continued in effect. The judge who intervened said that transporting them was not to happen, and that the flights should return to US. That the flights were in "international airspace" when the order was issued is a particularly feeble excuse to flout the judges order. So their "human rights" have been severely infringed. Human rights are often an inconvenience, and with good reason, they prevent miscarriages of justice. A very dangerous precedent has been set. Presidential fiat is being used to short circuit the law, and ignore the law when it responds. I am not surprised at @thaibeachlovers response, I rather thought that @Eloquent pilgrimwould have had rather more respect for the rule of law - obviously not. I received one other reply, one of the more regularly vituperative posters snarled that I should have been put in the prison with them. That post was removed in short order. It has been a very bad couple of days for the rule of law in the USA. 3 1 1 1 3
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted March 18 Popular Post Posted March 18 2 hours ago, JAG said: I have, as you both know, posted in opposition to the movement of these people for the purpose of incarceration by a third party. I posted as I believe it is wrong, because they were assembled, rounded up, whatever the phrase used, under a 240 year old law, intended to be used in wartime, and which has been thoroughly discredited. If these people were convicted criminals they should be serving the sentences handed down by the courts which convicted them, and or deported to their country of origin as ordered by the courts. If they are accused of crimes then they should be tried, and if convicted, be imprisoned and or deported. If they are illegally in the USA then they should be brought before the appropriate courts and deported to their country of origin. Those are their human rights. Instead they have been arbitrarily transported, to another country, which will incarcerate them (under pretty savage conditions) for a year or possibly longer, paid for by the US. No court has authorised that arbitrary detention. There appears to have been no judicial involvement, purely an executive order. That order and the process it initiated, when challenged by a court, continued in effect. The judge who intervened said that transporting them was not to happen, and that the flights should return to US. That the flights were in "international airspace" when the order was issued is a particularly feeble excuse to flout the judges order. So their "human rights" have been severely infringed. Human rights are often an inconvenience, and with good reason, they prevent miscarriages of justice. A very dangerous precedent has been set. Presidential fiat is being used to short circuit the law, and ignore the law when it responds. I am not surprised at @thaibeachlovers response, I rather thought that @Eloquent pilgrimwould have had rather more respect for the rule of law - obviously not. I received one other reply, one of the more regularly vituperative posters snarled that I should have been put in the prison with them. That post was removed in short order. It has been a very bad couple of days for the rule of law in the USA. And the members here jeering in support of this ignore the historical precedent of what putting a political leader above the rule of law leads to. 2 1 3
Popular Post Woke to Sounds Posted March 19 Popular Post Posted March 19 21 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said: Trump has chosen to do so in deporting foreign criminals Yes, this is the crux of the matter. They are foreign criminals. They are being deported for being foreign criminals residing inside the United States. 1 3
Chomper Higgot Posted March 19 Posted March 19 8 minutes ago, Woke to Sounds said: Yes, this is the crux of the matter. They are foreign criminals. They are being deported for being foreign criminals residing inside the United States. I understand you have difficulty dealing with the point I made but don’t quote me out of context. 3
Popular Post Woke to Sounds Posted March 19 Popular Post Posted March 19 3 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: I understand you have difficulty dealing with the point I made but don’t quote me out of context. Gaslighting as usual. They are foreign criminals. That has been established as fact. Deportation is a logical response because no sane and rational judge would agree that having foreign criminals living inside the United States is a good thing. 1 6
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