US ‘deletes evidence’ of Russia’s kidnap of thousands of Ukrainian children

[bannork]

3 hours ago, johng said:

 

Seems your spellchecker has gone cuckoo  but I ass-u-me   tonight = denying ?

anyway..

No one denies the children where taken,  taken away from a war zone to a safe place  where is the crime in that ?

Here is the crime in that:

Child abductions in the Russo-Ukrainian War - Wikipedia

During the Russo-Ukrainian War,^[3] Russia has forcibly transferred almost 20 thousand Ukrainian children to areas under its control, assigned them Russian citizenship, forcibly adopted them into Russian families, and created obstacles for their reunification with their parents and homeland.^[7][8] The United Nations has stated that these deportations constitute war crimes.^[8][9] 

[johng]

Wikipedia  yeah right 🤣    lets wait and see what happens with these

supposed "war crimes"   and compare them to actual massacres and forced relocation of women, children,doctors,nurses,journalists in "another" ongoing conflict.

[johng]

On 3/19/2025 at 8:38 PM, placeholder said:

And why do you think the Russians are talking to him? Because they believe he is an honest broker?

 

Because the previous Whitehouse occupier would not talk under any circumstance ?

[johng]

On 3/20/2025 at 1:18 PM, billd766 said:

He cannot delete stuff that is already freely available on the internet,

 

I have noticed...  since I started taking notice that quite a lot  does actually "disappear from the internet"  also there is a lot more that is memory holed

ie: it's still there but takes a hell of a search to find..

I am grateful that sites like archive.org and thewaybackmachine  are still in operation   even though they cannot archive everything.

 

[spidermike007]

On 3/20/2025 at 1:18 PM, billd766 said:

The problem with all this for Trump is that he can only delete stuff in the USA.

 

He cannot delete stuff that is already freely available on the internet, as many other people may well have downloaded it already, and that will be totally outside his control.

Don't be so sure of that. I saw dozens of entries about Trump dalliances with underage gals and articles about sexual assault related to him prior to 2015, in addition to countless articles about the lawsuits he was involved in with small contractors, once he announced his candidacy most of those just disappeared from Google.

 

Was that just some sort of magic or voodoo, or the power of the deep state? Those villains are neither Democrat nor Republican, they choose a candidate, back him, and all sorts of magic and shenanigans happen. 

[placeholder]

19 hours ago, johng said:

 

Because the previous Whitehouse occupier would not talk under any circumstance ?

Stop making things up

Putin turns down Biden talks and defends Russian attacks on Ukraine's energy grid

https://www.npr.org/2022/12/02/1140278989/putin-turns-down-biden-talks-ukraine-war

[johng]

From your report above

 

[tandor]

I'm sure the families of the children abducted have sufficient evidence to start a Class Action.

[CanadaSam]

On 3/20/2025 at 9:15 AM, johng said:

why would the department delete evidence of an alleged war crime ?

 

Because Putin does not want to be tried in an international court and jailed, and asked his buddy to do the needful?

[billd766]

On 3/21/2025 at 6:32 PM, spidermike007 said:

Don't be so sure of that. I saw dozens of entries about Trump dalliances with underage gals and articles about sexual assault related to him prior to 2015, in addition to countless articles about the lawsuits he was involved in with small contractors, once he announced his candidacy most of those just disappeared from Google.

 

Was that just some sort of magic or voodoo, or the power of the deep state? Those villains are neither Democrat nor Republican, they choose a candidate, back him, and all sorts of magic and shenanigans happen. 

Well to delete anything on my pc, they would have to identify it  from the millions of other pc around the world, hack into it and then delete the contents. And then they would have to do the same for every other pc in the world, followed by every tablet, smartphone and storage device, on or offline, cloud based or not.

[johng]

14 hours ago, CanadaSam said:

 

Because Putin does not want to be tried in an international court and jailed, and asked his buddy to do the needful?

 

Thanks for the new "conspiracy theory"    you know of course that the US does not recognise the international court  and that they recently  sanctioned judges

not for the first time either.

 

There is even a standing order that if any American is ever dragged to the Hague

they reserve the right to use military force to retrieve such individual !!

 

From that very reliable and trusted source BBC

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-54003527

 

Secretary of State Mike Pompeo accused the court of "illegitimate attempts to subject Americans to its jurisdiction".

The Hague-based ICC is currently investigating whether US forces committed war crimes in Afghanistan.

The US has criticised the court since its foundation and is one of a dozen states which have not signed up.

Balkees Jarrah, senior counsel at the non-governmental organisation Human Rights Watch, condemned the sanctions as a "shameful new low for US commitments to justice for victims of the worst crimes".

Mr Pompeo's move marked a "stunning perversion of US sanctions, devised to penalize rights abusers and kleptocrats, to target those prosecuting war crimes", she tweeted.

[spidermike007]

5 hours ago, billd766 said:

Well to delete anything on my pc, they would have to identify it  from the millions of other pc around the world, hack into it and then delete the contents. And then they would have to do the same for every other pc in the world, followed by every tablet, smartphone and storage device, on or offline, cloud based or not.

Sure that would apply if you already saved it on your PC, but it would certainly not apply to a database like Google, which is easily manipulated by money and power. 

[johng]

1 hour ago, spidermike007 said:

Sure that would apply if you already saved it on your PC, but it would certainly not apply to a database like Google,

 

Agreed without Google its very hard to find stuff in the internet..and then there is the issue of if you have the information to share  but no-one is willing to host that information on their servers ...sure  you can set up/host your own website   but if said info is "controversial" it will attract in short order all sorts of unwanted attention  hacking,DDOS and legal threats.

[frank83628]

How can they delete evidence that didn't exist

[placeholder]

59 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

How can they delete evidence that didn't exist

It looks like this form has its own version of Alex Jones.

[johng]

4 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Alex Jones.

 

Alex Jones is great and still on air despite being fined 100 bizzilion dollars for "hurty words"  !!!

[xylophone]

2 hours ago, johng said:

 

Alex Jones is great and still on air despite being fined 100 bizzilion dollars for "hurty words"  !!!

He should have been locked up.....complete and utter scumbag.

[johng]

9 minutes ago, xylophone said:

He should have been locked up.....complete and utter scumbag.

 

Locked up for what ???

[xylophone]

41 minutes ago, johng said:

 

Locked up for what ???

In some jurisdictions, you can be jailed for defamation, particularly if the statements are malicious, false, and cause harm, though it's more common to face civil penalties like damages. 

 

Jones had falsely claimed the attack that left more than two dozen people dead, including 20 children, was a hoax, and accused a grieving parent of being an actor in the days after the murders. A Texas jury awarded nearly $50 million in a separate damages trial this summer.

 

Victims’ families who sued Jones said they were subjected to years of torment, threats and abuse by people who believed the lies told on his show. One father said conspiracy theorists urinated on his 7-year-old son’s grave and threatened to dig up the coffin.

 

The man is a POS and I hope that once his assets have been liquidated he still doesn't have enough to settle the claims, so off to prison he goes. I live in hope.

[johng]

5 hours ago, xylophone said:

Victims’ families who sued Jones said they were subjected to years of torment, threats and abuse by people who believed the lies told on his show. One father said conspiracy theorists urinated on his 7-year-old son’s grave and threatened to dig up the coffin.

 

Why did the "victims" not sue the person urinating on graves..or even better the man who actually killed their kids  Adam Lanza   and why is an FBI agent awarded hurty feeling money  for doing his job...I'll not get into the show trail and struggle session they put Alex Jones through  I hope/think he'll fight this to the supreme court   lets wait and see.

[xylophone]

2 hours ago, johng said:

 

Why did the "victims" not sue the person urinating on graves..or even better the man who actually killed their kids  Adam Lanza   and why is an FBI agent awarded hurty feeling money  for doing his job...I'll not get into the show trail and struggle session they put Alex Jones through  I hope/think he'll fight this to the supreme court   lets wait and see.

Sad man.........Alex Jones lied and caused pain, anguish and distress to the grieving families concerned and that man is a disgusting POS and anyone who supports him is likewise.

[placeholder]

18 hours ago, johng said:

 

Alex Jones is great and still on air despite being fined 100 bizzilion dollars for "hurty words"  !!!

If "herty words" equals "pathological lying", then you have a point

 

Connecticut jury orders Alex Jones to pay nearly $1 billion to Sandy Hook families

The award is the largest the Texas conspiracy theorist has been ordered to pay as part of three defamation lawsuits against him for falsely claiming that the 2012 school shooting in Newtown, Connecticut, was a hoax.

https://www.texastribune.org/2022/10/12/alex-jones-sandy-hook-shooting/

[thesetat]

On 3/19/2025 at 7:33 PM, worgeordie said:

Will the MAGA cult be on here to defend , the undefendable , they are children....

 

regards worgeordie

The problem is that the OP twists the words to satisfy the Trump haters. The US government did not delete the info about the kids. If it got deleted is was done by the University. Blamed on the budget cuts. budget cuts do not delete data. 

Now, I am confused, there is a court and a place that collects war crime data that is not paid for in budgeting by the US. It is called the ICC. It is not Yale or any other group that is responsible for this. So why was the OP twisted to blame Trump? The ICC has their own data for these actions. Also, why is it the American taxpayers responsibility to pay for this? Ukraine can ask for funding and they are the ones who should be keeping records of missing children. As cold as it seems, millions of children go missing around the world yearly. But, the US taxpayers are not responsible for paying the bill to keep records of them all. Or for finding them. that is up to each individual country.