Something that this forum doesnt understand about Trump

[transam]

4 hours ago, hotsun said:

Most Americans agree with what hes doing and don’t particularly care what the rest of the world thinks, because the rest of the world doesnt have free elections anymore. Do the facts bother you?

 

freedom comes at a high price, something only an American can understand

Yeh, riiiiiiiiight...............🤣

 

Plus, your thread title needs changing, this is a Thai based forum with members from all over the planet, we are all not sitting in a bar in Key West having a chat........🤭

[RayC]

Just now, hotsun said:

Last i checked you cant post on social media without fear of being locked up, in the uk

 

I'm afraid that you must have landed on one of those misinformation sites then. Your comment is incorrect.

 

A member of the UK public can post whatever they want on social media so long as what is posted does break any laws. 

 

That's how things work throughout the rest of Europe as well.

[hotsun]

6 minutes ago, RayC said:

 

I'm afraid that you must have landed on one of those misinformation sites then. Your comment is incorrect.

 

A member of the UK public can post whatever they want on social media so long as what is posted does break any laws. 

 

That's how things work throughout the rest of Europe as well.

Is criticizing the uk govt breaking the law? Because youre not allowed to do that there

[popel]

14 minutes ago, hotsun said:

No, lefties here are trying to tell me how i regret my decision. The reality is that hes doing everything i wanted

reminds me of the convid times.. 😩

you just couldn't get them to it.

they're desperate to fight for their fake narrative they got pumped in their brain.

because it can't be truth - it's not in the news. "all my news telling me this are just conspiracy guys.." 😂

i gave it up after that. you can't help "them" because they not want it.

their fairytale bubble they live in with their fake finance system would explode. they have to defend it. it's a clown world..

[popel]

15 minutes ago, RayC said:

 

I'm afraid that you must have landed on one of those misinformation sites then. Your comment is incorrect.

 

A member of the UK public can post whatever they want on social media so long as what is posted does break any laws. 

 

That's how things work throughout the rest of Europe as well.

yeah..

take a guess who makes that laws and who decides what is "misinformation" and what is not.

most have not learned anything from the last 5 years. for some "that" was a wake up call. btw.. a post of me were "flagged" when i said the current pm of the UK was the toy boy of jimmy savile.. but he was 🤷🏼‍♂️

[riclag]

1 hour ago, hotsun said:

Hey as long as you think youre free buddy thats all that counts. Wouldnt surprise me if all of europe was like the UK by 2028

Nikita would be proud! Some of Europe is there.

 

 

[popel]

53 minutes ago, gargamon said:

Wow. You make a new user id and respond to your own post. Good job. I guess that's one way to bolster your ego.

 

Do you speak to yourself when you look in a mirror too?

 

I'm this guy btw..

 

https://aseannow.com/profile/13021-lung/

 

you can't imagine how peaceful it is without! all that NPC's around.. 😅

don't know why they all chose LOS 👻

and posting all day long in here 

 

rename the forum again to 

 

"expats that support the current thing"

 

lol.. and out.. for the peace of mind 

sorry to me for got triggered again 🤦‍♂️

 

[worgeordie]

The Trump cultists are now adding Germany to the list of countries they

don't like , adding them to Panama, Canada ,Greenland ,the rest of the EU,

it seems , OK go it alone ,the rest of the World doesn't trust you now , 

Just buddy up to your new friends Russia,Hungry, N Korea ,China ......

 

regards Worgeordie

[josephbloggs]

4 hours ago, riclag said:

He has exposed them all .

 

"I was tired, and I think a lot of other people are tired of watching other people ripping off the United States.  They laugh at us. Behind our backs, they laugh at us because of our own stupidity. 

https://www.npr.org/2017/01/20/510680463/donald-trumps-been-saying-the-same-thing-for-30-years

In case you weren't aware - I know most of you don't think a world exists beyond your borders - but you are being laughed at even more now. The world is laughing. (Well maybe not the poor Ukranians and the children who got flattened in Gaza and Yemen recently).

[bubblegum]

5 hours ago, riclag said:

Once upon a time America got along

with their allies until the Globalist 

came  in with a grand scheme of

pushing & prodding  European countries further eastward .

I dont know whats worse poking Russia& Putin or Flooding western 

civilization with people of other countries who dont want to assimilate 

to their new destinations culture.

Clearly you don't know what Europe is. Little fact: Moscow ls in Europe.

[bubblegum]

4 hours ago, Dan747 said:

"LOL"-Europe does not want to pay their fair share into NATO!!

For your information; No country actually pays anything into NATO.

[jvs]

1 minute ago, bubblegum said:

For your information; No country actually pays anything into NATO.

Yes, and NATO does not expand.

Countries ask if the may join in order to feel safe from being invaded by the Russians mainly.

[BKKKevin]

29 minutes ago, bubblegum said:

For your information; No country actually pays anything into NATO.

You're arguing beyond the average Trump supporter comprehension level... 

 

Once you buy into the Mexico will Pay for the Wall cult things like who pays for NATO and tariffs become irrelevant... 

[Dan O]

6 hours ago, hotsun said:

Most Americans agree with what hes doing and don’t particularly care what the rest of the world thinks, because the rest of the world doesnt have free elections anymore. Do the facts bother you?

 

freedom comes at a high price, something only an American can understand

Define what most Americans means and show us a link to something that supports your claim as the recent polls show otherwise

[stupidfarang]

6 hours ago, hotsun said:

Do you think germany has free elections, friend?

well musk the rat tried to swing the vote with money but failed and yes they do have free elections, 

[Rob Browder]

6 hours ago, Ben Zioner said:

The were let in legally by the previous government, in a stable democracy you don't brutally undo everything the predecessor has done. 

 

The US has become become very unstable now, probably doomed.

Sending people back to their own homeland, where their people are the majority, is "brutal" - but not doing that, and thereby sentencing your own country and its people to destruction, is not "brutal"?

 

My criticism of Trump, is he refuses to do anything meaningful to send back the foreigners who flooded-in.  The overwhelming majority of those are kept in the country by employers who pay them, who are never prosecuted under existing felony law for employing illegal foreigners.   What he is doing - in his 1st term, and continuing now - is the policy he correctly ridiculed during his 2016 campaign speeches.  

 

This policy of non-enforcement is the primary reason wages have not kept pace with inflation, and 1/2 of the American people have lived "hand to mouth" during multiple administrations.  If the USA is "doomed," this is the primary cause - the 2nd cause being the non-stop deficit spending on wars.  This continues regardless of which uni-party functionary is "chosen" on the ballot, so there is no real "choice" in USA elections.

[Rob Browder]

27 minutes ago, jvs said:

Yes, and NATO does not expand.

Countries ask if the may join in order to feel safe from being invaded by the Russians mainly.

So, what did James Baker III mean, when he promised Gorby that NATO would not move "one inch" beyond a then-newly-reunited Germany?

 

The only reason a nation would fear being invaded by Russia, is if they were coup'd by the CIA (Nuland admitted $5-Billion spent on this - caught on-tape), began persecuting their ~1/3 ethnic-Russian population (shelling those who refused to bend the knee), and offered themselves up as a "minutes to Moscow" missile-base, after the USA withdrew from the intermediate-range missile treaty (INF).  Ukraine hit the trifecta.  Then, they violated the Minsk peace agreements, which followed.

 

Likewise, Mexico could "choose" to join a CCP military-alliance and host China's missiles, in theory, but I don't think that would go over very well in DC.

[PattayaParent]

6 hours ago, hotsun said:

The burden of proof is the rest of the world to prove now. The US at this point of time is the only country with free elections until proven otherwise 

 

That would depend on how you define free elections.

 

You don't have to pay to vote? Yes, they're free.

 

One person, one vote and all get counted equally? Oh, not so free then after all.

[Cameroni]

5 minutes ago, Rob Browder said:

So, what did James Baker III mean, when he promised Gorby that NATO would not move "one inch" beyond a then-newly-reunited Germany?

 

The only reason a nation would fear being invaded by Russia, is if they were coup'd by the CIA (Nuland admitted $5-Billion spent on this - caught on-tape), began persecuting their ~1/3 ethnic-Russian population (shelling those who refused to bend the knee), and offered themselves up as a "minutes to Moscow" missile-base, after the USA withdrew from the intermediate-range missile treaty (INF).  Ukraine hit the trifecta.  Then, they violated the Minsk peace agreements, which followed.

 

Likewise, Mexico could "choose" to join a CCP military-alliance and host China's missiles, in theory, but I don't think that would go over very well in DC.

 

It wasn't about that though. NATO KNEW full well that Russia's stratgegic defence  is hampered by the great European plain. As long as Russia controlled Ukraine it controlled virtually the whole entry point of the European plain. However, NATO encroaching ever more eastward actually meant Russia became impossible to defend due to its location on the European plain. So if a nation has to fear being invaded by Russia now, then because Russia is concerned about her own defense and security.

[Rob Browder]

2 hours ago, RayC said:

A member of the UK public can post whatever they want on social media so long as what is posted does break any laws. 

... where the "law" says you must NOT talk about obvious patterns of behavior, and the harm done as a result.  It's straight out of Orwell's 1984.

 

Granted, a "limited" version of similar is being attempted in the USA, currently - so we aren't far behind.  Once one "category" is protected, others will be added, until free-speech is dead.  But, per current court-rulings, the only "legal" limit on written-speech is making believable (vs joke / non-actionable) threats.

[Hamus Yaigh]

7 hours ago, hotsun said:

Most Americans agree with what hes doing and don’t particularly care what the rest of the world thinks, because the rest of the world doesnt have free elections anymore. Do the facts bother you?

What bothers me is why you are even here. This forum is called Asean Now not America Now?

[RayC]

2 hours ago, hotsun said:

Is criticizing the uk govt breaking the law? Because youre not allowed to do that there

 

I'm afraid that once again you are the victim of being fed misinformation

 

Criticising the UK government is absolutely allowed. Indeed, one might sometimes think of it as a national sport.

 

If proof is needed, you could look at the websites for any of the following (amongst many others): Daily Telegraph, D. Mail, D. Express, GB News. These sites regularly criticise the UK government, often when there isn't actually anything to criticise. To the best of my knowledge, none of the journalists associated with these sites have been arrested for their criticism.

[jvs]

11 minutes ago, Rob Browder said:

So, what did James Baker III mean, when he promised Gorby that NATO would not move "one inch" beyond a then-newly-reunited Germany?

 

The only reason a nation would fear being invaded by Russia, is if they were coup'd by the CIA (Nuland admitted $5-Billion spent on this - caught on-tape), began persecuting their ~1/3 ethnic-Russian population (shelling those who refused to bend the knee), and offered themselves up as a "minutes to Moscow" missile-base, after the USA withdrew from the intermediate-range missile treaty (INF).  Ukraine hit the trifecta.  Then, they violated the Minsk peace agreements, which followed.

 

Likewise, Mexico could "choose" to join a CCP military-alliance and host China's missiles, in theory, but I don't think that would go over very well in DC.

Yes there is a lot of talk about who or what is wrong or right.

A little bit of back ground.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controversy_regarding_the_legitimacy_of_eastward_NATO_expansion

[Cameroni]

1 minute ago, RayC said:

 

I'm afraid that once again you are the victim of being fed misinformation

 

Criticising the UK government is absolutely allowed. Indeed, one might sometimes think of it as a national sport.

 

If proof is needed, you could look at the websites for any of the following (amongst many others): Daily Telegraph, D. Mail, D. Express, GB News. These sites regularly criticise the UK government, often when there isn't actually anything to criticise. To the best of my knowledge, none of the journalists associated with these sites have been arrested for their criticism.

 

My God I miss Paxman.

 

Now that was a journalist.

[Rob Browder]

3 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

It wasn't about that though. NATO KNEW full well that Russia's stratgegic defence  is hampered by the great European plain. As long as Russia controlled Ukraine it controlled virtually the whole entry point of the European plain. However, NATO encroaching ever more eastward actually meant Russia became impossible to defend due to its location on the European plain. So if a nation has to fear being invaded by Russia now, then because Russia is concerned about her own defense and security.

A neural border zone, especially one the size of Ukraine, would seem to be a sensible compromise.  All the government of Ukraine needed to do, was respect the human-rights and cultures of the groups in Ukraine, and don't be a foreign-proxy - either for Russia or Euro/USA.

[RayC]

2 hours ago, popel said:

yeah..

take a guess who makes that laws and who decides what is "misinformation" and what is not.

most have not learned anything from the last 5 years. for some "that" was a wake up call. btw.. a post of me were "flagged" when i said the current pm of the UK was the toy boy of jimmy savile.. but he was 🤷🏼‍♂️

 

Although constitutions and electoral systems differ throughout Europe, broadly speaking it is governments who propose laws and parliament which pass them. This link explains the process in the UK:

 

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/legislative-process-taking-a-bill-through-parliament#:~:text=A bill is a proposed,Parliament can introduce a bill.

 

The government does not decide what is misinformation, the veracity of the statement will decide that. For example, @Hotsun stated that you cannot criticise the UK government. That is factually incorrect; it is misinformation to suggest that it is true.

 

If you have any evidence to support your contention that Keir Starmer was the 'toy boy' of Jimmy Saville, then I'm sure that I'm not alone in wishing to see it.

[Cameroni]

12 minutes ago, Rob Browder said:

A neural border zone, especially one the size of Ukraine, would seem to be a sensible compromise.  All the government of Ukraine needed to do, was respect the human-rights and cultures of the groups in Ukraine, and don't be a foreign-proxy - either for Russia or Euro/USA.

 

I completely agree, Russia needs the Ukraine as a buffer to safeguard entry to the European plain so it has a chance of self defense. We need to give Russia this small gift to assuage their justifiably irritated nerves.

[candide]

3 hours ago, hotsun said:

Is criticizing the uk govt breaking the law? Because youre not allowed to do that there

What a dumb statement! Is it you, Bignok? 🤣

[Felton Jarvis]

7 hours ago, hotsun said:

Prove it.

you cant.

you know how i can prove america does?

because trump won!

A masterpiece of circular reasoning. Seek help.

[Rob Browder]

3 hours ago, seajae said:

removing all their graft & corruption through DOGE, they are being exposed for what they really are.

Is that why Trump pushed the Continuing-Resolution which continues funding for all that graft and corruption - attacked Thomas Massie for opposing it / threatened to "primary" him** - but does not criticize the Senate Rs who voted against removing that already-identified graft/corruption spending from the CR?

 

Trump is being his usual Big Disappointment, again.  But, all the "other party" (sic) has to do, is act even more crazy, and the good-cop/bad-cop tag-team keeps the Uniparty game alive.

 

** (For the 2nd time - 1st was the "CARES Act" which funded "drop box" voting, and began the destruction of the economy + wrecking the value of the dollar with massive deficit-spending.  All that, to "lock down" the country over an infection which all evidence to date at that time, and since, indicated was only dangerous to those who were very old and/or sick.)