1 hour ago, Don Giovanni said:

I don't lie.

The biggest lie ever since even your so called ID, place of residence and every tale you tell are all blatant lies you liar

2 minutes ago, rough diamond said:

The biggest lie ever since even your so called ID, place of residence and every tale you tell are all blatant lies you liar

....that's an outright lie!

 

The Don.

Just now, Don Giovanni said:

....that's an outright lie!

 

The Don.

Thats another one. 

Just now, rough diamond said:

Thats another one. 

Why are you so rough around the edges?

 

The Don.

3 hours ago, Don Giovanni said:

So why, over the decades I've been visiting Thailand, do many taxis not have belt buckles available in the backseats?

 

they are not even under the seat - they are completely absent.

 

The Don.

More than likely, just as the driver of a motorcycle only needs to wear a helmet. Maybe it is only the driver or front seat passengers. There are no seat belts in Tuk-tuks or beds of trucks either.

1 hour ago, DualSportBiker said:

Do you care if your corpse bounces around and injures/kills another passenger in the car?

 

I cannot recall the last time I had a passenger in the car with me.

Told the wife for her first few months driving a car to wear a seatbelt always as will stop her going through the windscreen and save her pretty face ending up on the road. 

Seems to have worked as she wears it all the time now .

When you have dealt with as many collisions as I did in my former career and watched non-seat belt wearers die , you don’t need any convincing to make you and your passengers wear seat belts.

 

for all the know-alls whinging about fire, drowning etc, these sort of incidents are very rare and account in most countries for less than 5% of collisions. You stand  a much better chance of survival and escape if you are wearing your belt when it collides and catches fire or enters the water.

1 hour ago, Ralf001 said:

 

I cannot recall the last time I had a passenger in the car with me.

Lonely at the top, innit Ralf?....

 

The Don.

7 hours ago, Don Giovanni said:

Do Thais just not like them?

Are they averse to wearing them?

 

Does putting your seat belt on in Thailand as a passenger make the driver lose face by insinuating that he/she may have an accident, and therefore isn't capable enough behind the wheel?

 

I've even heard stories of Thais cutting the seat belt buckles off in a new car as they believe that something supernatural will protect them anyway, so why bother?...

 

I also know plenty of Thais who never wear their seat belts, even when driving home drunk...

 

The Don.

They haven't worked out what they are for yet and no one has shown them how to use them.

6 hours ago, hotsun said:

Did you see that thread of the russians in phuket who flipped their car and were dancing around it? Id say the seatbelt is the most valuable part of the vehicle when youre in thailand

Yep, and came out unscathed.

Russians don’t wear sissy seatbelts either.

just proved my point

7 hours ago, Don Giovanni said:

Do Thais just not like them?

Are they averse to wearing them?

 

Does putting your seat belt on in Thailand as a passenger make the driver lose face by insinuating that he/she may have an accident, and therefore isn't capable enough behind the wheel?

 

I've even heard stories of Thais cutting the seat belt buckles off in a new car as they believe that something supernatural will protect them anyway, so why bother?...

 

I also know plenty of Thais who never wear their seat belts, even when driving home drunk...

 

The Don.

Of course Thai use it. Same as others in other countries.

 

5 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

Of course Thai use it. Same as others in other countries.

 

My taxi driver didn't use his the other day and he got fined 500 baht for it..

 

The Don.

8 minutes ago, Don Giovanni said:

My taxi driver didn't use his the other day and he got fined 500 baht for it..

 

The Don.

Same in other countries🥱

It is difficult to understand the thinking behind not wearing a seat belt or wearing a crash helmet. In fact, when talking with those bereft of responsibility or a disregard for the law - in that order, I refer to SAFETY belts and SAFETY helmets.

 

A few years ago I became partly responsible for two little girls 5 and 3 years old as their mother was in prison for drug offenses. My girlfriend didn't hitherto wear her safety belt until I insisted she did.

 

The first time the children were in the car (I was the Passenger) the older child wanted to sit on my lap. I said that if she did she would need the safety belt on. It wasn't easy because it had to be round us both!! I said she will have to sit in the back and I will show her and the younger one how to put he belt on. No problems at all with this arrangement.

 

Two days later, in the car again and the two children automatically got in the back and fastened their belts with no prompting.

 

It really isn't that difficult with proper encouragement to introduce basic safety skills, even to young children. Hopefully, they then grow up to be responsible adults!

 

I have no story after that as I left my girlfriend as she was a compulsive Gambler!

9 hours ago, quake said:

Everyone has a seatbelt on in my car.

Or they can get out.

Never been a problem with Thais on this issue traveling in my car.

 

My Thai sister-in-law gets in the back of the car and buckles her seat belt knowing that I wont move unless she does. My wife (her sister) is already in  the front passenger seat buckled up.

 

Once moving. I watch my SIL in the rear view mirror as she surreptitiously unclips her seat belt thinking I wont notice.

 

I pull in and park on the shoulder and say to my wife "Seat belt warning" pointing at the dashboard, (usually the parking brake warning light since there is no visual warning for rear seat)....and make a  show of checking my wife's seat belt until hearing a 'click' from the rear seat. At which point I release the parking brake and carry on driving. 😏

 

In retaliation, if my wife is driving and the SIL is in the front passenger seat, she never wears her seat belt although  my wife always wears hers. 

 

In contrast, a builder doing a job in our house asked for a lift. Climbed in the back seat, located the seat belt anchor and clipped up. I said (through my wife) "That is the first time ever that a Thai  has got in my car and secured their seat belt without being told" He then told us that, a  few months previously he had been driving his twin-cab pickup on a good road, with thick trees on both sides. The grade was slightly uphill, road dry with sunshine and approaching a blind sweeping bend to the right. Without warning, an SUV at speed came around the bend sliding into my man's lane and collided head on. He estimated the impact to be around 120 kph. His airbags blew, the windshield shattered he 'came to' pickup hard against the verge metal barrier. His first thought was for his wife but he could not see her as her seat back had folded forward. It transpired that their daughter with infant son on her lap (no seat belt) had been sitting behind her mother and had been thrown forward, by the impact, into the front passenger seat back breaking the locks and folding it flat. She then exited the vehicle through the windshield into the windshield of the SUV killed instantly along with infant.

 

Lifting the back of his wife's seat he found her, a petite woman, jack-knifed into the footwell, bruised but otherwise uninjured. She had not been wearing her seatbelt.

 

The driver of the SUV had also been un-belted and had been thrown through his  windshield and killed.

 

My builder said he learned that day that seat-belts can save lives and always wears one when in a vehicle and has taught his family members the value of 'buckling up'

6 hours ago, Ralf001 said:

 

I cannot recall the last time I had a passenger in the car with me.

Understood, defs your decision in that situation. Would you were you with passengers? It would be reassuring to know you take others' safety to heart...

What a tragic way to learn a simple lesson. He needs to tell that story to a camera and have an influencer post it. You would be doing Thailand a huge favour were you able to get that done. You can IM me his number and I will see what I can do as this topic is one I lose sleep over...

 

34 minutes ago, PETERTHEEATER said:

My Thai sister-in-law gets in the back of the car and buckles her seat belt knowing that I wont move unless she does. My wife (her sister) is already in  the front passenger seat buckled up.

 

Once moving. I watch my SIL in the rear view mirror as she surreptitiously unclips her seat belt thinking I wont notice.

 

I pull in and park on the shoulder and say to my wife "Seat belt warning" pointing at the dashboard, (usually the parking brake warning light since there is no visual warning for rear seat)....and make a  show of checking my wife's seat belt until hearing a 'click' from the rear seat. At which point I release the parking brake and carry on driving. 😏

 

In retaliation, if my wife is driving and the SIL is in the front passenger seat, she never wears her seat belt although  my wife always wears hers. 

 

In contrast, a builder doing a job in our house asked for a lift. Climbed in the back seat, located the seat belt anchor and clipped up. I said (through my wife) "That is the first time ever that a Thai  has got in my car and secured their seat belt without being told" He then told us that, a  few months previously he had been driving his twin-cab pickup on a good road, with thick trees on both sides. The grade was slightly uphill, road dry with sunshine and approaching a blind sweeping bend to the right. Without warning, an SUV at speed came around the bend sliding into my man's lane and collided head on. He estimated the impact to be around 120 kph. His airbags blew, the windshield shattered he 'came to' pickup hard against the verge metal barrier. His first thought was for his wife but he could not see her as her seat back had folded forward. It transpired that their daughter with infant son on her lap (no seat belt) had been sitting behind her mother and had been thrown forward, by the impact, into the front passenger seat back breaking the locks and folding it flat. She then exited the vehicle through the windshield into the windshield of the SUV killed instantly along with infant.

 

Lifting the back of his wife's seat he found her, a petite woman, jack-knifed into the footwell, bruised but otherwise uninjured. She had not been wearing her seatbelt.

 

The driver of the SUV had also been un-belted and had been thrown through his  windshield and killed.

 

My builder said he learned that day that seat-belts can save lives and always wears one when in a vehicle and has taught his family members the value of 'buckling up'