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So I watched Andrew Tate, obviously a rich man and most searched name on google etc, and I find this guy very hard to call. A lot of what he says sounds plausible, but then some of the things he says just seem, well "off".

 

Does Andrew Tate make sense to you or not? By the way I don't want to get into his criminal case, I am not into that, I am looking at this purely from his advice for men and philosophy.

 

What say you? Thoughts?

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34 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

So I watched Andrew Tate, obviously a rich man and most searched name on google etc, and I find this guy very hard to call. A lot of what he says sounds plausible, but then some of the things he says just seem, well "off".

 

Does Andrew Tate make sense to you or not? By the way I don't want to get into his criminal case, I am not into that, I am looking at this purely from his advice for men and philosophy.

 

What say you? Thoughts?

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39 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

Seems like a clown to me.

 

'He definitely has that show man, performer, vibe and it does look like it tempts him to say some things that shoot beyond reason.

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IMHO, a lot of what he says is true.  But the manner in which he encourages young teen boys to implement his beliefs is downright dangerous, and exploits their naivety. You can be a strong and confident young man without 'knocking' or controlling women...

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In one aspect he seems like a sort of evolution of that pick-up artist culture that was popular 20 years ago - he even seems to have taken on the style and appearance of Neil Strauss who wrote The Game. Not sure if the whole approach has aged so well, but the book was an interesting and entertaining read and the author was quite smart and likeable. Tate is somewhat more obnoxious and morally dubious, and has thrown politics and other things into the mix, but a lot of It's quite similar.

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27 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

I very much doubt any of the old codgers here have any clue about him other that what their headlines tell them

Personally, I agree with some things, neutral on others, and disagree on others fair play to him, self made multi millionaire and world famous,  as opposed to old bitter decrepit nobodies here with nothing better to so than moan about more sucessful people

 

Yes a lot of what he says is apparently founded on good experience and makes sense, but then he has a tendency to say other things where you think, "wait a minute, really?". But yes, he is obviously very successful and looks like still has enormous influence.

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21 minutes ago, simon43 said:

IMHO, a lot of what he says is true.  But the manner in which he encourages young teen boys to implement his beliefs is downright dangerous, and exploits their naivety. You can be a strong and confident young man without 'knocking' or controlling women...

 

I do agree a lot of it makes sense, in particular when it comes to women. I think he does not advocate "controlling" them. For instance if she wants to go out with her guy friends he would advise to not just prohibit but to suggest that you can do that, but if you do, I would not be interested in you as much. 

 

Setting boundaries kind of thing. I have never seen him advocate knocking or slapping women, the way Sean Connery did for instance.

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Tate is a clown and way out of line... toxic man for sure. You could always just shag lots of women without the nonsense, and just enjoy it... rather than making it negative/violent etc. or whatever. No need to be a Richard about it.

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I never heard of the Tate brothers until their arrest in Romania. Never watched anything before that. Quite clear the the UK authorities don't like him. Andrew seems to talk a lot of sense, but also, he's got a lot of accusations against him. The MSM hate him by the look of it. "Toxic Masculinity" is a phrase that seems to be used when he's mentioned. There was a series of interviews on Patrick Bet David's Valuetainment YouTube a couple of weeks ago. Quite interesting to listen to. I'm not sure about how wealthy he really is, but, he appears to be a worry to many as being influential.

  

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5 minutes ago, lamyai3 said:

In one aspect he seems like a sort of evolution of that pick-up artist culture that was popular 20 years ago - he even seems to have taken on the style and appearance of Neil Strauss who wrote The Game. Not sure if the whole approach has aged so well, but the book was an interesting and entertaining read and the author was quite smart and likeable. Tate is somewhat more obnoxious and morally dubious, and has thrown politics and other things into the mix, but a lot of It's quite similar.

 

Yah, I think a lot of that came from his enormous wealth and ubiquitous internet presence which made him a lot more influential than Strauss ever was, certainly more present in the news.

 

There are definitely parallels between The Game and how Andrew Tate advocates dealing with women. I think a key difference is that Andrew Tate et al advocate that you need to be financially successful to have women. Whereas for Neil Strauss it was more about techniques and not so much wealth.

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1 minute ago, soi3eddie said:

I never heard of the Tate brothers until their arrest in Romania. Never watched anything before that. Quite clear the the UK authorities don't like him. Andrew seems to talk a lot of sense, but also, he's got a lot of accusations against him. The MSM hate him by the look of it. "Toxic Masculinity" is a phrase that seems to be used when he's mentioned. There was a series of interviews on Patrick Bet David's Valuetainment YouTube a couple of weeks ago. Quite interesting to listen to. I'm not sure about how wealthy he really is, but, he appears to be a worry to many as being influential.

  

 

It says online that Tate has a net worth of around 380 million USD, which is enormous. He is very visible online, and so still commands a lot of attention.

 

He does talk a lot of sense, but it strikes me that he has a "gangster" mentality. To him being a gangster is a good thing, and he would do anything to further his cause. Including lying, which makes you a bit circumspect when you listen to him. But he does speak the truth a lot, no doubt about it,.

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24 minutes ago, proton said:

Did he really convert to islam? if so a obvious moron.

 

I did not know this, but I looked it up and it looks like he did convert to Islam. Maybe to have the 4 wives?

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1 hour ago, Cameroni said:

 

So I watched Andrew Tate, obviously a rich man and most searched name on google etc, and I find this guy very hard to call. A lot of what he says sounds plausible, but then some of the things he says just seem, well "off".

 

Does Andrew Tate make sense to you or not? By the way I don't want to get into his criminal case, I am not into that, I am looking at this purely from his advice for men and philosophy.

 

What say you? Thoughts?

Says a lot, listening to scum like that. Of course you don't want to get into his criminal case.

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Dunno. A lot of this going around. Trump and Rogan appeal to the misguided numbskull patriots. Tate appeals to the incels and misogynists. Musk appeals to the uneducated losers who wish they were rich, but never will be.

 

The internet - the once great innovation that would bring mankind together - is now just a bully pulpit. The louder and more profane one screams to get attention the more they get it seems. That's why it's proliferating with guys like this. So no, that's my answer.

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I think that you have to remember that whatever he says, he is doing so in order to present himself in a certain way, so that doesn't mean that he is necessarily being completely honest.  He's essentially presenting a sort of brand image whenever he speaks.

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1 hour ago, simon43 said:

IMHO, a lot of what he says is true.  But the manner in which he encourages young teen boys to implement his beliefs is downright dangerous, and exploits their naivety. You can be a strong and confident young man without 'knocking' or controlling women...

Have you watched full episode's ? Its not dagerous if you have a brain, but he's no different to the MSM if you want to talk brainwashing, MSM sanctioned world wide, Tate... persecuted by the same MSM for having a different opinion

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I saw a funny article the other day about a journalist asking an African farmer his opinion about women taking leadership positions and getting equal rights in the West.  The farmer laughed and simply replied "It won't work, everything will fall apart.  Women operate on emotions, not logic."

 

Tate is right on the money.  Muslims have not made the gigantic mistake that the West did.  A woman is not equal to a man, never has been, never will be.  Her most productive fertile years are 18 to 25.  Women should not be wasting time at university diddling the football team or starting a career.  They should be finding a husband and starting a family prior to hitting the wall.

 

The plunging marriage and birth stats speak volumes.  Our Western countries are disintegrating before our eyes.

 

The Holy Bible lays out the perfect setup for a nation to prosper.  And the catastrophic results of moving away from this system are playing out before our eyes.  Westerners claim our way to be superior, but the Muslim birth stats and marriage rates are clearly showing they are right and we are wrong.  

 

 

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2 hours ago, BangkokReady said:

I think that you have to remember that whatever he says, he is doing so in order to present himself in a certain way, so that doesn't mean that he is necessarily being completely honest.  He's essentially presenting a sort of brand image whenever he speaks.

 

I think that is correct. He is very aware of his own persona. And this is what disturbs me a bit because it seems to seduce him into making certain statements that seem just wrong. I will give you an example. In one of his interviews he says a lot of profound and clearly true things about how men have to develop themselves and he finishes with the senetence "Eventually you achieve that echelon of man where men are never left by women".

 

Now clearly he said that in order to portray himself in a certain way, women would never leave me because my net worth is 370 mllion USD. However, when you consider that Elvis Presley, Johnny Depp, Cary Grant, Tom Chambers, Frank Sinatra, all were cheated on or had their spouse levave them, then it is plain to see that this statement by Tate is just not true. He was seduced into saying something in the spur of the moment, based on how he wanted to present himself. This is problematic, because you have to then doubt a lot of things he says.

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