BBC Faces Backlash Over Use of Term ‘Revert’ in Islam Coverage

[CG1 Blue]

3 hours ago, Somjot said:

This is a horrible thing but it has nothing to do with Islam. It was custom with some tribes in Northern Africa who brought this barbaric mutilation into the religion. Same as the Christmas tree was somehow brought into Christianity.

It is safe to say that Jesus never saw one.

So Christians embraced the Christmas tree and Muslims embraced FGM. Says a lot. 

[rough diamond]

1 hour ago, KannikaP said:

I know a licence is not needed, but without a VPN? How do you do that please?

 http://www.freeintertv.com/view/id-2328

[brewsterbudgen]

3 hours ago, Jonnapat said:

The BBC used to be one of the most respected platforms in the world for impartial, unbiased news  reporting .

Unfortunately Boris Johnson appointed 4 known Tory supporters to the board during his disastrous Premiership. 

Nowadays all you get is non stop ,ferocious attacks on the government of the day by Chris Mason and his lackeys.

Really sad.

The "British Broadcasting Conservatives".  A case in point is Question Time.  It used to be a good balanced watch with David Dimbleby but the awful Fiona Bruce continually interrupts everyone except Tories and Reform panellists.

[proton]

5 hours ago, Somjot said:

 

As does almost every main teligion

 

 

Only when the first wife agrees to the second and both of them agree to the Third and so on, if they don't, there will be no further marriages. Plus they have to be treated exactly the same.

However, I am not saying it does not happen but it is not really common.

 

 

This is a horrible thing but it has nothing to do with Islam. It was custom with some tribes in Northern Africa who brought this barbaric mutilation into the religion. Same as the Christmas tree was somehow brought into Christianity.

It is safe to say that Jesus never saw one.

 

 

 

Again, this unfortunately happens but not very often, as a family must be extremely desperate to push their own daughter in such a marriage

 

 

Well, I wouldn't want to do that either but a few converted Muslim women to whom I have talked to, told me that they actually feel relief and more freedom compared to living in the tyranny of Oppression by Western societies, where a woman is mainly judged by her looks, therefore she's expected to mutilate her body with expensive and risky surgeries, take hormones and paint fake sexual desire on her face.

A point of view, that I do not necessarily share, as I love pretty women but at least I respect it as a personal choice.

 

Yep having their clits cut off, forced to wear chains of fabric and in one Islamic country banned from talking to other women must be soooo 😁

[KannikaP]

1 hour ago, rough diamond said:

 http://www.freeintertv.com/view/id-2328

BBC News, BBC One and ITV ain't a lot.

[KannikaP]

9 hours ago, nauseus said:

 

Looks like it was deliberate. The revert word was used more than once, it seems.

 

The BBC knows better but it doesn't care. I think that is a worry.

The BBC Music presenters say VYNIL instead of VINYL. Another blunder! 555

[rough diamond]

25 minutes ago, KannikaP said:

BBC News, BBC One and ITV ain't a lot.

There are over 100 channels from all round the world.

You only asked me about BBC non VPN coverage..

 

[nauseus]

23 minutes ago, KannikaP said:

The BBC Music presenters say VYNIL instead of VINYL. Another blunder! 555

 

Yes. The BBC tradition of high editorial standards (deceased).

[KannikaP]

1 minute ago, rough diamond said:

There are over 100 channels from all round the world.

You only asked me about BBC non VPN coverage..

 

That's all, as a Brit, I would be interested in, not CNN, Fox, German, French, Chinese, Korean etc etc. 

For 80 quid I shall stick with Nord VPN

[proton]

The Buggering Broadcast Corporation abandoned aligning itself with the mainstream Britons years ago, as well as any support for it's values, history and religion. It's been using BCE and CE instead of BC and AD for a long time, more pandering to the heathen enemy at the gates

 

https://www.theway.co.uk/news/bbc-accused-of-political-correctness-over-ad-and-bc

[Evil Penevil]

 

8 hours ago, JonnyF said:

 

They also refer to Hamas as "Freedom Fighters".

 

 

Yes, it is disgusting the BBC does not refer to Hamas as terrorists.  Senior editors are clearly catering to militant Muslims.  The BBC's use of Hamas operatives as "journalists" in Gaza is also a telling signal.  Anti9semitism now runs deep at the BBC.

 

8 hours ago, JonnyF said:

They are a lost cause. 

 

It's tragic to think of the BBC as a lost cause. It was once the shining beacon of classic Western journalistic values, a standard by which all news organizations could be compared, including those in the U.S.  Now it's an example of what a news group SHOULDN'T be.

 

1 hour ago, proton said:

The Buggering Broadcast Corporation abandoned aligning itself with the mainstream Britons years ago, as well as any support for it's values, history and religion

 

Yes, it goes much deeper than mere left-leaning.  The BCC management and most of its journalists have fallen under the dark shadow of what's called Critical Race Theory in the U.S.  That's the belief that white people, and by extension the governments of white-majority countries, are inherently racist and supremacist.  Western history and culture, especially the former British Empire,  are rejected on that basis.  CRT presents a convenient excuse for hatred of Jews and Israel as they  are considered privileged and part of the "white" world.  This isn't the right thread for a lengthy description, but plenty of info on CRT is available on the Internet.

[JonnyF]

3 hours ago, proton said:

The Buggering Broadcast Corporation abandoned aligning itself with the mainstream Britons years ago, as well as any support for it's values, history and religion. It's been using BCE and CE instead of BC and AD for a long time, more pandering to the heathen enemy at the gates

 

https://www.theway.co.uk/news/bbc-accused-of-political-correctness-over-ad-and-bc

 

I only go to the BBC website to see how the left are twisting the news to fit their leftist Woke agenda.

 

Same as I very occasionally read The Guardian to see what the lefty trolls on here will be posting tomorrow. My infrequent (but amusing) visits makes me "one of their most valuable readers" apparently. Hence the constant begging for donations and imminent collapse.

 

The only place the propaganda seems to have worked is The UK. Everywhere else they have to use lawfare to keep right wing politicians out of power aka Le Pen. In the UK they use lawfare to silence or jail the indigenous population in order to facilitate the takeover. 

[Somjot]

6 hours ago, CG1 Blue said:

Muslims embraced FGM.

Says a lot. 

 

So did the Christians.

Women within Christian communities, including in Egypt, Kenya, Nigeria and Tanzania, do undergo FGM most of them being Coptic or Orthodox Christians but also Protestants and Catholics (in Sudan and Kenya).

A 2013 UNICEF report identified 55 % of Christian women in Niger had experienced it, against 2% of Muslim women.

In Europe the Skoptsy Christian sect practices FGM as part of redemption.

Does that also say a lot?

I, being a medic, despise it. It is a mutilation, has no health benefits but only risks including severe bleeding or infections which even might be lethal.

 

But I don't understand why this point is being brought up every time there is a discussion about Islam.

Christianity has had its own share of atrocities:

The mass murder of more than 130 million Native Americans, 2 world wars, the Holocaust, just to mention a few and if that is too much in the past, just compare the number of deaths from the conflicts in the last quarter century.

And we call them terrorists!

 

Religions do not kill innocents. People do.

[Somjot]

6 hours ago, proton said:

 

Yep having their clits cut off, forced to wear chains of fabric and in one Islamic country banned from talking to other women must be soooo 😁

 

Where is that? sounds interesting.

 

Because every time my now ex-wife had been talking to some of her fellow Thai countrywomen later we had a fight.

[Somjot]

11 hours ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

 

 

You have all the prerequisite qualifications to sail through a job interview at the BBC; go for it, you'll be in good company there 

 

 

I doubt that

look at the current mindset of people today.

The thread is about the backlash BBC faced because of referring to Muslim converts as reverts, because “The term “revert” is rooted in the belief held by some Muslims that every human is born into Islam and that conversion later in life“

So what? Christians believe that if you are not baptised you go to hell, which includes pretty much every person ever lived on this planet except Christians.

Some member called this a deliberate act of Islamic propaganda, which I doubt, as I assume that most people don't know the difference between a revert and convert.

He then made a few statements about the fate of women in Islam and all I did was providing a few explanations, while clearly not condoning to it.

And what was the reaction?

Three negative emojis and another three condescending comments.

People somehow lost the ability to understand the difference between explanation and justification.

Now to your job suggestion:

Western media in general is more or less following mainstream, where certain countries cannot be criticised, no matter which atrocities they commit, no matter for how long they do it and no matter how many human rights organisations plus the UN oppose them while others are continuously damned for atrocities committed in a single day.

And they developed their own language when it comes to reporting, where certain people are “murdered by terrorists” while others somehow “lost their lives” (NEWSPEAK)

Despite it is becoming more and more difficult, mostly because of the pressure from society, I still try it to only look at the facts and use my own brain to form my own opinion and not let others do the thinking for me.

Expressing that opinion which would have led to an interesting conversation in the past will today result in being put in the same pigeonhole as terrorists or being cancelled for THOUGHTCRIME.

I would not last a day.

 

[Somjot]

3 hours ago, Evil Penevil said:

The BBC's use of Hamas operatives as "journalists" in Gaza is also a telling signal.  Anti9semitism now runs deep at the BBC.

 

Really? 

 

Why do they not send their own independent journalists into Gaza?

 

So the world could finally see what is really going on there.

[proton]

3 hours ago, Somjot said:

 

Where is that? sounds interesting.

 

Because every time my now ex-wife had been talking to some of her fellow Thai countrywomen later we had a fight.

 

Afghanistan

[Eloquent pilgrim]

8 hours ago, Somjot said:

 

Really? 

 

Why do they not send their own independent journalists into Gaza?

 

So the world could finally see what is really going on there.

 

 

Independent journalists at the BBC, that’s an oxymoron if ever there was.

 

When the BBC did have journalists in Gaza, their own war correspondent, Jon Donnison, stood there and reported that the blast at the Al-Ahli Arab hospital was caused by an Israeli airstrike, and not, as it actually was, by a misfired rocket from the Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ) from within Gaza.

 

He is the same BBC correspondent who posted a photo of a young girl lying on a hospital bed with bloodied clothes, with the caption “Heartbreaking, Pain in #Gaza” …. when it later transpired that the photo of the young girl was actually taken in Syria.

 

Is this the BBC that you would like to send their own “independent” journalists to show the world what is going on there ? The BBC is institutionally antisemitic and has been for more than 30 years of my viewing; that you don’t know that means you have very little knowledge of their history of broadcasting, and almost certainly are not from the UK yourself. Do some proper research.

 

 

 

 

[Eloquent pilgrim]

9 hours ago, Somjot said:

while others are continuously damned for atrocities committed in a single day.

 

Is this a reference to 7th October 2023, and if not, would you kindly explain what you mean by it; thanks.

 

 

 

 

[Eloquent pilgrim]

18 hours ago, brewsterbudgen said:

The "British Broadcasting Conservatives".  A case in point is Question Time.  It used to be a good balanced watch with David Dimbleby but the awful Fiona Bruce continually interrupts everyone except Tories and Reform panellists.

 

 

Utter nonsense; the BBC fills the audience with left wing wokesters, and the panel with Labour supporters. You can't possible have watched the program

 

  

 

 

[brewsterbudgen]

18 minutes ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

 

 

Utter nonsense; the BBC fills the audience with left wing wokesters, and the panel with Labour supporters. You can't possible have watched the program

 

  

 

 

 

The BBC is run by Tories, so that's obviously not the case!  How many times has Reform had a panelist, and yet the Workers Party is rarely (ever?) represented.

[Somjot]

On 4/9/2025 at 1:09 AM, proton said:

 

Afghanistan

Sure?

They are not allowed to speak loudly in public. But I have not heard of any laws banning them from speaking to other women.

I am not condoning that. I was just wondering, Why you are so worried about Muslim women's rights or their clits, while at the same time you are condoning a war which indiscriminately kills 10s of thousands of them.

[Somjot]

On 4/9/2025 at 7:27 AM, Eloquent pilgrim said:

 

 

Independent journalists at the BBC, that’s an oxymoron if ever there was.

 

When the BBC did have journalists in Gaza, their own war correspondent, Jon Donnison, stood there and reported that the blast at the Al-Ahli Arab hospital was caused by an Israeli airstrike, and not, as it actually was, by a misfired rocket from the Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ) from within Gaza.

 

He is the same BBC correspondent who posted a photo of a young girl lying on a hospital bed with bloodied clothes, with the caption “Heartbreaking, Pain in #Gaza” …. when it later transpired that the photo of the young girl was actually taken in Syria.

 

Is this the BBC that you would like to send their own “independent” journalists to show the world what is going on there ? The BBC is institutionally antisemitic and has been for more than 30 years of my viewing; that you don’t know that means you have very little knowledge of their history of broadcasting, and almost certainly are not from the UK yourself. Do some proper research.

 

I don't think that a few wrong reports from one correspondent are enough to judge the whole BBC including all their correspondents nevertheless my comment was meant as a joke, as you had stated the BBC is using Hamas operatives as journalists and asked me, if "this is the BBC, that I would like to send their own journalists".

 

My question, why they would not send their own journalists into Gaza, was it order to point out, that the most moral army would not let any independent journalists in that area to independently report on their most moral mass murder of Muslims, mostly women and kids, no matter if I would like it or not. 

 

 

And please do not confuse Anti-Semitic with anti Israel or the criticism of the actions of Israel.

The term anti-Semitic is misused to frame every person criticising the current mass murder by the Israeli army as a racist.

Jews are semitic people and so are Arabs, So anti-Semitic would mean being anti Jews and anti Arabs. But today it seems as if some Jews have “occupied” this term.

Even if you translate it that way, being anti the actions of Israel is not the same as being anti every Jew, as there are thousands of Jews in and outside of Israel opposing those actions. How do you want to call them? Anti-Semitic semites?

 

[Somjot]

On 4/9/2025 at 8:03 AM, Eloquent pilgrim said:

 

Is this a reference to 7th October 2023?

 

Yes.

[Eloquent pilgrim]

On 4/8/2025 at 4:41 PM, Somjot said:

while others are continuously damned for atrocities committed in a single day.

 

 

You have subsequently confirmed that this comment was a reference to 7 October 2023. That you think the Palestinians responsible for this barbarism should not be continuously damned, is the most disgraceful apology for Islamic terrorism that I have seen on this forum.

 

On 7 October Palestinians, both Hamas, and civilians, slaughtered 260 young kids enjoying a music festival with machine guns and semi-automatic weapons; then, amongst the other atrocities they committed, they cut open the stomach of a pregnant woman while she was still alive, removed her unborn baby, beheaded it in front of her, and then beheaded her. And you don’t think they should be continuously damned for the most barbaric act of terrorism in modern history; contemptuous.

 

I have seen your previous comments, defending and deflecting from the Islamic Sharia practices of misogyny, FGM, prepubescent marriages etc; you are a typical far left pro-Islamist, and your pathetic disclaimer of “And please do not confuse Anti-Semitic with anti Israel or the criticism of the actions of Israel” might work on student forums, but not in the real world; antisemitism shines brightly through your veiled attempts of disguise. I have nothing but contempt for you. I will never forget 7 October, however much the likes of you want to. I stand with Israel. 🇮🇱