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The Final Breakdown: Do you think Thailand will ever get Power-Delivery...right???


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Posted
41 minutes ago, kwonitoy said:

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When I lived in the country I had one of these with an automatic switch panel.

Power goes out, 10 second delay and then the genset started automatically and when the load stabilized the panel would switch over to the genset power. 

100 liter diesel fuel tank that would last for a week of continuous running

In 25 years of living in Thailand this was the best thing I ever bought 

 

Nice. I'll see you and raise you...

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Posted
7 hours ago, GammaGlobulin said:

Dear Folks,

The power supply here is TERRIBLE...as anyone might see.

 

 

epic butthurt thread... nice one !

 

I have a 10Kw genset... My power goes ok.

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Posted
35 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

 

Good morning, world, another day in Paradise.

 

Why is it that, even in paradise, we are able to find much to complain about?

 

One poses this question which most of us know the answer to....but...AI has this take on it:

 

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I am happy with almost any kind of tea, of course, as long as it is real tea....

 

 

 

Posted

The electric supply improved greatly last year , it did not go off

every time it rained or the wind blew , BUT I wish they would improve

the water supply , I can piss harder , and we have to have the pump

on all the time ,just to get it to 2 nd story and solar water heater on

the roof.

 

regards worgeordie

Posted
3 hours ago, blaze master said:

 Sure. How do I do that.

 

 

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Looking at these great images....

 

I can FEEL the cold.

 

So many great memories.....

 

Posted
3 hours ago, GammaGlobulin said:

 

So why can't I see the full resolution image and expand it by clicking...IDK

 

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Very nice image though....and I would have liked to see the full image....

 

 

easiest way to share large full resolution images is via google drive.  Forums and email generally restrict image sizes.

Posted
5 minutes ago, gamb00ler said:

easiest way to share large full resolution images is via google drive.  Forums and email generally restrict image sizes.

 

I have seen high-resolution images posted on TV, recently, mostly of great images of birds.

 

So then,....

 

HOW-TO.....???

 

Posted

No real problem with power supply,  maybe  once every 2 months it's off

for 1-2 hours. no big deal.

Turn on the 12v fans, open large Leo and play games on the smart phone.

after 4 Leo's power is usually back on.

Life is good. :thumbsup:

Posted
Just now, quake said:

No real problem with power supply maybe,  once every 2 months it's off

for 1-2 hours. no big deal.

Turn on the 12v fans, open large Leo and play games on the smart phone.

after 4 Leo's power is usually back on.

Life is good. :thumbsup:

 

You may be the exceptional LUCKY person, then....?

 

Posted
2 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said:

 

You may be the exceptional LUCKY person, then....?

 

 

Nah.

I just don't let trivial things bother me.

Also be prepared for the power outage, ( 12v Fans , beer,  cooler box )

 

 

 

Posted

A standard solar with battery installation still does not solve all the issues with power.

 

I still need small UPS boxes for my network gear and desktop.  They are able to switch to battery much faster than my solar setup.

 

When the grid fails the ATS (automatic transfer switch) on my solar installation does its job albeit a little too slowly.  Some of my 'smart' devices seem to have a problem with the brief period of unstable power.  I use 4 ESP32 relay controllers to operate our property entry gate and 3 garage doors.  One of the devices will sometimes go completely off the reservation and the garage door will open/close repeatedly until the circuit breaker is flipped to completely reset the device/motor controller.

 

Just yesterday a major component of PEA's equipment in our mubaan failed and the grid power oscillated off/on with a short cycle.  My 'smart' devices and solar installation did not deal with that very well.

 

Welcome to Thailand.... 555

Posted

In our village I don't know if anybody understands the supply lines. 

We had a 15 minute shower on Monday evening , the power went out.

But only for our house , the medical centre next door and a house about 8 doors down.

 

It was out for 2 hours before anybody came and fixed it.

5 minutes after the power come back on , a house 4 doors down lost their power.

So they had to disconnect the whole village for another 30 mins. before they sorted it out.

 

 

 

Posted
37 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said:

 

Looking at these great images....

 

I can FEEL the cold.

 

So many great memories.....

 

 

I was coming to my exit off the highway when the great one started. Now that was crazy. I was stuck in Kingston for a long time. Was there to see a friend at his college. Oddly enough the downtown core with all the bars and food places had their own power. So while devestation reined we were getting drunk at the local club and scarfing down pita pit after. 

 

https://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/ice-storm-1998

 

 

Posted
2 minutes ago, NE1 said:

In our village I don't know if anybody understands the supply lines. 

We had a 15 minute shower on Monday evening , the power went out.

But only for our house , the medical centre next door and a house about 8 doors down.

 

It was out for 2 hours before anybody came and fixed it.

5 minutes after the power come back on , a house 4 doors down lost their power.

So they had to disconnect the whole village for another 30 mins. before they sorted it out.

 

 

 

 

Sounds like whack a mole. 

Posted
19 minutes ago, blaze master said:

devestation reined

 

Are you sure?

Or, 

devastation reigned?

 

Rain

Reign

Rein

 

All three, I find confusing.

 

Anyway, this is the way we wrote it at McGill, when, in Quebec City, conflagration reigned during that student uprising in the 70s, when the youngsters set the city alight....

It was BEAUTIFUL....

 

 

 

Posted
17 minutes ago, blaze master said:

 

 

 

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Very nice.

But, I wish I could get the FULL image, and enlarge it to cover the entire surface of my monitor.

 

 

Posted
13 hours ago, GammaGlobulin said:

The power deliver here in Thailand is EXTREMELY unstable.

 

My power went off last night because a tree went down in a wind storm and took down an entire concrete poll (happens often). Very hard to protect against this because of all the tall trees throughout the mountain which are impractical to cut down and would be ugly anyways. 

 

They always come out and fix it regardless of time of day which I'm very impressed with.

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Posted
5 hours ago, gamb00ler said:

standard solar with battery installation still does not solve all the issues with power.

 

I still need small UPS boxes for my network gear and desktop.  They are able to switch to battery much faster than my solar setup.

Whereas my solar copes perfectly with switching between grid/solar/battery.

Not that it chooses grid much.

If you have an ATS, your solar isn't standard, the inverter does the switching for standard installs.

Posted
16 hours ago, GammaGlobulin said:

Dear Folks,

 

NO.

NOT....

 

Thailand LOVES to have it the way it is.

 

Why improve what IS NOT BROKEN?

 

The power supply here is TERRIBLE...as anyone might see.

 

And, DO THEY JUST LOVE IT....???????

 

Is this a total JOKE on the populace?

 

They say...when the power fails, or is unstable, that....

 

THe reason for power instability is due to ...

 

TREES.....

 

Is that right....????????

 

Then, why not just cut down all the trees...BABY...

 

 

 

RIGHT.....

 

The reason the power fails, here is due to TREES....

 

What a JOKE.

wHAT A JOKE....

 

HAHA.

 

Hope you get the joke, because....I DO NOT....anyway....

 

 

Are you enjoying the STABILITY of the Power Delivery in Thailand....SO FAR....??????/

 

Sure...

 

It is a TOTAL JOKE.....

 

But....

 

 

Do we care?????

 

And, why is stable power useful, anyway, for improving the well-being of society and the economy....

 

The Powers That Be do NOT care....for sure....


They think that deliver of stable power is just a JOKE....

 

RIGHT????

 

yEAH....

 

 

 

Such a GD ....JOKE....

 

Right?

 

Things will NEVER CHANGE around here....and....

 

This is the way they LIKE it....

 

RIGHT?

 

haha

 

haha

 

wE WILL be dead before they get things working right, around here....

 

Right?

 

WHAT A JOKE.....!!!!

 

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When they can't even get the POWER right, around here....it gives us....

 

a NERVOUS BREAKDOWN....Every time....

 

This is NO LIE, folks....

 

EVERYBODY needs to go SOLAR.....because.....

 

They will NEVER give you stable power....

 

 

I cannot see any joke here but someone who got a lot of problems.

Probably Thailand is not the right country for him.

Posted
3 hours ago, NorthernRyland said:

They always come out and fix it regardless of time of day which I'm very impressed with.

 

Yes  they do tend to get things fixed quickly..I also note that the power cuts are less and less frequent as the years go by...when I first moved to Pattaya  there where especially during the rainy season almost a guaranteed power cut  every time it rained (daily)    much better now  as is the speed and price of internet.

Posted
3 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Whereas my solar copes perfectly with switching between grid/solar/battery.

Not that it chooses grid much.

If you have an ATS, your solar isn't standard, the inverter does the switching for standard installs.

Are you using any ESP32 relay controllers?  Those boards are the source of all my problems with switching from grid to battery and back.  They seem very sensitive to power fluctuations.  They are also the reason I need a UPS for my network gear.  Many days our house will get several really short grid failures and often my network and/or relay controllers will re-boot.  When multiple links in a communication link are re-started sometimes the process doesn't succeed due to timing issues.  If my network gear survives the multiple power glitches without re-booting, then the comm. link gets re-established 100% of the time.  The UPS for the network gear is small and cheap and has performed perfectly so far.

 

I think the main issues is the ESP32 software is poorly done and has little resilience for such situations.

Posted
4 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Whereas my solar copes perfectly with switching between grid/solar/battery.

Not that it chooses grid much.

If you have an ATS, your solar isn't standard, the inverter does the switching for standard installs.

Can you export to the grid from your inverter?  Did you have a PEA inspection?

 

I think I read that the ATS serves to completely isolate my installation from the grid when the grid fails.

Posted
24 minutes ago, gamb00ler said:

Are you using any ESP32 relay controllers?  Those boards are the source of all my problems with switching from grid to battery and back.  They seem very sensitive to power fluctuations.  They are also the reason I need a UPS for my network gear.  Many days our house will get several really short grid failures and often my network and/or relay controllers will re-boot.  When multiple links in a communication link are re-started sometimes the process doesn't succeed due to timing issues.  If my network gear survives the multiple power glitches without re-booting, then the comm. link gets re-established 100% of the time.  The UPS for the network gear is small and cheap and has performed perfectly so far.

 

I think the main issues is the ESP32 software is poorly done and has little resilience for such situations.

No, my inverter doesn't feed the grid, it only takes when no battery and no solar.

Posted
16 hours ago, GammaGlobulin said:
17 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

Your great USA...

 

179,053,397 county-level power outage records with a 15-minute interval across 3,022 US counties between 2014-2023

 

Thats approximately 54,000 power outages each day of 15mins or more on 'county-level' across the USA.

 

 

https://arxiv.org/abs/2408.15882

 

 

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I never experienced  such a thing.

 

You're a fool...  You have complained about Thailand's power grid...  you draw parallels of comparison with "the great USA"....

 

I've provided factual proof of studies carried out by a reputable establishment - Cornell University...  that the USA suffers over 50,000 (county level) outages per day - which immediately distinguishes the rubbish you are attempting to flame Thailand with... 

 

You dismissed factual information with a passive comment "I never experienced  such a thing" because it disproves your agenda... 

 

... and to think in other threads you've bleated on about your intelligence, when I've yet to see anything other that mediocrity and this thread proves just that.

 

 

Another perfect example of why I usually skip over your threads.

 

 

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Posted
18 hours ago, GammaGlobulin said:

My best advice to anyone planning to move to Thailand is this:

 

Invest in SOLAR POWER, and plan on living OFF-GRID.

 

The power deliver here in Thailand is EXTREMELY unstable.

 

Therefore, if you plan to move to Thailand, then please plan on this.

 

SOLAR in Thailand is really the ONLY WAY to go.

 

The locals in Thailand actually ENJOY frequent power outages...and....

 

When the power returns....

 

YOU CAN hear the locals CHEER with delight!!!!!

 

If this is your thing, and if you enjoy CHEERING the return of power....then no need to have your own Solar.

 

The power supply here is a complete JOKE....mostly...due to....

 

TREES.

 

They always point to the many trees here, as the principle reason that the power fails, so often.

 

But, is this just a JOKE???

 

Who knows.

 

If you believe what they are feeding you...

 

The power here, is very unstable.

 

Come here and see for yourselves.....

 

 

I've been living in Northern Bangkok  since 2002, and in my experience power to our house is stable and very rarely goes out.  Any outages any normally are. restored in a few minutes, and very rarely over an hour.

 

Overall, much better than my home country!  If you live in Nahkon Nowhere, your mileage may vary.

Posted
13 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

I don't think he drinks or consumes...    The Op is WWACFC (writing while a complete fruit cake)..:whistling:

Why insult fruitcakes?   At least they are useful unlike the OP.

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