Who's still thinking of buying a high rise condo after the earthquake?

[StandardIssue]

Now that this earthquake has hit it appears that many of the Bangkok high rise buildings have been structurally compromised and no longer sound. 

 

The superstructure of the buildings has been weakened as evidenced by the many videos showing foundation cracks and structure damage throughout the buildings. As per the usual Thai response to such things, it is more than likely the structures will not be reinforced to original tolerances but the cracks and damage simply smoothed over and hidden. In the event of another earthquake, high wind event or other phenomenon some buildings may not survive and suffer the fate of the Chatuchak Park construction site.

 

Are you still considering a condo purchase after the earthquake and why, now that the structures are compromised.

 

Me? No!!

[Celsius]

A desperate condo owner gave you a grumpy emoticon.

[josephbloggs]

19 minutes ago, StandardIssue said:

Now that this earthquake has hit it appears that many of the Bangkok high rise buildings have been structurally compromised and no longer sound. 

 

The superstructure of the buildings has been weakened as evidenced by the many videos showing foundation cracks and structure damage throughout the buildings. As per the usual Thai response to such things, it is more than likely the structures will not be reinforced to original tolerances but the cracks and damage simply smoothed over and hidden. In the event of another earthquake, high wind event or other phenomenon some buildings may not survive and suffer the fate of the Chatachak construction site.

 

Are you still considering buying? Me? No!!

Can you share some links to these videos showing structural damage or "superstructure damage" of the many high rise buildings that have been weakened? (Aside from the six that were declared unsafe by the BMA).

[StandardIssue]

14 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

Can you share some links to these videos showing structural damage or "superstructure damage" of buildings that have been weakened? (Aside from the six that were declared unsafe by the BMA).

Who actually, with any reliability and confidence, could assess all Bangkok high rise buildings for structural soundness in two/three days? If you believe this is possible then I've got a bridge in ..... to sell you.  It often takes weeks for civil engineers to evaluate a single entire building in the west.  Part of the problem IHMO is this snap declaration that all but 6 buildings are OK according to some local institution with vested interests in not uncovering a wide spread issue.

[richard_smith237]

48 minutes ago, StandardIssue said:

Who actually, with any reliability and confidence, could assess all Bangkok high rise buildings for structural soundness in two/three days? If you believe this is possible then I've got a bridge in ..... to sell you.  It often takes weeks for civil engineers to evaluate a single entire building in the west.  Part of the problem IHMO is this snap declaration that all but 6 buildings are OK according to some local institution with vested interests in not uncovering a wide spread issue.

 

Who would assume after one day... all buildings had been assessed and then make a judgement.

 

6 have been classified so far...  more to come... 

 

Use your brain... .

[connda]

8 hours ago, StandardIssue said:

Now that this earthquake has hit it appears that many of the Bangkok high rise buildings have been structurally compromised and no longer sound. 

 

The superstructure of the buildings has been weakened as evidenced by the many videos showing foundation cracks and structure damage throughout the buildings. As per the usual Thai response to such things, it is more than likely the structures will not be reinforced to original tolerances but the cracks and damage simply smoothed over and hidden. In the event of another earthquake, high wind event or other phenomenon some buildings may not survive and suffer the fate of the Chatuchak Park construction site.

 

Are you still considering a condo purchase after the earthquake and why, now that the structures are compromised.

 

Me? No!!

My guess is that a lot of building throughout Thailand are structurally compromised now.  But TIT, it will be glossed over with brown envelops handed out to engineering inspectors.  However, when the next major quake hits, my guess is that quite a few high-rises will be collapsing in their own footprints.

"Don't worry about that cracks in the high-rise condos - trust us, it's only cosmetic. Slap a little plaster and paint over it and good as new!"

[connda]

8 hours ago, StandardIssue said:

Now that this earthquake has hit it appears that many of the Bangkok high rise buildings have been structurally compromised and no longer sound. 

 

The superstructure of the buildings has been weakened as evidenced by the many videos showing foundation cracks and structure damage throughout the buildings. As per the usual Thai response to such things, it is more than likely the structures will not be reinforced to original tolerances but the cracks and damage simply smoothed over and hidden. In the event of another earthquake, high wind event or other phenomenon some buildings may not survive and suffer the fate of the Chatuchak Park construction site.

 

Are you still considering a condo purchase after the earthquake and why, now that the structures are compromised.

 

Me? No!!

I have two houses on a rai of land.  Who wants a condo?

[RUSirius]

On the earthquake thread I was very skeptical about condos being checked. I'd swore I'd never buy especially after quake. That's still true - but I read in the post that Thailand does apparently have thousands of engineers that could and have already inspected buildings. I look about a lot of the cheap structures in my BKK neighborhood and don't see damage. I think my comments were a bit negative, cynical assuming the story correct.

 

Very disappointed I couldn't make simple calls, Line was down. Government sent no instruction to public. I really had hope about this latest government, but I'm so disappointed. But hey... Thailand is getting casinos and online gambling 👍👍 for the poor to offload their pittances to the Chinese and Sino Thai.

 

🙄

[KhunLA]

15 minutes ago, connda said:

I have two houses on a rai of land.  Who wants a condo?

Agree, and really are silly priced per m².   Good for those without a trusting partner, or simply wish to remain single.  A pool with no maintenance worries would be nice.

 

I'm not neighbor friendly, so not even a consideration.  I also need a proper kitchen, which is as large as some condos.

[Ralf001]

8 hours ago, StandardIssue said:

Who's still thinking of buying a high rise condo after the earthquake?

 

I'll buy a couple if they are going cheap enough.

[RUSirius]

18 minutes ago, connda said:

I have two houses on a rai of land.  Who wants a condo?

 

The people that don't want to live in the mud surrounded by poor people, thievery and meth heads??

 

The people that want to actually own what they've purchased?

[RUSirius]

Just now, KhunLA said:

really are silly priced per m².

 

Condo prices are ridiculously poor value. Then you have taxes, transfer and assoc fees. The bottom end is dropping. I see same condos advertised for years.

 

Most condos cost less than half to rent over buying. Yeah, in the end you have the asset .. after decades and what is that worth??

 

There are SO many problems with these condo as well. Not only the typical, but totally random one off stuff as well much do to poor build, quality

[KhunLA]

1 minute ago, Ralf001 said:

 

I'll buy a couple if they are going cheap enough.

I wouldn't mind one at Krung Thep, as hotel prices have skyrocketed, and visiting the kid gets expensive, just for a day visit and nice munch out, on her days off.  

 

Aside from the 300 km drive, one way.

 

Something under 1M, with no amenities, so low maintenance fees.  Should be some nice sales coming up soon.

[RUSirius]

2 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

I wouldn't mind one at Krung Thep, as hotel prices have skyrocketed, and visiting the kid gets expensive, just for a day visit and nice munch out, on her days off.  

 

Aside from the 300 km drive, one way.

 

Something under 1M, with no amenities, so low maintenance fees.  Should be some nice sales coming up soon.

 

Under 1M will be a slum. Even outside central BKK and we'll away from transit lines. Prolly Bangna lots of cheapies. Air is horrible out there. BTS gets slummy after onnut which is not so special either

[ChipButty]

Sales of condo's will be coming down, 

[RUSirius]

3 minutes ago, ChipButty said:

Sales of condo's will be coming down, 

 

No they won't unless it's Chinese, foreign capitulation. Thais refuse to take a loss. They're still on the hook for short sale. There's no tax deduction for losses. They'll sit on it until the condo inflates to such a degree the price is acceptable.

[CallumWK]

7 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

Who would assume after one day... all buildings had been assessed and then make a judgement.

 

 

This Thaier than thai guy

 

8 hours ago, josephbloggs said:

Can you share some links to these videos showing structural damage or "superstructure damage" of the many high rise buildings that have been weakened? (Aside from the six that were declared unsafe by the BMA).

 

[hotsun]

Everyones reacting to the recent and forgetting about what thailand is all about on the ground floor, smog and flood water

[MalcolmB]

Yes I would buy one of the hundreds of well built condos that have have now proven to be earthquake proof. 

[BangkokReady]

9 hours ago, StandardIssue said:

Who actually, with any reliability and confidence, could assess all Bangkok high rise buildings for structural soundness in two/three days? If you believe this is possible then I've got a bridge in ..... to sell you.  It often takes weeks for civil engineers to evaluate a single entire building in the west.  Part of the problem IHMO is this snap declaration that all but 6 buildings are OK according to some local institution with vested interests in not uncovering a wide spread issue.

 

LOL.

 

"I know for a fact that many high rise buildings in Bangkok have been weakened by the earthquake and are now unsafe."

 

"How could you possibly know that high rise buildings are safe?"

 

Have a think about what you are saying...  🙄

[josephbloggs]

10 hours ago, StandardIssue said:

Who actually, with any reliability and confidence, could assess all Bangkok high rise buildings for structural soundness in two/three days? If you believe this is possible then I've got a bridge in ..... to sell you.  It often takes weeks for civil engineers to evaluate a single entire building in the west.  Part of the problem IHMO is this snap declaration that all but 6 buildings are OK according to some local institution with vested interests in not uncovering a wide spread issue.

Are you schizophrenic? That's the complete opposite of what you claimed earlier, you know, the nonsense that I replied to.
 

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Now that this earthquake has hit it appears that many of the Bangkok high rise buildings have been structurally compromised and no longer sound. 

 

The superstructure of the buildings has been weakened as evidenced by the many videos showing foundation cracks and structure damage throughout the buildings. 

I asked you where are the videos of these buildings that are structurally damaged and have weakened superstructures. Your reply is that there has been no assessment. So why make the claim if you just made it up?

[josephbloggs]

1 hour ago, CallumWK said:

 

 

This Thaier than thai guy

 

 

Thaier than Thai (whatever that means) for calling out lies. He said there are videos showing structurally weakened buildings with compromised superstructures. I just asked to see them. If he has seen them it shouldn't be difficult to share the links as that is all I was asking.

Then the backtracking and the personal attacks....

[Captain Flack]

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[Packer]

Buy 2 and make them into 1 giant one now that you can push the walls out with your hands. 

[robz]

For a 7.7 magnitude earthquake, the other buildings were surprisingly robust. Compare, for example, with Turkey.

 

 

Date & Location	Magnitude	Deaths	Buildings Destroyed/Damaged	Notes
2004 – Indian Ocean (Sumatra)	9.1–9.3	~230,000 total	Millions affected; severe coastal destruction	Tsunami hit multiple countries; ~8,000 deaths in Thailand
2011 – Tōhoku, Japan	9.0	~19,300	>120,000 destroyed; ~278,000 damaged	Caused tsunami and Fukushima nuclear disaster
2010 – Haiti	7.0	~230,000–316,000	~250,000 homes & 30,000 commercial buildings	Devastated Port-au-Prince
2008 – Sichuan, China	7.9	~87,000	Millions of buildings destroyed or damaged	Massive destruction in mountainous areas
2001 – Gujarat, India	7.7	~20,000	>400,000 homes destroyed or damaged	Severely impacted Kutch region
1999 – İzmit, Turkey	7.4	~17,840	Tens of thousands of buildings collapsed	Widespread devastation in northwestern Turkey
2024 – Myanmar (Sagaing)	7.7	~1,600+ (total)	Significant infrastructure damage in Myanmar	Felt across Southeast Asia; at least 17 killed in Thailand
2024 – Thailand (impact)	7.7 (Myanmar)	17+?	Several buildings damaged; 30-story building collapsed in Bangkok	Myanmar quake caused damage in Thailand

 

[CallumWK]

2 minutes ago, robz said:

For a 7.7 magnitude earthquake, the other buildings were surprisingly robust. Compare, for example, with Turkey.

 

 

Date & Location	Magnitude	Deaths	Buildings Destroyed/Damaged	Notes
2004 – Indian Ocean (Sumatra)	9.1–9.3	~230,000 total	Millions affected; severe coastal destruction	Tsunami hit multiple countries; ~8,000 deaths in Thailand
2011 – Tōhoku, Japan	9.0	~19,300	>120,000 destroyed; ~278,000 damaged	Caused tsunami and Fukushima nuclear disaster
2010 – Haiti	7.0	~230,000–316,000	~250,000 homes & 30,000 commercial buildings	Devastated Port-au-Prince
2008 – Sichuan, China	7.9	~87,000	Millions of buildings destroyed or damaged	Massive destruction in mountainous areas
2001 – Gujarat, India	7.7	~20,000	>400,000 homes destroyed or damaged	Severely impacted Kutch region
1999 – İzmit, Turkey	7.4	~17,840	Tens of thousands of buildings collapsed	Widespread devastation in northwestern Turkey
2024 – Myanmar (Sagaing)	7.7	~1,600+ (total)	Significant infrastructure damage in Myanmar	Felt across Southeast Asia; at least 17 killed in Thailand
2024 – Thailand (impact)	7.7 (Myanmar)	17+?	Several buildings damaged; 30-story building collapsed in Bangkok	Myanmar quake caused damage in Thailand

 

 

Only that there wasn't a 7.7 magnitude earthquake in Thailand, it was 1200 km away in Myanmar

[ChipButty]

4 hours ago, RUSirius said:

 

No they won't unless it's Chinese, foreign capitulation. Thais refuse to take a loss. They're still on the hook for short sale. There's no tax deduction for losses. They'll sit on it until the condo inflates to such a degree the price is acceptable.

my joke went over your head, 

[bkk6060]

How many of the buildings that have structural damage will actually be reported?  The reinforcement of buildings is extremely expensive who is going to pay for it?   Would not be surprised if there are a number of problems in the months, years ahead for some of these high rises.

[Presnock]

13 hours ago, StandardIssue said:

Now that this earthquake has hit it appears that many of the Bangkok high rise buildings have been structurally compromised and no longer sound. 

 

The superstructure of the buildings has been weakened as evidenced by the many videos showing foundation cracks and structure damage throughout the buildings. As per the usual Thai response to such things, it is more than likely the structures will not be reinforced to original tolerances but the cracks and damage simply smoothed over and hidden. In the event of another earthquake, high wind event or other phenomenon some buildings may not survive and suffer the fate of the Chatuchak Park construction site.

 

Are you still considering a condo purchase after the earthquake and why, now that the structures are compromised.

 

Me? No!!

Even Chiang Mai, the tall condo building opposite central festival shows crack up every side and has been evacuated.  Do folks that buy those highrise condos get earthquake insurance? If so has nay company paid off on a claim/claims?  Just wondering seeing the cost and then the government condemns the bldg!

[Presnock]

20 minutes ago, CallumWK said:

 

Only that there wasn't a 7.7 magnitude earthquake in Thailand, it was 1200 km away in Myanmar

and yesterday a 5.5 wiped out the tall condo opposite central Festival in Chiang Mai!