Russell Brand criminally charged with rape...

[cdemundo]

He was funny comedian, he was very quick witted and reminded me of Robin Williams in the way he could take off on a verbal riff at any time.

Of course his flamboyant clothes and hair style are off-putting to a lot of the elderly fuddy-duddies (gosh, can I say fuddy-duddy on AN?, can I say gosh?, oh my) who have taken a dislike to him.

 

Sounds like the CPS doesn't charge unless they are very confident of conviction so he will no doubt have a tough time at trial.

Sounds like he behaved criminally and hate to see famous and prominent people get away with that.

 

 

 

[Harrisfan]

Creepy eyes

Creepy body language

 

I believe the women

[IvorBiggun2]

11 hours ago, FriscoKid said:

It’s going to be much harder for him

 

Isn't he in enough trouble as it is???????                                

[metisdead]

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[proton]

11 hours ago, Cameroni said:

The universe always keeps score. Call it karma, divine justice or whatever you like. Nobody escapes.

 

What you reap you will sow.

 

Not this old karma nonsense again, it's a myth. What karma did Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot get? they all died at home never punished for anything after collectively being responsible for about 100 million deaths, the Universe must have forgotten about them

[Chomper Higgot]

1 hour ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

 

 

He is being sent for trial at Westminster Magistrates Court; in the UK we do not have a jury in a Magistrates court. However, his case could be sent on by the Magistrates court  to a Crown court, where a jury would hear the evidence and decide.

 

 

 

 

He’s being arraigned at Westminster Magistrates Court.

 

 

His trial will be in a Crown Court:

 

https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/JCO/Documents/Protocols/listing_crown_court_manual_050705.pdf

 

 

 

[Harrisfan]

8 minutes ago, proton said:

 

Not this old karma nonsense again, it's a myth. What karma did Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot get? they all died at home never punished for anything after collectively being responsible for about 100 million deaths, the Universe must have forgotten about them

Putin too. 

[Digitalbanana]

11 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

12 hours ago, Cameroni said:

What you reap you will sow

Good grief.  You reap what you sow!

I think @Cameroni was correct as everything seems arse about face on this forums opinions these days.

[James105]

1 hour ago, cdemundo said:

He was funny comedian, he was very quick witted and reminded me of Robin Williams in the way he could take off on a verbal riff at any time.

Of course his flamboyant clothes and hair style are off-putting to a lot of the elderly fuddy-duddies (gosh, can I say fuddy-duddy on AN?, can I say gosh?, oh my) who have taken a dislike to him.

 

Sounds like the CPS doesn't charge unless they are very confident of conviction so he will no doubt have a tough time at trial.

Sounds like he behaved criminally and hate to see famous and prominent people get away with that.

 

 

Maybe he did behave criminally.  Maybe he didn't.  That's for the court to decide.  It bothers me somewhat that during the past 20 years since these alleged offenses occurred that not a peep was heard from these accusers when he held and espoused the "right" opinions.  It's only since he ventured into expressing the "wrong" opinions about the establishment that these seem to have come to light.  

[Cameroni]

58 minutes ago, proton said:

 

Not this old karma nonsense again, it's a myth. What karma did Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot get? they all died at home never punished for anything after collectively being responsible for about 100 million deaths, the Universe must have forgotten about them

 

Mao?

 

" It became a state secret that he suffered from multiple lung and heart ailments during his later years.[226] There are unconfirmed reports that he possibly had Parkinson's disease[227][228] in addition to amyotrophic lateral sclerosis (ALS), also known as Lou Gehrig's disease.[229] He suffered two major heart attacks, one in March and another in late June, then a third on 2 September, rendering him an invalid."

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Private_Life_of_Chairman_Mao

 

Karma, or divine justice, is very real. Nobody escapes it. You will reap what you sowed. This is the law of the universe.

 

Even in his lifetime Mao was viewed with disgust by those close to him, if you read "The Private Life of Chairman Mao" by his personal physician you will see that even those closest to him lost respect for Mao.

 

The universe keeps score. You will reap what you sowed.

 

If Russel Brand looks in the mirror, he knows he is telling lies, and he DID rape those women.

 

Though "oral rape" is of course a bit ludicrous, he surely did truly rape those women. But let the trial confirm it.

[Harrisfan]

1 minute ago, Cameroni said:

Karma, or divine justice, is very real. Nobody escapes it. You will reap what you sowed. This is the law of the universe.

I should be a billionaire then

[GanDoonToonPet]

1 hour ago, cdemundo said:

Sounds like the CPS doesn't charge unless they are very confident of conviction so he will no doubt have a tough time at trial.

Sounds like he behaved criminally and hate to see famous and prominent people get away with that

 

All because 'she said'

 

Quote

Andrew Malkinson (born 23 January 1966) is a British man who was wrongfully convicted and jailed in 2004 for the rape of a 33-year-old woman in Salford, Greater Manchester. He was released from prison in 2020 after serving 17 years, still maintaining his innocence, and his conviction was finally quashed by the Court of Appeal in 2023 after DNA evidence proved he was not the attacker.

 

Malkinson was identified by the victim in an identity parade. Several key details did not match the description of the perpetrator: for example, she described the attacker as being three inches (7.5 cm) shorter than Malkinson, with a hairless chest, and no tattoos. Malkinson had chest hair and prominent tattoos on his forearms. She also said the attacker would have a "deep scratch" to his face, which Malkinson did not.

 

There was no DNA evidence linking him to the crime at the time.

 

Malkinson could have been released after 6½ years but was not due to his maintaining his innocence. He was released in 2020 for good behaviour.

 

Wrongful conviction of Andrew Malkinson

[JackGats]

Everyone knows such charges are bogus if rape is still to mean what it should mean and not be defined as "what the woman says". Still, the charade must go on.

[spidermike007]

The thing that truly astounds me about guys like Brand is that when you're rich and you're famous and good looking on top of that, you can pretty much have whoever you want. Women are literally lining up to get naked for you and to provide sexual favors, so why on earth would a man push himself on someone who didn't want him, when they're in that position?

 

That's the kind of psychologically bent mind I simply cannot comprehend or understand on any level, and I think that a man who engages in sexual assault or rape should be put to death. Punishment and jail time is not enough, a death sentence is more appropriate and it should be carried out quickly. The world simply has no use for them once they cross that line. 

 

 

[Cameroni]

2 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

The thing that truly astounds me about guys like Brand is that when you're rich and you're famous and good looking on top of that, you can pretty much have whoever you want. Women are literally lining up to get naked for you and to provide sexual favors, so why on earth would a man push himself on someone who didn't want him, when they're in that position?

 

That's precisely why he would rape, isn't it, because he is so used to women lining up and getting naked to bang him, he cannot take "no" seriously. He is convinced he is truly irresistible and she really wants it. If you are always shown that women desire you and want you, when a woman does not, it becomes a far more interesting challenge. So he wants the one who does not consent far more than those who line up naked. You always want what you cannot have.

[Harrisfan]

7 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

The thing that truly astounds me about guys like Brand is that when you're rich and you're famous and good looking on top of that, you can pretty much have whoever you want. Women are literally lining up to get naked for you and to provide sexual favors, so why on earth would a man push himself on someone who didn't want him, when they're in that position?

 

That's the kind of psychologically bent mind I simply cannot comprehend or understand on any level, and I think that a man who engages in sexual assault or rape should be put to death. Punishment and jail time is not enough, a death sentence is more appropriate and it should be carried out quickly. The world simply has no use for them once they cross that line. 

 

 

He's ugly but its a power game. Rape is ultimate power over a woman. I'm a celeb, you don't want it, here you got it anyway. 

 

The guy was always creepy.

[IvorBiggun2]

11 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

The thing that truly astounds me about guys like Brand is that when you're rich and you're famous and good looking on top of that, you can pretty much have whoever you want.

 

'Brand' good looking'? You're havin a larf.

[mikeymike100]

13 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

He's guilty?

Wouldn't that determination be up to a judge and jury???? Due process??

[FriscoKid]

20 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

The thing that truly astounds me about guys like Brand is that when you're rich and you're famous and good looking on top of that, you can pretty much have whoever you want. Women are literally lining up to get naked for you and to provide sexual favors, so why on earth would a man push himself on someone who didn't want him, when they're in that position?

 

That's the kind of psychologically bent mind I simply cannot comprehend or understand on any level, and I think that a man who engages in sexual assault or rape should be put to death. Punishment and jail time is not enough, a death sentence is more appropriate and it should be carried out quickly. The world simply has no use for them once they cross that line. 

 

Rejection and mistreatment are also recognized forms of sexual deviance. For some men, it can be a major turn on. Many are aroused by sexually penetrating women in ways that cause them pain and by witnessing that pain. Others are turned on when a woman says no you can’t do that to me while they continue doing it anyway. The list goes on, but you get the idea. For some men, consensual sex filled with passion is seen as boring and not enough to satisfy them.

 

Good chance he's going be found guilty of at least one of the five charges, if not more, all of which are based on sexual misconduct. The UK government doesn't take criminal offenses like these lightly and they won't charge somebody with a crime like this, and in a high profile case with the allegations dating back 20 years, unless the evidence is overwhelmingly compelling. I would say that there's likely an 80% chance that the prosecution will be able to prove the allegations and find him guilty. 

 

[mikeymike100]

1 hour ago, James105 said:

 

Maybe he did behave criminally.  Maybe he didn't.  That's for the court to decide.  It bothers me somewhat that during the past 20 years since these alleged offenses occurred that not a peep was heard from these accusers when he held and espoused the "right" opinions.  It's only since he ventured into expressing the "wrong" opinions about the establishment that these seem to have come to light.  

I detest the guy, I think he is a creep, but I also find that it very odd that these alleged offenses happened a long time ago, in cases over 20 years. 1999-2005.

Why didnt these women complain then? There won't be any physical evidence, DNA etc just years old accounts, pretty sure his defense will hammer this!

Are the women looking for a payday, now he is 'famous'????

[Stiddle Mump]

Who has he upset. 

 

Big Pharma; don't think so. My money is on the bankers.

[Harrisfan]

25 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Who has he upset. 

 

Big Pharma; don't think so. My money is on the bankers.

He upset the women he groped and raped.

[Stiddle Mump]

1 minute ago, Harrisfan said:

He upset the women he groped and raped.

You could be right.

 

Seems fishy to me.

[Packer]

13 hours ago, Packer said:

Those that magically appear decades later can prove they were raped and didn't have consensual sex?

 

This hasn't been answered. How are the accusers going to prove that they were raped and didn't have consensual sex??

[Harrisfan]

6 minutes ago, Packer said:

 

This hasn't been answered. How are the accusers going to prove that they were raped and didn't have consensual sex??

By telling a believable story.

[mikeymike100]

12 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

He upset the women he groped and raped.

Surely you mean 'allegedly' groped and raped???

[Harrisfan]

Just now, mikeymike100 said:

Surely you mean 'allegedly' groped and raped???

By the alleged sleazebag

[Packer]

10 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

By telling a believable story.

 

Stories alone from 20+ years ago are not evidence of rape. 

[mikeymike100]

14 hours ago, Packer said:

Those that magically appear decades later can prove they were raped and didn't have consensual sex?

 

 

That's the 'kicker'? No they can't, as there will be no physical evidence like DNA, no forensic evidence after 20 years, it will be a he said she said?

After 20 years memory gets shaky, even if they can pin him at a location where the woman was, and even if they had sex, he will say consensual.

The prosecution has to prove, he is guilty, beyond reasonable doubt.

 

[Harrisfan]

Just now, Packer said:

 

Stories alone from 20+ years ago are not evidence of rape. 

So you believe this creep? I don't.